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Brand new Tesla Model S Plaid ‘drives up hill while ablaze’ just weeks after model with new battery went on market

July 1, 2021

By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Patsy Lacey

 

 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9745621/Brand-new-Tesla-Model-S-Plaid-rolls-road-explodes-just-weeks-model-went-market.html

37 Comments
  1. July 1, 2021 7:28 pm

    3 hours to put the fire out! Wouldn’t want to be a fireman sorting out a multi-electric pile up!

    • Gerry, England permalink
      July 1, 2021 7:58 pm

      Best policy would be to stop the fire spreading and just let it burn out. Perhaps drivers of battery cars should be made to wear an ID tag to help with identification.

      • Gerard permalink
        July 2, 2021 4:23 am

        All battery powered vehicles in Australia have to be identified via a tag on their number plate.

    • July 2, 2021 12:09 pm

      Firemen have other lithium-related problems to deal with too.

      Lithium-ion battery fires costing the UK over £150 million per year
      15 January 2021

      Lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries are responsible for around 48% of all waste fires occurring in the UK each year
      https://humbersidefire.gov.uk/newsroom/news/lithium-ion-battery-fires-costing-the-uk-over-150-million-per-year

  2. Colin R Brooks AKA Dung permalink
    July 1, 2021 7:29 pm

    Just goes to show that proven technology is often better than new tech. It took a long time for us to tame the ICE.

  3. Harry Passfield permalink
    July 1, 2021 7:39 pm

    If you were a fireman (ok, fighter) you want to hope that anyone with bad motives didn’t use a Tesla as the basis for a car bomb.

    • spike55 permalink
      July 2, 2021 3:55 am

      “didn’t use a Tesla as the basis for a car bomb”

      I think a guy names “Musk” already had that idea !

  4. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    July 1, 2021 7:45 pm

    That is both frightening and expensive.
    It’s almost as though there’s a backlash to lithhum battery powered vehicles.
    Rightly so and about time too.

    That common nuisance the bloody e-scooter turns out to not only be a health hazzard on the road, on the pavement and now in the home as well.

    It is no joke.
    None e-scooter owners lives are at risk as well as the owners.

    In a paper today it reported –
    ‘cheap or faulty e-scooter and bike batteries can “fail with ferocity”. More than two dozen blazes involving electric vehicles this year.’

    Petrol and diesel vehicles are just fine and many were getting even better.
    Although it would be almost impossible to better the fabulous Douglas Dragonfly motorbike !

    https://metro.co.uk/2021/07/01/london-warning-over-e-scooter-batteries-causing-ferocious-fires-14857807/

  5. Gerry, England permalink
    July 1, 2021 8:00 pm

    Just imagine what will happens when one of these battery cars goes up in flames in a tunnel. Perhaps they should be banned on safety grounds.

    • Russ Wood permalink
      July 7, 2021 5:28 pm

      I have read that some European cities already ban battery cars from their multi-story parking garages.

  6. Andrew Harding permalink
    July 1, 2021 8:10 pm

    I am retired and during the day listen to BBC Radio 2, switching my brain off when climate change is mentioned for the nth time! Traffic reports are broadcast every hour, or more often if there are severe problems.

    One very notable change in recent months in these reports has been a huge increase in gridlocks caused by cars on fire! A few years ago these incidents were a rarity, not now! What of course has changed is an increase in the number of EV’s on UK roads.

    It is a well known, but very much under-reported fact, that EV’s can spontaneously combust and no-one knows why? Another under-reported fact is that the content of an EV battery is highly toxic.

    The Mushroom Policy so as not to indict the PC narrative: Kept in the dark and fed on s**t!

    • Gamecock permalink
      July 1, 2021 10:35 pm

      “It is a well known, but very much under-reported fact, that EV’s can spontaneously combust and no-one knows why?”

      Tesla software?

      The motors get into an argument with the power steering?

    • mikewaite permalink
      July 2, 2021 8:55 am

      “It is a well known, but very much under-reported fact, that EV’s can spontaneously combust and no-one knows why? ”
      £767000. That, according to Zoopla is the value of our suburban semi. Next door they have a new model Tesla and e-Golf parked , and recharged daily , in the driveway, just a few metres away. Should we :-
      a: sell up and move
      b: Inform our insurers
      c: build a wall of fire resistant bricks between the properties.

      • July 2, 2021 9:19 am

        Advise your neighbours to seek legal advice after informing them of the fire risks now becoming widely reported.

    • Broadlands permalink
      July 2, 2021 3:18 pm

      Andrew… “Another under-reported fact is that the content of an EV battery is highly toxic.”

      The same goes for solar panels. They leak toxic materials and governments are wanting to subsidize the construction of acres and hectares of these things.

  7. Will Davis permalink
    July 1, 2021 8:15 pm

    171 sciantist have calculated that the CO2 emmited in manufacturing of an ‘etctric’ vierchule is double previously thought (WUWT) report!.
    Look on the bright side! It’s a much closer estimate than the effect of CO2 on world temperatures.

  8. PaulM permalink
    July 1, 2021 8:33 pm

    I hope they used a Co2 fire extinguisher…

  9. Penda100 permalink
    July 1, 2021 8:35 pm

    I would really hate to be on a Eurotunnel shuttle in the same carriage with an EV if it went up in flames.

    • Tonyb permalink
      July 1, 2021 9:07 pm

      You must have been reading my mind. I checked at the eurotunnel web site and whilst LPG powered vehicles are banned, Ev’s are permitted, Gulp!

    • Gerry, England permalink
      July 2, 2021 9:41 am

      Same carriage? I don’t think I would want to be on the same train!!

      Eurotunnel are funny about carrying gas. On my first trips I was asked if I was carrying any and the answer was yes as I go on camping trips. So I had a label stuck on my wing mirror. then they stopped asking for some reason.

  10. July 1, 2021 9:17 pm

    A very dangerous “solution” for a non problem is illustrated in real life, or death.

  11. MikeHig permalink
    July 1, 2021 9:46 pm

    A few towns in Europe – Germany iirc – have banned EVs from underground carparks and there are moves to ban charging them (when most fires occur) in garages that are part of housing.

  12. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    July 1, 2021 10:01 pm

    And there’s more …
    on the radio tonight they were discussing/promoting e-cars. They were saying they want these things to be recharged using electicity from renewables. All recharging payments by card. So bye bye cash. Plus if an average house is fitted with a heat pump then the electric circuitry will not be able to cope with both operating at the same time.

    The government are aiming to make some major changes to our lives.

    All the e-vehicle talk on the same day. Just three weeks before they give the unmask signal (which I had always thought wasn’t going to be determined by date).
    This’ll be the launch of the Green New Scam then …

    The Bottom Line-Rolling out electric vehicles.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000xfhr

  13. John Hultquist permalink
    July 2, 2021 5:29 am

    Billions of dollars are being thrown at these issues. And solutions are coming – real soon now!
    Seriously, things will get better – – after millions of faulty vehicles are on the road.
    The climate won’t care, and neither do I.

    • July 2, 2021 6:53 am

      You seem to have more faith, with tongue in cheek, in the effectiveness of spending “billions of dollars”than they can often achieve, witness wave power, cold fusion developments for electricity generation, better batteries and many tragically failing military campaigns.

      These motor disasters are a life-costing outrage which says nothing for the authorities’ maintenance of automobile safety standahrds.

      Perhaps costly lawsuits might promote safety.

      The basic problem lies in a completely futile, even insane, pressure to “save the planet” from climate changes, as you clearly imply.

      Even safe electric cars would be irrelevant to that misguided objective..

  14. Stonyground permalink
    July 2, 2021 7:41 am

    I’ve noticed that TV ads for the various car manufacturers are now almost exclusively pushing their fully electric offerings. I’m not sure what the reasoning is, they produce petrol, diesel and hybrid cars too but only advertise the fully electric.

    • Jordan permalink
      July 2, 2021 9:50 am

      Volkswagen cannot get their hands on used cars. The forecourt of my local dealership is standing nearly empty. I snapped up a second hand Polo for my daughter to learn to drive, and the salesman followed me for a “polite chat” about my 3yo Golf R. The second hand price he mentioned was nearly the same as I paid for it.
      He did not give reasons, so I cannot firmly link it to EV’s. The shortage could be related to VW production (maybe Covid has bunged-up the supply chain) or imports (Brexit nonsense).

  15. Chaswarnertoo permalink
    July 2, 2021 7:50 am

    Come home in a real fire, buy a lecky car…

    • Jordan permalink
      July 2, 2021 9:56 am

      Our house has an integral garage. The roof is double-lined to withstand a fuel fire for at least 1 hour. I won’t have an EV in there, if there would be problems extinguishing a fire.

      And there is a whole debate waiting to get underway about EVs in public car parks, and . underground carparks.

      https://www.motorbiscuit.com/fire-danger-underground-parking-lot-bans-electric-vehicles/

      The insurance industry is unlikely to take the matter lightly.

  16. Stonyground permalink
    July 2, 2021 8:01 am

    There is an interesting thread about EVs here:

    https://www.timworstall.com/2021/07/idiot-idea-of-the-day/

  17. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    July 2, 2021 8:43 am

    Apparently the govermment now want to ban adverts for I.C.E. vehicles along with salty crisps and having any fun or freedom of choice.
    Departments are working on it now.

    The Tesla batteries are twice as dence as a batteries manufactured by Japanese owned Envision AESC, the design aimed at Leafs but both give cause for concerned regarding lithum fires.
    Causes maybe due to the wiring coming into contact with metal work thus earthing out the battery. Another cause of fire is during charging when a malfunction causes overheating.
    So owners of lithum powered motors who park their vehicles in garages attached to the house may find their home insurance increasing.
    Another concern is the almost silent rapid acceleration that’ll have to be well managed around pedestrians particularly. E-vehicles are not without their faults to say the least.

    • Jordan permalink
      July 2, 2021 10:00 am

      To increase range and power, without losing it on increased mass and volume, energy density needs to increase.
      Increasing energy density goes hand-in-hand with increasing potential for fire and explosion.

  18. Gerry, England permalink
    July 2, 2021 9:43 am

    Going back to dealing with a battery car fire – if there is no risk of it spreading, I can’t see the point of wasting hundreds of gallons of water trying to put it out. It is a write off anyway so just let it burn under supervision.

    • Dave Andrews permalink
      July 2, 2021 2:44 pm

      I believe they water it to keep the temperature down until the fire burns itself out rather than in an attempt to put the fire out.

  19. MrGrimNasty permalink
    July 2, 2021 11:34 am

    Christine – I always knew Musk was doing the work of the Devil.

  20. Andrew Allen permalink
    July 2, 2021 10:17 pm

    Reminds me of the Johannesburg fire department who recently sprayed a burning bay window VW kombi with water. As the magnesium engine was already burning it made the fire an appointment much more intense as they discovered how the Luftwaffe designed and later the RAF copied their incendiary bombs 🙂

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