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Drivers To Be Subsidised To Give Up Cars For New Socialist Utopia

February 20, 2021

By Paul Homewood 

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 I have been warning for some time that the real objective of the greens is to take our cars away from us.

Forcing us to buy ridiculous electric cars, which are totally unsuitable for many drivers, road tolls, cycle lanes etc have nothing to do with saving the planet. It is all about reducing our personal freedom to go where we want, when we want and for whatever reason we want:

 

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Motorists are to be given up to £3,000 to replace their cars with greener forms of transport.

Drivers in built-up areas with the most polluting cars will receive public money to abandon their vehicle for ‘credits’.

These will be used on alternative modes of transport such as bicycles and electric scooters but will also work on congestion-easing forms like public transport, car clubs and taxis.

It is hoped that the move will reduce car dependency in major cities.

Motorists in the area who agree to have their car towed away for the duration of the trial will be given between £1,500 and £3,000 to spend on alternative transport.

The West Midlands scheme is being paid for as part of a £22million ‘future transport’ initiative funded by the government.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9281039/Drivers-offered-3-000-credit-cars-shift-greener-transport.html 

 

 

As we are increasingly becoming aware, the authorities have realised that there is simply not enough electrical generating nor transmission capacity to power our new electric car future. Hence the need to force cars off the road, if necessary by punitive road charges.

Of course, the rich and powerful will still retain their luxury cars.

The last few decades have witnessed a transformation in personal freedom, thanks to the motor car. We can, within reason, work where we want, instead of being tied to the local factory. We can shop where we want, instead of being stuck with the local Coop robdogs. We can go where we want, and do what we want, in our leisure time.

None of this was possible just a few decades ago. And now the socialist planners want to take it all away again.

This comment summed it up nicely:

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Unfortunately it is these 35 year old London vegans who are setting policy, against the interests of the vast majority of people in this country. Out of London, people live in the real world.

If we wanted to waste hours every day travelling by public transport or in ludicrous car shares, we would choose to do that. Some of us have no other choice anyway, but cars have given most people in this country a level of personal freedom unheard of in the past.

Don’t let the socialists take it away from us.

68 Comments leave one →
  1. Chaswarnertoo permalink
    February 20, 2021 10:03 pm

    I like my Alfa.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      February 21, 2021 1:03 pm

      Is that like Quorn or Tofu? 🙂

      • Chaswarnertoo permalink
        February 21, 2021 6:30 pm

        More like Boris, or Peter Parker…

  2. February 20, 2021 10:09 pm

    It’s in the Times too
    as I scanned I thought , I’ll buy a £500 car so I can scrap it collect a £3,000 voucher.
    Aren’t such schemes asking for corruption ?

    • sid permalink
      February 21, 2021 8:04 am

      Stew, and your wife owns two cars

    • February 21, 2021 3:20 pm

      Sure, but the government will hand out money till hell freezes because it can. I see no problem with the plan. I have four cars here in the USA. I’d have to replace them with a horse because it’s 10 miles to town, but hey, sacrifices must be made.

      What if you buy another car with the payoff for the first?

  3. markl permalink
    February 20, 2021 10:09 pm

    Slowly but surely the real reasons behind the AGW scare are coming to light. It’s not to control the weather, it’s to control the people.

    • Brian Jackson permalink
      February 21, 2021 10:21 am

      First thing to do to control the people is to take away their freedom of movement.

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        February 21, 2021 1:05 pm

        And Twitter and Facebook are taking away their freedom of thought/speech.

      • Ben Vorlich permalink
        February 21, 2021 2:40 pm

        The first step is to disarm them so they can’t fight back, a couple of madmen with guns give the opportunity, if you wait long enough, to make them surrender whatever they have willingly. Then you get them used used to having their freedoms taken, a pandemic will do the trick if you wait for it, even a marginally more deadly virus than normal winter flu.

        Saving the planet has been drummed into children for the last 40 years so the job is nearly done

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        February 21, 2021 4:21 pm

        Ben, it worries the hell out of me that in the UK many deaths – of usually older people – are being put down as caused by Covid even when the deceased had no history of the disease.
        Someone is benefitting by the enhanced stats for Covid death….

      • Ben Vorlich permalink
        February 21, 2021 8:12 pm

        Me too Harry, me too

    • February 21, 2021 9:38 pm

      Of course it is, we have a toatally stupid Governmment who hate the very People who pay their exccesice salaries which are never worth the money. Many of them are totally illiterate in any case, and few if any have decent documentation. For example, they want to have zero Carbon, but without carbon of any kind the green fields of england would soon fade AWAY to nothing!

  4. JimW permalink
    February 20, 2021 10:28 pm

    covid and CC are but two sides of the same coin. Control. Welcome to the new biotech fascist world, with a few billionaire elite, a cadre of useful well rewarded idiots and the peasantry. Unfortunately throughout human history it has been ever thus. We are returning to normal , what we regarded as ‘normal’ in the post WW2 years in the west was in fact very unusual. We have been privileged to live through it, I thought I might kick the bucket before it ended, but the pace of change is such that unless my wife and I ‘top ourselves’ we will live to see the dawn of the new/old order.

    • NeilC permalink
      February 21, 2021 7:24 am

      Totally agree. I have mentioned this on several posts on the telegraph comments on relevant articles and had quite a few “likes”.

      The Covid-19 situation proves what you say. The 2014/15 flu virus epidemic England & Wales peak was 3,521 weekly deaths, no lock-down or restrictions and the NHS coped. On Friday we went below that benchmark. Yesterday we were down to 3,078.

      https://www.weather-research.com/articles/uk-cov-2-update-no-logical-reason-for-lockdown-from-now

      There is absolutely NO logical reason we should be in lock-down or have any restrictions.

      AGW, as you say, is just another scam (lies, fraudulent science and no empirical evidence) to control the people.

  5. Susan Ewens permalink
    February 20, 2021 11:13 pm

    Will it be £3,000 per year or just a one-off payment?

  6. February 20, 2021 11:38 pm

    Socialists? WTF? They are not in charge in most countries. It’s the right wing fascists who are in charge and you need to see where the money is going.

    • NeilC permalink
      February 21, 2021 7:27 am

      I have never seen the difference between between left or right wing extremists. They both want complete control over the rest of the population..

    • Chaswarnertoo permalink
      February 21, 2021 8:34 am

      Your perception is skewed.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      February 21, 2021 10:09 am

      The difference between fascism and socialism is minimal and doesn’t matter as the means are identical – totalitarianism. The end will never be achieved as they are delusional Utopianism so under both we are stuck forever with totalitarianism – exactly as Orwell foresaw in 1984.

      • Gamecock permalink
        February 22, 2021 2:42 am

        True. The difference is in who owns the means of production. BOTH systems are unnatural, causing problems with compliance. Causing BOTH to become totalitarian.

  7. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    February 21, 2021 2:03 am

    Al Gore climbed into his plane then flew around the world to lecture people about how wrong it was to burn fossil fuels.
    Bill Gates climbs into his plane to fly round the word to lecture people how wrong it is to burn fossil fuels (and did he say turn off your computers and throw them away ?
    Read a book by candle light instead ?)
    My mayor has raised parking charges, aims to charge ‘old’ ICE vehicles at least £9 a day to visit/pass through the city centre.
    So now there is this bribe to dispose your your car.
    It appears that freedom of movment is not only taxed but heavily restricted too.
    The message is clear. Stay in, order your food which will be delivered. order your goods which will be delivered but don’t be concerned.
    Your thoughts and opinions will be delivered to you too.
    Welcome to New Normal.

    • Steve permalink
      February 21, 2021 9:18 am

      https://babylonbee.com/news/bill-gates-warns-of-the-sacrifices-well-have-to-make-live-from-his-650-million-dollar-super-yacht

      And in other news, a truck driver in England has been sacked for refusing to wear a mask when driving alone.

      • dave permalink
        February 21, 2021 9:57 am

        Not quite.

        He was sacked for not wearing his mask, when in his cab, on the premises of places to which he was delivering goods. Presumably some persons at these premises were nervous nellies. He lost a case for wrongful dismissal at the employment tribunal.

        He was NOT sacked for not wearing his mask while driving on the open road, (according to the report I saw.)

      • Steve permalink
        February 21, 2021 10:36 am

        My supermarket delivery drivers don’t wear a mask when they arrive outside in the open air. That hasn’t been made illegal yet, though I suspect that badge boy will be planning 10 year prison sentences for breathing soon.

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      February 21, 2021 5:26 pm

      OT … I used to have a ‘Douglas Dragonfly’ & a ‘Douglas Mk5’ , super machines.
      is that where your name comes from ?

      • Douglas Dragofly permalink
        February 22, 2021 1:22 am

        To 1 saveengergy – yes, I borrowed the name from that beautiful motorbike built in Kingswood near Bristol.
        I envy you sir, my steed was a Norton.

  8. Alan permalink
    February 21, 2021 4:28 am

    This is for a l[mited period, then you get your car back, after car family that commute to working on public transport anyway, or work from home will take this up as they get the cash and don’t have to change a thing for the duration of the trial.
    A very wasteful experiment, miving and storing cars, paying out cash. I am sure it will be a resounding success did I ring covid lockdown. Not so popular outside London and other big cities though.

  9. Alan permalink
    February 21, 2021 4:30 am

    Typo “during covid lockdown “

  10. ianprsy permalink
    February 21, 2021 7:53 am

    I had to laugh at Prince Charles’ virtue signaling yesterday. He turned up at the hospital in a Tesla (what else?), followed by (at least one) Range Rover with his security detail. Aren’t we supposed to notice?

    Further to Douglas Dragonfly’s comment above, I’m sick of hearing Bill Gates on the radio, plugging his book, a review of which I’ve read in WUWT. He recognises the issue and the impossibility of decarbonsing economically, if even technically possible, but is so stuck on the “carbon” myth that he thinks the only answer is to crusade to destroy the fossil fuel industry.

    I then read Gordon (I heart diesel) Brown’s eulogy in, where else, the Guardian. His conclusion was that “… real power countries can wield to create a better world is not the power they can exercise OVER others but the power they can exercise WITH others.” Reads like he’s getting ready for the Great Reset.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      February 21, 2021 1:49 pm

      I wondered whether his Tesla would have got him back to Highgrove without a recharge.

  11. Up2snuff permalink
    February 21, 2021 8:48 am

    Paul: “but cars have given most people in this country a level of personal freedom unheard of in the past”

    Paul, not just personal freedom but national affluence!

    What many people – who push the AGW/CC anti-transport thing – do not realise is that the present prosperity of the UK (Pandemic cost & debt apart) has been built on the transport industries. First, shipping in all its forms, then rail, then the motor car, bicycle and the aeroplane. All those industries have created jobs directly and indirectly in the UK; in maintenance, insurance, banking, trading and retailing and so on.

    If we are going to recover economically as a nation from the pandemic – and help the rest of the world to do the same – we will need all those traditional industries and more.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      February 21, 2021 10:07 am

      Forget all that, it’s not wealth. Wealth is utility – the ability to visit my elderly mother every month because it costs very little and takes only 2 hours in a car. It’s picking up my teenage daughter late at night when she’s got into a pickle. It’s taking my pregnant wife to hospital when the baby is coming. It’s helping a friend move house.

      None of that will be possible in the future and so I will be much, much poorer.

      • Up2snuff permalink
        February 21, 2021 2:55 pm

        Phoenix, I agree.

        But that utility is no good if you are starving due to lack of fish (shipping) or fruit or vegetables (aircraft). And the road that you travel on to visit your mother, might be an old road built initially the Romans but it will have been improved by materials carried to depots (rail industry) and carried to site (trucks) and all those vehicles and work will have needed maintenance, and parts and insurance and crew.

        The big picture – got it now?

  12. Graham permalink
    February 21, 2021 9:09 am

    Cars are are not fit for purpose. The new designs are trying to outdo each other in vulgarity , are overweight and consume far to much Fuel. Exhausts are still to noisy and they exceed safe speeds. Instead of doing 100mph they should do 100mpg. We currently have the technology to do that , but for obvious reasons concerning our Lawmakers , will not be introduced. When my parents moved into our 1st House in 1958, the small Estate had 32 Houses with space for nice garden and a separate Car Parking area nearby , with Garage area for 20 Cars ( you supplied the Garage ! ). It was empty for a few years so we used to use it as a Tennis Court , anyway I digress. There were 3 Cars , 5 or 6 Motor Bikes and Bicycles. The local Bus service was inexpensive to use , reliable , 2 man operated and regular , every 15 minutes during the week from 06.00 to 10.30. If you lived within 2 or 3 miles of your workplace, you didn’t need a Car. Some people who commuted long distance caught the early Bus , then Steam Train into Birmingham etc. It worked really well.The only negative issue was that sometimes the Bus was pretty full at busy times ! I look forward to returning to those days, we have not made any progress here in Transport etc for over 50 years at least.

    • dave permalink
      February 21, 2021 10:03 am

      You were lucky! I had to crawl buck-naked, over broken glass, a hundred mile there-and-back,,to work for a penny a day. But I were allowed to eat the glass!

      • Graham permalink
        February 21, 2021 10:14 am

        I feel your pain Dave..

      • Gerry, England permalink
        February 21, 2021 11:25 am

        And tell that to kids today and they won’t believe you! Or hear you most like as you will have to get them to unplug their headphones first.

    • Up2snuff permalink
      February 21, 2021 2:59 pm

      Graham, you have a good point. But when the Treasury get 20% + duties from every litre of road fuel – except during a Pandemic – it helps to make roads and cars as inefficient as possible. 😉

      Cynical ? Moi? I could not possibly comment.

      • Graham permalink
        February 21, 2021 7:55 pm

        I say that regularly ! Add me to your list of Cynics ….!

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      February 21, 2021 4:32 pm

      Somehow, Graham, I get the feeling that you would be the kind of person who would look at modern cars and say, “They don’t make ’em like they used to do”. To which, the obvious answer is, thank God!
      In the ’50s and ’60s new estates were built without much thought being given to car-ownership (I live on one now) – and it shows. Without cars – private or otherwise – villagers would be confined to only visiting other villages and towns within walking distance, unless they were wealthy enough to own a horse. The local history of where I live is redolent of stories of young men who had never been further than five or 10 miles from their village – until WWI came along and introduced them to foreign travel.

      • Graham permalink
        February 21, 2021 9:08 pm

        Yes Harry, the old Cars were much better, give me a proper Issigonis ‘Mini’ any day…! Would love a new one made with today’s Technology ! My Neighbour has a new Mini and it does not fit in her Garage. Cars were not essential in 1950s and our quality of life was better, perhaps not quite as convenient I will concede. All the local outlying Villages nearby were served by smaller independent Coach Companies , with admittedly reduced service times. 100 years ago it was obviously quite a different story as you indicate.

  13. mwhite permalink
    February 21, 2021 9:09 am

    An ideal scheme for a couple that can only afford one car.

  14. Phoenix44 permalink
    February 21, 2021 10:02 am

    Bribed with our own money. The government will take £4,000 from you and after spending £1,000 on itself it will generously give you back £3,000 to spend on what the state thinks you should spend it on.

  15. February 21, 2021 10:05 am

    Merde

  16. MrGrimNasty permalink
    February 21, 2021 10:21 am

    Buses and deliberately obstructive road design cause more congestion than anything.

    Over the years I’ve watched as pull-in bays for buses have been removed and road layouts redesigned so that the buses block the road every time they service a stop.

    In many cases the stops have been moved to blind bends, pinch points, immediately after traffic light junctions etc. so passing is impossible or very dangerous until the bus leaves.

    Around my town it’s just a procession of cars following (usually near empty) buses at 17mph stop start.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      February 21, 2021 11:31 am

      Yes, very true. Buses are required to block the traffic when they stopped. When I suggested moving a bus stop away from a traffic island so that traffic could pass I was told that was not part of the plan.

      Westminster while raking in huge sums from parking have steered clear of the lunacy that surrounds them in Camden, Islington and especially the City. I hear that the word on the street is that all the so called Covid closures in the City are already causing a shift in smaller office rentals to elsewhere. Filling parking bays with giant flowerpots, seating and empty cycle racks is causing problems for servicing offices.

  17. 2hmp permalink
    February 21, 2021 10:36 am

    If an concept is fallible. Force it by bribery. Some will fall, others will abuse, others will nod and pass by.

  18. February 21, 2021 10:42 am

    I’m sure there’s more to this ‘scheme’ than meets the eye. ‘Towed away for the duration’, then they mention ‘scrapped’. My guess is that these old cars will be scrapped and the participants will then be obliged to buy a much more expensive ‘green’ vehicle at the end of it or will be offered further incentives to give up their right to drive. If the intention is to scrap old vehicles, why not just offer owners of older vehicles a generous subsidy to buy an electric vehicle or a less polluting newer petrol or diesel? Because the intention is to get people off the roads for good plus permanently reduce the number of private vehicles on the road and they are starting with less well off owners of older vehicles obviously. ‘Bait and switch’ springs to mind. I would advise anyone thinking of taking up this ‘offer’ to scrutinise the smallprint very carefully.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      February 21, 2021 11:32 am

      There used to be a good number of used cars being taken to Poland, Czech Republic and other places east. Perhaps the trade will be reversed and used cars brought here.

  19. Richard Lark permalink
    February 21, 2021 10:49 am

    Where is the political movement or party that will save us from the nonsense of AGW?

    • Rowland P permalink
      February 22, 2021 5:23 am

      UKIP or Heritage Party?

  20. Gerry, England permalink
    February 21, 2021 11:38 am

    In a piece looking at the politicisation of computer games I was stunned to learn that the market is bigger than film, music, etc put together. And as per the comment in the article, it is the mid 30s that are the main gamers. No wonder we are having to many problems with these children in positions of power and influence. Cue a heap of abuse, but the increase in touchy feely females in these positions has made it worse.

    The profile misses out that this bloke probably cycles aggressively in lycra or illegally uses a scooter, or worse a battery scooter.

  21. Vernon E permalink
    February 21, 2021 11:40 am

    As I have been banging on about, and will continue to bang on about, this is all aspects of UN 2030 Agenda for Sustainability and its coming at us fast! Last week’s awful speech from the Leader of the Labour Party skated round the edge of it as did Sajid David’s outpourings last weekend about putting monetary value on natural assets.

  22. Mad Mike permalink
    February 21, 2021 11:42 am

    Off this topic but of interest as it goes to the core of the climate debate. I don’t normally quote from this source because I find lots of what it contains to be debatable to say the least but this item caught my eye. Unfortunately I’m almost dyslexic where numbers are concerned so the mere mention of calculations makes me switch off. In this case, I think I’ve got the gist but I thought I’d put it out here to see if our resident physicist or others would evaluate the findings.

    https://principia-scientific.com/simple-greenhouse-model-2-the-reckoning/

    • Up2snuff permalink
      February 21, 2021 3:27 pm

      It seems pretty sound to me although, like you, I’d quail at the necessary maths.

      The thing is that our planet – out of the billions in the known universe, let alone the unknown universe – is a ‘Goldilocks planet’. It is neither too hot nor too cold to sustain life. It is just right. It rotates and is warmed on one side and cools on the other. It also wobbles in its orbit around its warming star and top and bottom both endure complete darkness and complete daytime during the course of a year.

      If it rotated faster, then it would probably get too hot or too cold. Certainly, the extra gravity would ensure that obesity was a thing of the past. If it rotated slower, it would probably get too hot or too cold. There would also be the danger of humans and animals floating off into space, finding too little oxygen to breath and definitely banging their heads on the tops of all the existing door frames.

      • It doesn't add up... permalink
        February 21, 2021 5:18 pm

        The strength of gravity does not depend on the speed of rotation of the planet. It is purely a function of the mass of the earth and its radius.

        g=GMe/r^2 where Me is mass of the earth, r is its radius and G is Newton’s gravitational constant.

        The same parameters also define the escape velocity

        ve= sqrt(2GMe/r)

        so the rotational speed of the earth would have to be 11km/sec at the equator to fling someone off. That would entail a compete rotation every hour, and assumes no air resistance.

      • Stuart Brown permalink
        February 21, 2021 7:03 pm

        ‘The thing is that our planet – out of the billions in the known universe, let alone the unknown universe – is a ‘Goldilocks planet’. It is neither too hot nor too cold to sustain life. It is just right.’

        Ah – but the thing is we (life like us) wouldn’t be here unless it was just right for us, would we? Mind, I never did really get the strong anthropic principle. And as for the participatory anthropic principle… does a tree falling in a wood make a noise if no-one hears it?

        Meanwhile, this pension age driver of a 14 year old diesel that has barely been off the drive this year would bite the hand off someone stupid enough to give me £3k for it.

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      February 21, 2021 8:20 pm

      @ Mad Mike
      Never mind fancy maths, just use simple known facts, arithmetic you can do on your fingers, some simple logic & a simple experiment.
      Because – “If a theory disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong” Richard Feynman .

      Lets start with some FACTS …
      Any excited molecule will emit energy until it reaches ‘Stasis’ (the temperature of its surroundings)
      (In physics, stasis refers to the balancing of various forces in order to reach equilibrium)
      It will remain ‘in stasis’ until –
      (1) hit by more radiant energy of the correct wavelength & becomes both an absorber & emitter until it reaches ‘Stasis’. or
      (2) it’s surroundings cool so it becomes an emitter until it reaches ‘Stasis’

      Earth’s average surface temperature is 14.9 ºC
      Temperatures in the atmosphere decrease with height at an average rate of 6.5°C/km
      (known as lapse rate)

      MATHS … any GHG even just 2 kM ht is … 14.9 ºC – 6.5°C – 6.5°C = 1.9°C
      that’s 13°C cooler than surface temperature.

      LOGIC …So for the Radiative Green House Gas theory to work: molecules at 1.9°C would have to heat something 13°C hotter than itself ( that breaks the 2nd law of thermodynamics ).

      EXPERIMENT to try at home –
      Take a cup of tap water, stand it in a large bowl of ice-cubes & see if the cup of water boils.
      (hint – read a book on basic physics while you wait ! )

  23. cookers52 permalink
    February 21, 2021 1:32 pm

    Something similar was tried by John Prescott in the 1990’s . Altered the planning regulations so that number of parking spaces on developments were restricted.

    Result , total parking chaos at every business and retail park, cars parked all over pavements everywhere.

    • Mad Mike permalink
      February 21, 2021 2:20 pm

      Couldn’t see that one coming could you.

  24. February 21, 2021 2:58 pm

    I’ve been driving since I drove tractors in the latter War years as a young lad. Nobody is going to take my car away from me. Full stop.

  25. February 21, 2021 3:22 pm

    WHY are these 35 year old vegans making policy? Are the rest of the people that ignorant, that sheepish, that deserving of the nightmare they are letting happen to them? Humans all behave like battered spouses, begging and pleading and getting beat because no one wants to pull out that marble rolling pin.

  26. Nancy & John Hultquist permalink
    February 21, 2021 8:46 pm

    “Of course, the rich and powerful will still retain their luxury cars.”

    They might retain such, but driving (or being driven) on public roads in daylight might require a good deal of courage.
    Just saying.

  27. Gamecock permalink
    February 22, 2021 2:56 am

    Next year, they’ll give you £4,000 for not eating.

  28. Dave Cowdell permalink
    February 22, 2021 9:35 am

    Public transport, taxis what on earth are those? Electric scooters would really work well on the hills here in West Wales. These city types have no comprehension how the majority of rural people live.

  29. Micky R permalink
    February 22, 2021 9:39 am

    A car = freedom and the opportunity to earn money. There is a business case for building more roads; there is no business case for restricting travel by car.

    Unfortunately, those who are proposing green policies have little interest in business, unless it’s subsidised by my taxes.

  30. Lorde Late permalink
    February 22, 2021 8:07 pm

    He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache…. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself.
    He loved Big Brother.
    W Smith.

    (G.Orwell (with apologies)).

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