Ban All New Gas Boilers By 2025 Say IEA
By Paul Homewood
Could somebody please tell me which planet McGrath And Harrabin are on?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-57149059
Do the pair really think that the rest of the world is going to pay the slightest notice of this edict from the IEA?
Still, credit where it’s due: at least Harrabin is now actually admitting that the alternatives to gas are horribly expensive, as well as highly impractical.
Meanwhile in other news, Germany is making it totally clear that it intends to carry on using coal power until 2038, and Russian gas for much longer:
German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Saturday (15 May) rejected calls to bring forward the country’s exit date for coal in power generation, currently set at 2038.
“Those affected need some reliability on the path to climate neutrality,” said Merkel. “I don’t want to unravel this again after one year.”
The German coal phase-out law was agreed in July 2020 – 18 months after the country’s coal exit commission recommended that coal-fired power generation should be ended by 2038 at the latest.
But the phase-out is much later than in many EU countries. Most have a phase-out date of 2030 or before while others, like Belgium and Austria, have already ditched coal from their energy mixes.
The Paris Agreement also calls for developed countries to have ditched coal by 2030 – eight years before Germany’s current target.
BERLIN, May 17. /TASS/. Germany’s Federal Maritime and Hydrographic Agency (BSH) has authorized the laying of pipes for Nord Stream 2 in German waters, but the construction may follow only at the end of May, the German regulator said in a statement on Monday.
https://tass.com/economy/1290641?mc_cid=565ffdf6d5&mc_eid=4961da7cb1
If even Germany is dragging its feet, I hardly think the rest of the world is going to give a toss about what the IEA have to say.
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
The Emperors Clothes just keep on getting more and more resplendent…….
He will lose the shirt of his back as well eventually!
I am staggered that all this mainstream B/S continues allthough having read some of the BBC comments it would seem not many proles are in favour.
Obviously a wonderful carbon neutral one. I watched part of their interviews and questions, does someone actually pay them a salary.
“Could somebody please tell me which planet McGrath And Harrabin are on?”
2018 VG18, or more likely just a completely alternate reality.
Planet of the Apes ?
^.^
Or, more specifically, Planet of the Chumps.
Uranus, obviously!
Sadly the same one as us!
Meanwhile in the real world, from which the BBC is progressively divorcing itself,
https://www.rt.com/business/516429-china-massive-oil-gas-discovery/
“The well was tested to produce an average of approximately 1,980 barrels of crude oil per day. The company expects daily crude oil and natural gas generation from the well to reach 300 tons and 150,000 cubic meters, Zhou was cited as saying by China Daily. ”
To an observer from this real world the BBC is , like the Cheshire Cat , gradually disappearing into its own imaginary world, leaving just, not a grin, but a sneer.
You cant use hydrogen unless you replace all the steel pipes from the street main to the gas meter!! because they will leak.
Boom!
Nonsense, actually. Towns gas was 50% hydrogen for decades.
No, it was carbon monoxide. There was no hydrogen in it. Any gas used for domestic use has to have a carbon element because that is where most of the energy comes from. Currently we use methane. Hydrogen on its own is a weak fuel and a much larger volume will have to be burned for the same energy as methane. A watched kettle really will not boil.
Derek – see here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_gas
“The composition of coal gas varied according to the type of coal and the temperature of carbonisation. Typical figures were:
hydrogen 50%
methane 35%
carbon monoxide 10%
ethylene 5%
”
That was in the UK, but other places may have done things differently. And indeed it was supplied through cast iron pipes. I’m old enough to remember the country not blowing up on a regular basis.
But, as you say, hydrogen has a third the calorific value by volume, and so we’ll have to change all the cookers, boilers, gas fires etc for new ones capable of burning H2 and use three times as much of it. Making hydrogen from natural gas (methane) for that purpose would be the height of insanity, but it seems to be where we are headed.
The IEA is a body that advises OECD countries specifically, it was created by OECD after the oil crisis. Although some other nations have an association status with the IEA, including India and China, it’s of course unlikely they will take Birol’s reports (or anything else produced by the UN/WEF blob) too seriously.
Regarding Germany, it’s quite surprising they can’t switch to gas sooner. Britain’s transition from coal to gas was far quicker, which proves that even without cheap indigenous supply countries like the US enjoy, it’s realistic and affordable to switch. Plus it makes a lot more sense for them to use flexible gas, now that their grid is overloaded with unreliables. Continuation of the NS2 project was expected, now that LNG deliveries from America are out of the equation with Biden in the office. With the new pipelines built, supply shouldn’t be an issue.
I see that Biden is planning not to impose sanctions against the companies involved in completing Nordstream 2. Also worth remembering that the OECD has a new head – Mathias Cormann of Australia, who might inject some different views in due course, although rumour has it he is at least temporarily converted from being a sceptic.
Biden has already banned gas exploration of federal lands, and fracking seems to be next on his list. America isn’t going to have any surplus gas to send to Europe. And with coal and nuclear closures, the EU is going to need more gas. Opposing the pipeline is not something they can afford anymore, everyone understands that the alternative is letting Germany freeze in the winter. Although, construction might stall yet again if Greens score a major win in the German elections, these fellas might be just dumb enough to accelerate coal exit and try to cancel NS2 at the same time.
I’d expect that the globalist swamp swallows this Cormann guy just like everyone else before him. Boris used to be against wind power too, calling it ridiculous and impractical, and now the UK is to be the Saudi Arabia of wind.
Gas from the Bowland Shale field? Oops that is now owned by the
Chinese state
This is an initiative from the UK, Boris and his green army:
“In line with an official request by the COP26 Presidency, the IEA is developing a new special report providing the first comprehensive energy-sector pathway towards global net-zero emissions by 2050. This report assesses the policy requirements, the deployment and innovation needs, the necessary investments, the economic benefits and the wider implications for the world. https://www.iea.org/reports/net-zero-by-2050
More virtue signaling BS that will disappear and be forgotten when reality sets in.
The problem is however, if we pay attention to what the likes of XR and increasingly extremist infested Greenpeace are preaching it is that chaos and catastrophic loss of living standards are exactly what they want to impose on us all because we are “guilty” and need to be punished.
We are dealing with an evangelical religious fervour which has been allowed to gestate and metastasize on the back of society, championed by the dangerous left and promoted by among others the partial marxist flag waving Guardian and the marxist wannabe lickspittles of the BBC.
Interestingly enough, the IEA predicts the world will still be mostly ran by fossil fuels in 2100.
Guess that carbon limit cap doesn’t mean a toss either in their book.
Even though Harrabin acknowledges there are great problems, he still slipped in the myth about clean burning hydrogen. Nitrogen oxide is a by product of burning hydrogen or any other material because oxygen, a necessary requirement for combustion, comes from air, which is made up of 79% nitrogen
Far from being clean burning, hydrogen produces more NOx than natural gas. In the past I’ve had three research projects on low-NOx combustion – these days it’s off the radar apart from traffic and its effect on air quality.
I had not realized that John. Thanks for the info. I will look into that. I think it all comes down to the fact that any release of energy inside a complex system will produce a complexity of by-products as a function of all the elements which are present.
Meanwhile at 08.00 wind produces 0.93GW and coal 0.49GW so the Grid can’t make up the numbers without coal and biomass is into the red area at 3.08GW.
Why look at hugely expensive heat pumps when electric combi boilers are on offer for far less?
https://www.heatershop.co.uk/elnur-mac15-3-15kw?cat=3042
And gas boilers are 1/3 of the running costs.
Presumably running costs would be much higher?
If, as Prof Mike Kelly reckons, it would cost around £60,000 to equip and insulate the average home I think that would pay for a lot of running costs. Of course, we need to realise that running costs are headed upwards. But I think it should still cover a good number of years, and it doesn’t have to be found up front.
Hey why not get a combined cooker, central heating and hot water supply for under £700
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/293198369588?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111451%26meid%3D2db0d3be5b754568b7
Doesn’t use Gas, oil, coal or even electricity (well maybe the pump does a little) problem sorted?
Must be a really stupid idea as even Harrabin points out the expense and “difficulties” of heating homes without gas. Can’t believe even Boris’s Government would go for it in this timespan. After all they might still be around in 2025 and will have to account for their virtue signalling whereas 2035…………….
Have we reached peak idiocy yet?
We are a Medieval society with our windmills and our stifling, castigation and exiling anyone (from communication) that does not agree with the dogma, blind faith. In this age of insistence and narrowness, ‘no platforming’ and the allure of eccentricity as a moral code, here is our every day Mystery Play. We are plagued by seers, amulets and portents.
At least heretics (us) can perhaps have a hope that we will not be burnt at the stake (because of the pollution). When the church went magical and mystical in the Middle Ages science was right in its path. Any form of experimentation was suspect. Roger Bacon was imprisoned for fourteen years for his possession of an enquiring mind; seen as sacrilegious, questioning the scriptures, a Devil’s disciple. Meanwhile, Islam, away from the witchcraft and incense, was forging ahead with its intellectual study, building libraries of great diversity. Florentine bibliophiles collected their books (made available after the Reconquista) and fired off an age of enquiry and creativity in Italy, the Renaissance.
But then, as now, the church (transposed now to vested interest indulgence and fortunes) guarded its control, regarding religion as the basis of all philosophical thought, persisted through terror until the emergence of the Lollards, Hus and, ultimately, Luther. The persistence of what masqueraded as faith, saw Galileo indicted, had what looked like its last fling under the auspices of Cromwell.
Unfortunately not. Looking at the BBC, its command of British broadcasting, we see what self-interest, untouchability does. Mr Harrabin is their Witchfinder General (Matthew Hopkins, the original holder of that title, was tried for witchery, by the rules he had devised, failed the test and lost his life). I wish no harm to Harrabin but is he not the embodiment of the over zealous Puritan? Fired by his notoriety, lost in his fame? As for Mr Attenborough, he has become the dupe of a febrile clique in a scenario not unlike Hitler’s dealings with Hindenburg. Our religious belief surely was in a benign Deity that had provisioned the world for mankind. Now we see even those of the cloth turning religion on its head entertaining the thought that the Deity was all along planning our extinction? Some volte-face; oh ye of little faith.
I noticed a twitter thread by Willis Eschenbach lambasting the same EIA report. He does a simple calculation to show that the US would need to build a new 1GW nuclear power station every three weeks from now on just to generate the electricity to charge the EVs that will supposedly replace ICE vehicles, see https://twitter.com/WEschenbach/status/1394562021929095170?s=20.
Willis carried out a similar calculation for the UK.
“To replace the UK’s current fossil fuel consumption of 1.7 PWh/year by 2050, they will have to site, approve, build, test, and connect to the grid a 1-gigawatt nuclear plant each and every month from now until 2050.!
That is 246 power plants. You can read the details here:
https://judithcurry.com/2021/03/21/uk-climate-policy-discussion-thread/
March 22 2021, 1.11 am.
The EIA report calls for annual additions of 630 GW of solar 390 GW of wind globally. That’s almost 20 GW per week. Probably equivalent to something like 5 GW by actual energy produced, considering the typical low capacity factors that wind and solar have and that a lot of it would have to be curtailed, but still.
Harrabin actually asks an open question “how will we heat our homes?”
To achieve net zero, nobody knows! Green policies are going nowhere, our energy system has become an experiment in chaos theory.
O/T, Telegraph; energy prices jump. What a surprise, said absolutely nobody!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/05/19/inflation-leaps-energy-prices-jump/
O/T, laughable, preposterous, weapons-grade BS from the Guardian, British Geological Survey and Damian Carrington. Someone somewhere should be prosecuting these li-ars.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/may/19/climate-crisis-to-put-millions-of-british-homes-at-risk-of-subsiding
‘The International Energy Agency (IEA) says that no new fossil fuel boilers should be sold from 2025 if the world is to achieve net-zero emissions by the middle of this century.’
The world ?!?! This is UK’s game; the world isn’t playing.
The BBC lecturing o heating systems…jeez give me strength.
BBC Television Centre.
“In February 1996, the electricity and heating were transferred to a European Gas Turbines (EGT) 4.9MWe Typhoon gas turbine combined heating, power and cooling unit. It included a 6MW Thermax air conditioning (cooling) vapour absorption machine (VAM). The £6m HVAC system reduced energy costs by 35%, and paid for itself within three years. A second turbine was added, without a second chimney. However, in 2008 the BBC admitted that the energy system was being used for emergency purposes only as it had become cost-ineffective to use full-time. Excess electricity produced at night has not been returned to the National Grid, as originally planned. In November 2003, the turbine’s chimneys caught fire, bringing TV output to a halt. After the fire the turbines were no longer used regularly.”
Would Horrorbin chose to work in an unheated studio?
Wrote to my MP to complain about the policy. Told him that there’s not a hope in hell of achieving Net Zero inside 50 years and that when people realise the disruption and cost of alternatives it will be a big vote loser. Asked him where were the trained people to change the infrastructure and when training would start.
It’s all utter madness and all designed to reduce food production for (when the covid issue is under control) to feed a growing world population.
damn right!
It is amazing that this document follows the IPCC report format of starting with a section “Summary for Policy Makers”. If the people who are making our policies know no better than to read lobbying reports only, in which the lobbyists pander to their elevated positions we really are up the proverbial creek. Sadly, this does seem to be the case and we really are….
“Ban All New Gas Boilers By 2025 Say IEA”
An article in which the Beeb’s so-called “Energy Analyst” helpfully explains how hydrogen gas can help heat our homes.
So not the geothermal fracking at Caharrack then? Has to get a free pass.
https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/P5OE0/4/
Geothermal heat may warm places like Cornwall. Well yes, but try doing that without using hydrofracture, which as we all know is the technique of the Devil.