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RAF To Go Net Zero

May 5, 2021

By Paul Homewood

 

 Is there no end to this idiocy?

From the Telegraph:

 

 

 

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I am sure his public demands no such thing. I suspect most people expect the RAF to defend the country, not play silly Greta games. And “diverting investment from equipment and platforms” will greatly harm our defences, not to mention putting the lives of his own airmen at risk.

70 Comments
  1. 2hmp permalink
    May 5, 2021 2:13 pm

    This is just creeping to his bosses. What a silly man, and heck he is in charge of our Air Force. What chance would we have with a man with judgement like that.

    • Mack permalink
      May 5, 2021 2:40 pm

      For net zero read fighter jet zero. They are all out with the fairies I’m afraid but, what’s far worse is that their delusions are becoming truly dangerous now.

  2. Christopher Reynolds permalink
    May 5, 2021 2:17 pm

    The Russians and Chinese will of course be doing the same thing…

    • May 5, 2021 2:23 pm

      of course they will…… after they have got up from the floor after rolling around laughing helplessly.

      • Coeur de Lion permalink
        May 5, 2021 4:50 pm

        I’m way out of date but the twenty minute video someone sent me of a Chinese navy ‘shopwindow’ exercise was absolutely terrifying. Full size flat top with cutting edge air group. Modern ships sculpted to reduce radar echoes as is the fashion. Attack and ballistic missile nuke subs. Fire power demo, vertical launch missiles, anti-missile Gatling, damage laser, rapid fire gunnery of course, cruise and anti-ship missiles, radar arrays very tweaky indeed. The men mustered almost robotically, saluting to order doubling neatly to battle stations. Wow

    • May 5, 2021 2:43 pm

      “The Russians and Chinese will of course be doing the same thing…”

      If not, points will be deducted.

      And you know what fewer points mean?

      Yes, fewer prizes!!!

    • Rasa permalink
      May 5, 2021 8:46 pm

      Yes there will be a Code of Practice between enemies so that they will all use the same Green Munitions and Jets…..😳

  3. eromgiw permalink
    May 5, 2021 2:22 pm

    Follow the money… who exactly stands to gain from this? Which bunch of lobbyists?

    • John Fuller permalink
      May 5, 2021 4:51 pm

      Exactly. Someone smells government largesse and by the time net zero arrives, like the politicians, they will all have retired on fat pensions.

  4. Penda100 permalink
    May 5, 2021 2:23 pm

    We need more renewables. Gliders and airships – that will sort out the Russians.

  5. May 5, 2021 2:33 pm

    Correct me if I am wrong but is it not the case that the military of every country on the Planet is spending billions ( China and Russia Trillions) every year to try and achieve even a miniscule tactical edge over their opponents. The whole point of the military and indeed spending on them is so they have the best chance to win, nothing else matters.

    Part of that edge is planes which fly faster for longer by any means and vehicles which keep going for longer …by any means. This gives tactical advantage. Where is the statement by this loser that his efforts will not only not affect our ability to win wars in a negative way but will actually enhance that?

    Also this vegetarian nonsense which is being pushed very hard. Has anyone actually done any research into 1. What happens if the whole world went vegetarian and its effect on food supply and 2. If that can have ANY effect whatsoever on their imaginary “climate change crisis”? This is pure mad lefty hippie asininity being pushed along by very very dangerous people.

    • Nexus321 permalink
      May 7, 2021 2:05 pm

      Research has been done into the impact of a vegetarian diet on the environment in terms of not having to maintain billions of animals, eliminating billions of gallons of untreated animal waste, using much less water, reforesting land, significantly reducing the fish catch as much of it is used to feed animals, etc. I would not outlaw meat a dairy more reflect the real cost to the environment in the price so demand falls. Will not impact the climate as that is driven by the Earth’s interaction with the Sun and CO2 is not a pollutant. Climate warming is a perverse ideology and carbon tax/credits a scam. The next epoch will be cold.

  6. GeoffB permalink
    May 5, 2021 2:39 pm

    You would think the Air Chief Marshal would have the balls to tell the green loonies to F off.

    • Cheshire Red permalink
      May 5, 2021 3:03 pm

      He’d be out of a job faster than you could say ‘Hail, Greta’!

  7. Lord Late permalink
    May 5, 2021 2:43 pm

    Reminds me of a spoof advert years ago

    Join the Army, Travel the worrld, see interesting places, meet interesting people….
    and kill them.

    • Russ Wood permalink
      May 5, 2021 4:10 pm

      THAT was according to the incomparable Milligan!

      • Ray Sanders permalink
        May 5, 2021 10:50 pm

        (With apologies to our site host) I always remember Milligan’s accountants.
        They were Novak and Goode. They latterly gained a new German partner, a Mr Stihl – they were Stihl, Novak and Goode.

    • Jongo permalink
      May 6, 2021 12:41 am

      My memory tells me it was Spike Milligan who said this in a Goon Show, not an advert.

  8. Don B permalink
    May 5, 2021 2:46 pm

    Paul, there is no end to the idiocy.

    In the April, 2021 issue of United Airlines “Hemispheres,” CEO Scott Kirby insanely bragged:

    “At the end of 2020, we announced our industry-leading commitment to go 100 percent green by reducing our carbon emissions 100 percent by 2050. We plan to do so by investing in carbon capture and sequestration and other emerging technologies, instead of by relying on traditional carbon offsets.”

    • Penda100 permalink
      May 5, 2021 5:57 pm

      Love the thought of an airliner flying with CCS plant attached.

      • Curious George permalink
        May 5, 2021 6:54 pm

        It will be achieved by a court order. The Second Law of Thermodynamics will be abolished.

  9. Andrew Harding permalink
    May 5, 2021 2:48 pm

    The only targets to be hit are our grounded fighters and bombers! But never mind virtue signalling is more important than the defence of our country.

    • mikewaite permalink
      May 5, 2021 8:24 pm

      When you consider the antics of Fat Dictator and his slimy crew you might think that there are worse fates than being conquered by the Russians or Chinese. For one thing our chidren and grand children might have a future.
      The Glorious Revolution of 1688, effectively conquest by the Dutch, was the saving of England.

      • Duker permalink
        May 6, 2021 5:58 am

        Mary II and Anne were both daughters of James II and had nothing Dutch about them, indeed they were followed by the mediocre german Guelphs and Wettins and their renamed branch the Windsors. William spent most of his time on his military actions in Europe and the Bill of Rights was in response to the autocratic ( and catholic ) James II

  10. William Birch permalink
    May 5, 2021 3:17 pm

    Wow think it is going to be a no contest between an RAF glider and the latest Russian SU 57 stealth fighter jet. The nonsense coming out of the UK government is worthy of a Gilbert and Sullivan Operetta

  11. Broadlands permalink
    May 5, 2021 3:24 pm

    Does anyone know what the RAF’s net-zero target actually is… in tons of CO2 captured and safely stored? Is it some percentage of the rest of the UK’s net-zero goal? How can the Air Force capture any CO2 anyhow? How can an any Air Force plane get off the ground without carbon fuels? All this seems to be beyond stupid.

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      May 5, 2021 3:45 pm

      ” How can an any Air Force plane get off the ground without carbon fuels”

      Catapults (solar powered steam on a bright summer day; or hydrogen exploding in a tube, or wind powered linear motor.)
      … how long they stay airborne is another matter
      you could always open a plane recycling center 100m beyond the end of the runway & get free product delivery, how green is that.

      • Broadlands permalink
        May 5, 2021 5:01 pm

        With asphalt, cement and concrete supposedly contributing to “global warming”, those runways and highways may soon have CO2-capturing vegetation growing on them. How green is that.

      • Ron Arnett permalink
        May 5, 2021 5:41 pm

        good one

  12. mjr permalink
    May 5, 2021 3:43 pm

    maybe they will plant lots of trees on those huge areas of grass at the airfields as carbon offsets; cant see any problem with loads of trees either side the runway .
    And i can see lots of huge orders for massive rubber bands to power the typhoon.

    • Russ Wood permalink
      May 5, 2021 4:15 pm

      I was once taken by military aircraft to a South African Air Force base on the borders of the Kruger Park. Being used to airfields with tarmac strips surrounded by grass (with sheep sometimes), I was amazed to land in the ‘bundu’. The airfield is fully planted (?) with thorn trees, with a little clear space between the runway and the trees. Camouflage, maybe?

  13. Ray Sanders permalink
    May 5, 2021 4:34 pm

    I genuinely believed brain transplants where the stuff of science fiction but quite obviously I was wrong. What I now need to know is who are these surgeons who remove the brains of these people and replant (p)re-conditioned ones in their place?

  14. May 5, 2021 4:58 pm

    How’s that hydrogen fuel cell plane testing going? Ohhh…

    https://www.bedfordindependent.co.uk/hydrogen-powered-plane-crashes-during-test-flight-at-cranfield/

    • Curious George permalink
      May 5, 2021 5:18 pm

      “On April 29th, our R&D aircraft made a safe, off-airport landing in a field just outside the Bedfordshire airport,” ZeroAvia said in a tweet. “Aircraft has sustained some damage, but everybody involved is safe, and without injury.

      • Duker permalink
        May 6, 2021 5:28 am

        ‘Safe, off airport landing’ ?
        It crashed

      • chris moffatt permalink
        May 8, 2021 7:24 pm

        More than “some damage”; that thing is a write-off. Nothing “safe” about the crash landing either. Whoever was flying it was very lucky if there really were no injuries. Judging by the lack of prop damage the prop was likely not rotating at the time of impact indicating a power failure. Oh well just another succesful test flight….

    • dave permalink
      May 5, 2021 5:23 pm

      The result of a minor prang! Is it made with a balsa-wood kit, like the ones I used to buy for fifteen bob? Not exactly a design which could be made commercially.

      Woke fakery and fantasy. But undoubtedly a nice little earner for some trougher.

    • MikeHig permalink
      May 5, 2021 10:56 pm

      Lack of damage to the prop suggests it was not turning on impact……

      • Duker permalink
        May 6, 2021 5:37 am

        Its not really a ‘first’ at all. Boeing had a small hydrogen fuel cell powered plane flying back in 2008https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1c/Boeing_Fuel_Cell_Demonstrator_AB1.JPG/1920px-Boeing_Fuel_Cell_Demonstrator_AB1.JPG
        Zero Avia have just converted a 6 seater Piper Malibu ( inc pilot) to run on a hydrogen fuel cell – PLUS batteries.
        Other aspects arent what they seem
        ‘And while the Malibu is technically still a passenger aircraft, ZeroAvia has had to replace four of the Malibu’s five passenger seats to accommodate bulky hydrogen tanks and other equipment.’
        So its a 2 seater adaptation of a 6 seater flying on flim flam

      • AC Osborn permalink
        May 6, 2021 9:56 am

        The first flight probably made nationwide headlines, but this crash is in the local paper only.

  15. Harry Passfield permalink
    May 5, 2021 5:04 pm

    50-odd years ago I was loading atomic bombs into the belly of my squadron aircraft as part of a QRA (Quick Reaction Alert). I guess they may not be considered NZC but they’d do a good job of vaporising any carbon they landed on.
    The thing is, unless the RAF has changed beyond recognition there will be airmen doing exactly what I was doing back then. And they will not be thinking of how to offset the carnage their WMD can inflict.
    The CotAS must be considered the greatest ‘Greta’ going. Sheesh!!

    • T Walker permalink
      May 5, 2021 5:52 pm

      Yes Harry – about the time your thinking of, I remember a malfunction on the ground (luckily no nukes involved) which wrote-off an aircraft – nobody injured as the leaking fuel didn’t catch. The following day it was described as a minor incident in the local rag – nothing changes.

    • Paul H permalink
      May 6, 2021 12:17 am

      I did similar, especially when a QRA start up with a low trolleyac resulted in all four jet pipes being cooked. The resultant pandemonium to generate a replacement aircraft was quite exciting for a newly arrived LAC. What aircraft do we now have capable of carrying a nuclear bomb of the size we had in those days? I don’t think we have any nuclear bomb dropping capability anymore.

    • Thomas Carr permalink
      May 6, 2021 12:02 pm

      The CotAS has form when it comes to politiucal correctness.

  16. Peter S permalink
    May 5, 2021 5:10 pm

    The plan was to use paper aeroplanes until they realised that involved cutting down trees. Now the pilots are receiving training on running as fast as they can with their arms outstretched while shouting Brrrrrrrrrmm.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      May 5, 2021 8:23 pm

      What can you play?

      I can play Dambusters…

      Laa, la la la la-la la la-la la la la, la la la-la-la laa…

      With thumb and first finger goggles.

  17. Tim Gettins permalink
    May 5, 2021 5:43 pm

    A welcome boost for depleted uranium?

  18. REM permalink
    May 5, 2021 6:47 pm

    If successive governments decided that the Armed Forces had to achieve net zero why did Blair/Brown/Miliband not order nuclear-powered carriers? Indeed, why is the entire surface fleet not nuclear-powered, like the submarines? Then all the RAF’s aircraft could be handed over to the Navy and their emissions offset by clean nuclear-driven warships. And has this forward-thinking Air Chief Marshal ordered only clean, non-dust-stirring bombs and non-exhaust-trailing missiles for his electric Tiger Moth?

  19. tom0mason permalink
    May 5, 2021 7:55 pm

    LOL!
    Hahahaha!
    The RAF
    oh-hahaha,
    to go
    Aaaghahaha !!
    Net Zero
    pwar-hahahaha 🙂

    And any possible enemy would ‘of course’ do the same?
    What is this Airforce for?
    Just an ornament for keep the political fantasists of this government amused.
    Or is it a credible force, ready and able to defend the nation at a moments notice?
    If it is the forma and not the latter, then the lunatics are in charge!
    The Bozo Government of climate clowns where Build Back Better means ‘make more mediocre’ by ‘designed disordered deficiency’ through ‘ruined rational resolve’, ensuring a future of ‘pauperized prudent purpose’.

  20. It doesn't add up... permalink
    May 5, 2021 8:34 pm

    Were to see a truly apocalyptic climate (RCP 11.5 – turn it up to 11!) there would of course be conflict to inhabit the parts that remained habitable. Command of the air is the first rule of any modern military campaign. So that would be our futures nullified.

  21. May 5, 2021 8:48 pm

    God help us!

  22. MrGrimNasty permalink
    May 5, 2021 9:23 pm

    With modern materials, there’s no reason pedal planes won’t work.

    • Duker permalink
      May 6, 2021 1:17 am

      Bugatti had the right idea pre-war…speed was everything, his 100P racer

  23. May 5, 2021 9:33 pm

    Actually, the “diverting investment from equipment and platforms into infrastructure…”, would be a good thing for some RAF Stations. I have knowledge of one where the infrastructure is a disgrace. Think water, heating and power supply. But perhaps that’s his plan; have fewer F35B’s, and use the spare cash for some decent working and living conditions for the troops.

  24. MrGrimNasty permalink
    May 5, 2021 9:50 pm

    “Now, it seems, the sector [space tourism] is being rekindled. As well as Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, British entrepreneur Sir Richard Branson continues to push his Virgin Galactic rocket plane concept.”

    Space tourism for the elite, unaffordable heating, unaffordable mobilty, and a meat free diet of seasonal root vegetables for thee and me.

    Celeb ‘climate injustice’ literally reaches new heights.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57000820

    • StephenP permalink
      May 6, 2021 8:02 am

      What is the CO2 footprint of a ‘space tourist’ trip?
      It seems on a par with EV cars only for the rich.

  25. cookers52 permalink
    May 6, 2021 7:44 am

    Easy solution to this problem.

    Don’t read the Telegraph!

    • May 6, 2021 9:46 am

      I wonder at what age we realise that the ‘great and the good’ who shape our lives are neither great nor good but mostly a bunch of idiots?

  26. Gamecock permalink
    May 6, 2021 10:25 am

    You can get away with this silliness as long as the U.S. is still The World’s Policeman.

    Notice: Biden is president.

    Notice 2: Australia, you are naked to Chinese aggression. You depend on UK and US for protection; they are going to electric airplanes.

    Notice 3: China controls the unicorn urine market.

  27. Mad Mike permalink
    May 6, 2021 10:29 am

    I thought this guy had got ultra jet lag when I first read the piece but then this stood out for me and I realised that he had his political hat on.

    “That will require additional investment.”

    Basically his message to Boris is “We can follow your green agenda but it’ll cost you.”

    Like all department heads he is always pitching for more money.

  28. Cheshire Red permalink
    May 6, 2021 10:59 am

    O/T Another Guardian puff piece, this time about ‘rising sea levels’.

    Central claim: on target for 40cm (16 inches) of sea level rise by 2100.
    Reality: current SLR is less than half that number.

    Pessimistic claim: mass flooding caused by an ‘over-sensitive Antarctic’.
    Reality; This scenario is completely made up, as the study lead (Dr Tamsin Edwards) freely admits.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/06/stop-rising-sea-levels-scientists-climate-forecast

  29. Andy permalink
    May 6, 2021 11:35 am

    “Electric tanks”

    Idiots. That’s all I have to say.

  30. Mike Marks permalink
    May 6, 2021 12:32 pm

    RAF, hydrogen power ie zeppelins
    Army , horses and bicycles
    Navy, sail.

  31. SimonfromAshby permalink
    May 6, 2021 2:16 pm

    Net Zero = Net shot Down.

    Who’d want to be a pilot?

  32. Peter Paddon permalink
    May 6, 2021 4:19 pm

    Are we replacing our F35s with kites?

  33. May 14, 2021 5:38 am

    Climate heroism is where it’s at I guess

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