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Green mania hits the wall of nothingness

July 12, 2021

By Paul Homewood

 

 

Sooner or later all of the Alice in Wonderland Net Zero schemes will end up hitting the wall of reality.

David Wojick offers the Stateside view:

 

 

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It is now clear that none of Biden’s radical green promises are going to be kept. More broadly the wild green fantasies are going nowhere. There will be some action, but nothing much.

None, nowhere, nothing much — welcome to the wall of nothingness. I for one am celebrating it, at least for now. The fight is not over by any means, but it is going pretty well.

The Green New Deal is dead in the water, maybe even sunk out of sight. Its $10 trillion a year is a glaring fantasy. There is no prospect of a gruesome Great Reset, nor for the incredibly stupid Building Back Better. These draconian slogans are trash, for the next few years anyway. The called for Wrenching Social Reconstruction is not in the offing. We can all breath a little easier.

Nor are we rushing toward the impossible zero electric power emissions by 2030. In fact our coal burn is rebounding to an estimated 600 million tons a year. Speaking of trillions, that is 1.2 trillion pounds of coal.

There is likely to be some big green spending, code named “infrastructure”, but building stuff is not social change. After all, Republicans like pork too.

Here the big fight is not so much what to build as how to pay for it? For example, the Republicans want electric vehicles to pay their fair share of highway fix ups. Since they pay no fuel taxes they need their own tax system. The green Dems think EVs should get a free ride, literally, all in the name of stopping climate change. Hence the standoff.

The Dems want to tax corporations, gleefully ignoring the fact that poor people buy a lot from them, so they are taxing the poor. They think corporations are some sort of rich people. Jeff Bezos and Amazon are actually very different entities.

I am very curious to see how EV charging stations fare in the infrastructure game. How the Feds can fund them is something of a puzzle. Maybe just more silly tax credits, with grid scale batteries thrown in. We are already wasting huge sums making wind farms and solar slabs into lucrative tax shelters (for the rich). EV charging and big batteries fit right in, right? Green stuff that would never be built otherwise.

The greens have to get something, after all, given that a lot of people believe their nonsense. That they get nothing is itself a fantasy, one I choose not to join.

So the Dems might go the “budget reconciliation” (BR) route, bypassing the filibuster and leaving compromise with the Reps behind. In a way BR makes sense because it is limited to tax and spend, which the Dems are very good at. The good news is that major new policies cannot be made under BR. And they only get one a year, something the news never mentions.

So for example the physically impossible Federal Zero-Emissions Electricity Standard, introduced in March with no chance of passage by itself, cannot be sneaked through on a BR bill. At least not legally, but hey, this is Congress.

The climate alarmists are already howling about nothing serious happening. Music to my ears. All the really bad green stuff is well off the table. I can watch the game with interest instead of outrage. That is something of a pleasure, because in an important sense my side is winning. Nothingness is here to stay.

https://www.cfact.org/2021/06/23/green-mania-hits-the-wall-of-nothingness/

52 Comments
  1. 2hmp permalink
    July 12, 2021 10:18 am

    I hope nothingness is catching. As Lord Monckton said. ‘If there is not a problem have the courage to nothing’. Sweet nothing.

    • Chaswarnertoo permalink
      July 13, 2021 9:41 am

      Dont just do something, stand there. President Reagan.

  2. HotScot permalink
    July 12, 2021 10:43 am

    This will come as a blow to No.10. Will it drive Princess Nut Nut to divorce Boris because she’s not getting her way?

    • July 12, 2021 11:11 am

      Don’t think so, she seems to enjoy the association with power; as do a lot of very sad individuals who really need to get a life. She might withdraw from her bedroom duties, which will upset the porker..??

      • David Pounder permalink
        July 12, 2021 11:29 am

        Great comment – cheered me up this morning! ‘The porker’ – priceless.

      • July 13, 2021 7:25 am

        Delighted to hear that 🙂

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      July 12, 2021 1:54 pm

      “This will come as a blow to No.10.” Makes you wonder what the initials BJ stand for!

      • Chaswarnertoo permalink
        July 13, 2021 8:28 am

        Mr Nut Nut PM.

  3. T Walker permalink
    July 12, 2021 10:50 am

    The only question worth asking is

    Will reality fully hit over net zero before, or after we are bankrupt.??

    • Gerry, England permalink
      July 12, 2021 11:24 am

      I see the Tories are back-pedalling on the gas boiler ban which would be one of the stupid measures that would hit peoples’ pockets very hard. As one observer has commented, why would you spend huge amounts of money to buy technology that will cost you much more to be colder.

      • July 12, 2021 11:28 am

        How amazing that all those brainy politicians and eco loons didn’t come up with an answer to that very pertinent question!

  4. Gerard permalink
    July 12, 2021 11:01 am

    Covid has shown us that the CO2 increase is mostly natural. Although lockdowns have dramatically reduced human emissions, the CO2 concentrations measured at Mauna Loa have not shown any slowdown.

    In any case, the push to Net Zero has nothing to do with the climate but everything to do with destroying Western economies. Unfortunately our political leaders are what Lenin called “useful idiots’.

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      July 12, 2021 3:16 pm

      Covid didn’t dramatically reduce emissions, it was more fits and starts, but a small reduction in 2020 overall – the HIGH end of estimates is -7.5%, far too small to make a noticeable dent in the rate of increase even if man were entirely responsible. It would only amount to 1 or 2 tenths of a PPM – swamped by inter-annual variability.

      • Mike Jackson permalink
        July 13, 2021 1:35 pm

        The difficulty is in trying to sort the natural (sheep) CO2 from the anthropogenic (goats). The last figure I saw had human-caused CO2 at around 3% of the total which implies that we could all stop emitting any for a week and Mother Nature wouldn’t even notice. How the scientivists and their useful idiots in the media can even start to blame weather changes on humanity beggars belief!

  5. July 12, 2021 11:12 am

    And please can the UK follow the USA, as we do in most things?

  6. John Cullen permalink
    July 12, 2021 11:35 am

    I am afraid that with COP 26 in Glasgow just months away there are plenty of costly and economically destructive policies that UK politicians can and will inflict upon the public. After all, don’t Boris and friends have to have some tasty green morsels to placate the greenies during that jamboree? For example, I read in the last few days that the policy to ban gas boilers is simply delayed rather than cancelled.

    Regards,
    John.

    • Vernon E permalink
      July 12, 2021 3:38 pm

      John; this is controversial and I have seen hints of it before. The only definite I have seen is that new gas boilers will be banned. Is there acually a reference to all gas boilers (leaving aside the nonsense about hydrogen. This could also be implied to mean that the gas network will be shut down (eg no gas fire for supplementary heating). Its a small step to suggesting that IC engines will be banned. What?

      • Chaswarnertoo permalink
        July 13, 2021 9:43 am

        They can eff the effin effety eff off!

  7. July 12, 2021 11:45 am

    Looking at Boris’ 10-point plan for a Green Industrial Revolution, there is only one which makes any sense (financial or otherwise), and it is delivering new and advanced nuclear power.

  8. Ray Sanders permalink
    July 12, 2021 11:50 am

    Wind output (Europe wide) has flatlined since last Thursday – weather forecast shows bugger all wind right up to next Saturday and probably beyond. GB grid “carbon intensity” has been increasing for the last rolling 12 months and is now at levels of 4 years ago. Gong well these Green policies eh?
    In December 2010 Grid demand hit 61.5GW with no problems, yesterday there were worries of problems due to the Euros at half time with demand under 25GW!

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      July 13, 2021 8:35 am

      And yesterday evening, in faily southerly south-west France, in mid-July, I had to put a jumper on!

      When I drove down from London a week and a half ago, 80% or more of the100s of wind turbines were still.

      • Mike Jackson permalink
        July 14, 2021 10:07 am

        I’m back in long-sleeved shirts again. Another day like this and it’ll be vests and the central heating!!
        MeteoFrance is telling me that today’s forecast max for Macon is 10° below normal!

  9. StephenP permalink
    July 12, 2021 12:19 pm

    Look at the current UK electricity production from wind on gridwatch, 0.36 GW..
    If we had 100 times the number of wind generators, I.e. 100×10,900 = 1.09million, we would only just be keeping up with demand for electricity, 33.78GW.
    This situation has been like this for 5 days, and looks to continue for some time.
    Do the powers that be ever look at what is actually happening rather than believing what the wind proponents tell them.

    In case they think that batteries are the answer, this article is interesting

    http://Www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9775467/UKs-battery-farms-spark-fears-explosions.html

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      July 12, 2021 1:09 pm

      Hi Stephen, that article hugely understates the issue. This NALOPKT article highlights the dangers. I live not that far from the site noted in this article – it is a disaster just waiting to happen if it goes ahead.
      https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2020/03/20/uks-biggest-solar-farm-poses-grave-risk-to-public-health/

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      July 12, 2021 2:19 pm

      There was a couplr of sporting events on yesterday afternoon and evening which were of no interest to me so I assumed myself for some of the time by downloading this years data from Gridwatch and doing a bit very basic analysis.
      I just graphed daiy max and mins for Demand, and Gas, Wind and Solar production.

      Quite intersting, to me at least, The first day maximum wind exceeded max gas on any day was 19/20 February. It didn’t happen again until 12/14/15 March, March was a good month for wind as it happened again 25-29th March. Then 3 days early April, Three bursts of a couple of days in May. Since 21st May nothing much from wind, Maximum since 9.244GW on 11th June.
      What was also interesting was the minimum demand which varies between about 20 and 30GW, where maximum has varied between 27 and 48GW.
      I haven’t done any analysis of the time max and minimums happen but imagine minimums are early hours, when heating on winter nights is mainly by gas. When heat pumps are keeping us warm at night then minimum demand will be higher leaving less opportunity for storing surplus renewable electricity will be decreased.

      Sorry about the rambling, none of the family were particularly interested either.

      • Ray Sanders permalink
        July 12, 2021 2:46 pm

        As it happens Ben I am very interested! My personal view is that the simple solution is nuclear plus additional pumped storage hydro and you will do away with virtually all other sources. If you are not familiar with this here is a study a chap I know did that makes interesting reading. He is very well qualified in the industry.
        https://euanmearns.com/decarbonising-uk-power-generation-the-nuclear-option/
        p.s. I am half British/half Italian. Last night was a sort of win-win for me.

      • Ben Vorlich permalink
        July 12, 2021 11:04 pm

        Ray,
        Glad it’s not just me.
        I read Euan Mearns blog from time to time.

        I stopped watching football many years ago, I always preferred listening to radio commentary anyway. But gradually stopped that too. I always found the sound of tennis balls being hit irritating, but added grunts, squeals and screams are too much now.
        So now I find other things to entertain myself when the family are watching sport.

      • Adam Gallon permalink
        July 17, 2021 9:36 am

        Euan Mearn’s blog appears to be moribund, nothing since September 2019. His work on El Hierro was of great interest, renewables can’t even run a small island.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      July 13, 2021 8:54 am

      The additional capacity might have even worse generation. Have we already built in the most reliably windy areas?

  10. Eric Gilroy permalink
    July 12, 2021 12:27 pm

    Absolutely correct, check out this story in the Aberdeen local paper
    http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/opinion/columnists/eleanor-bradford/3280915/renewable-energy-homes-costly-reality-eleanor-bradford-opinion/ a ground source heat pump that costs £3k a year to run.

  11. Patsy Lacey permalink
    July 12, 2021 12:47 pm

    Tim Stanley is ramping up the scare story in today’s D. Telegraph https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/11/do-not-tackle-climate-change-now-will-get-bad-radicals-will/

    • alexei permalink
      July 12, 2021 5:15 pm

      And as usual, when the DT publishes anything controversial, no comments are allowed. However, I’ve just sent the Editor, Chris Evans, a letter of utter disgust with promise to unsubscribe

      • Slingshot permalink
        July 12, 2021 9:25 pm

        I have just complained, too, about Tim Stanley and included Matthew Lynn.

  12. MrGrimNasty permalink
    July 12, 2021 3:20 pm

    Who is running USA policy – it clearly isn’t Biden? He’s only fit for a care home, a lot of the time he goes vacant, can’t string a coherent sentence together ad-lib, barely even read a crib sheet.

    • Broadlands permalink
      July 12, 2021 4:23 pm

      MrGrim… The real answer to that question probably goes back to the physicist, NASA’s Jim Hansen…now retired. He started all of this global warming scaremongering while testifying to the US Congress on a very hot day in Washington. But, Christopher Booker’s “Group Think” takes it back even further. John Kerry, appointed by Uncle Joe, is now the point-man for US climate policy…aided and abetted by a whole “team” of green politicians and those elsewhere.

      • Chaswarnertoo permalink
        July 13, 2021 9:45 am

        Lurch is as thick as mince. Another puppet.

  13. Broadlands permalink
    July 12, 2021 4:11 pm

    What is missing is the proposed solution to this non-problem “crisis”? Net-zero requires negative emissions…CO2 captured snd stored, buried under pressure at hundreds of geological locations around the world. The problem is that the technology is unable to store even one ppm of CO2 by 2050. That’s almost 8,000 million metric tons of oxidized carbon. Trying to reach zero emissions by 2050 would mean economic ruin. All transportation (except a few EVs) would stop. No exploration, no refineries, no petroleum products! No asphalt for roads. That would be true “nothingness”.

    So…it ain’t gonna happen Joe, AOC, Bernie and Mr. Kerry…et al.

  14. markl permalink
    July 12, 2021 4:23 pm

    Virtue signaling about Net Zero, the GND, and all the other “Save the World From CC” musings will eventually die out because they can only lead to nothing better and life style devastation at worse. And the people know it.

  15. StephenP permalink
    July 12, 2021 5:14 pm

    Don’t you just love this!

    http://Www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9779781/Climate-change-Just-25-mega-cities-emit-52-cent-worlds-urban-greenhouse-gases.html

    What will our net zero achieve but kill our economy.

    • Phil O'Sophical permalink
      July 14, 2021 9:55 pm

      Exactly. That is the plan, that the naive ignorant politicians cannot see. They have no idea they are being played.

    • Chaswarnertoo permalink
      July 13, 2021 8:32 am

      And have no measurable effect on the the world. Total insanity.

  16. donteachin permalink
    July 12, 2021 9:17 pm

    Has anyone worked out the extra CO2 exhaled by the total human population today compared with that exhaled by the total population of pre- industrial times?

    • Crowcatcher permalink
      July 13, 2021 4:17 pm

      I did a calculation a few years ago and came up with the result that a healthy adult hominid exhales approximately half a tonne of carbon dioxide per year, multiply that by 8 billion you get about 4 billion tonnes of Co 2 per year for the whole population.
      I find that very, very few people understand that.
      So, if you want to “SAVE the planet” stop breathing!!!!!

  17. Ben Vorlich permalink
    July 12, 2021 10:57 pm

    I’m not sure if this is good or bad.
    Musk has ‘mesmerised’ UK over electric power, says JCB chair
    Lord Anthony Bamford says Tesla founder has blinded government officials to potential of hydrogen

    https://www.ft.com/content/0d691278-3933-436b-96fa-c9d0319cce86

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      July 13, 2021 1:11 am

      I personally hold an intense dislike of Musk who I feel is a fraudster and will eventually be caught out. He actually refers to fuel cells as “fool cells” but to quote Mandy Rice Davis “Well he would say that wouldn’t he”!
      Hydrogen and synthetic hydrocarbons (derived by using “recycled” existing atmospheric CO2) seems to be the Greens way out of the hole they have dug for themselves though they will not admit Nuclear is the best option even for manufacturing hydrogen by various means from water. Fascinatingly the media only ever want to talk about “Blue” hydrogen from fossil gas highlight the limitations of CCS so as to direct the focus on “Green” hydrogen from electrolysis and solely renewables. It would appear they have never heard of “Turquoise ” hydrogen which only leaves solid carbon as a residue. Clearly though as so many confuse carbon with carbon dioxide most reporters would get far too confused.
      https://fsr.eui.eu/between-green-and-blue-a-debate-on-turquoise-hydrogen/
      Interestingly far and away the best assessment of the future of hydrogen that I have come across is from the World Nuclear Association. A lot of reading but very interesting
      https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/energy-and-the-environment/hydrogen-production-and-uses.aspx

      • Malcolm Skipper permalink
        July 14, 2021 10:32 am

        Thanks, Ray. Two interesting articles with enough data to allow some basic calculations at scale.

      • MikeHig permalink
        July 15, 2021 4:11 pm

        Ray,
        Wrt to technicolour hydrocarbons, I am looking forward to following the evolution of “Blue” oil.
        This is oil produced by enhanced recovery techniques using CO2 – and thus sequestering it. Although this has been in widespread use for decades, it seems folk are only just waking up to the green credentials.
        One company is now touting its oil as “carbon-negative” (Blue) since more CO2 (from industrial sources) is sequestered in its recovery than is generated in the production, refining, distribution and consumption of the oil.
        Seems like a multiple win-win-win to me. The more blue oil we consume, the more we help to “save the planet”.

  18. Phoenix44 permalink
    July 13, 2021 8:31 am

    Glad to see someone making the distinction between taxing Amazon, a legal fiction that cannot be “rich” and its shareholders. If only the Left took the trouble to understand what they attack…

  19. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    July 13, 2021 11:46 am

    Regarding climate change, net zero and all the rest. It is now as it’s always been – info wars.

  20. StephenP permalink
    July 13, 2021 1:11 pm

    Maybe if we stopped buying ANYTHING from China it would have as great an impact on CO2 emissions as the UK going to net zero.

  21. Harry Passfield permalink
    July 13, 2021 5:24 pm

    Good to see that Gov Newsom in CA has decided to relax rules on FF power so that the state can get through the heatwave without blackouts. Funny how flexible his environmental beliefs are when push comes to shove.

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