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Ironbridge–The Birthplace Of Climate Change!

October 17, 2021
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By Paul Homewood

h/t Ian Magness/David Bishop

Now the Ironbridge Museum has gone woke!

 

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Ironbridge Gorge is best known as the birthplace of the industrial revolution. But the Unesco World Heritage Site is also considering adopting the moniker “birthplace of climate change”.

The head of the site’s 10 museums, on the edge of Telford, Shropshire, told The Sunday Telegraph that he wanted to teach visitors about Britain’s role in global warming and showcase the district as an example for transitioning to clean manufacturing.

Ironbridge was “the Silicon Valley of its day” and made Britain the leading economic power of its age, said Nick Ralls, of the Ironbridge Gorge Museum Trust.

“The other side of that same coin is that the iron smelting experiments happening in the gorge really signalled the beginning of pollution. It was those early beginnings that lead … to pollution that’s still happening today.”

The museums are updating their displays to include descriptions of how the innovations pioneered in the area led not only to the modern economy but to climate change. That includes considering making use of the phrase “birthplace of climate change”.

“It’s an evocative phrase to use and one which we’re thinking through carefully,” he said, “ [but] if we use that phrase we need to follow it up with action”.

The museums will also look to incorporate the legacy of the Cop26 climate summit into their exhibits.

The trust is among a number of industrial heritage institutions across Britain that are having to confront changing attitudes to the country’s history of heavy industry and pollution.

The National Mining Museum of Scotland and the Summerlee Museum of Scottish Industrial Life are among those putting on special events for Cop26, which is being held in Glasgow next month.

Mr Ralls told The Telegraph that Telford and the Ironbridge Gorge area showed how industrial areas could move with the times and meet demands from the likes of Greta Thunberg for action.

“The gorge itself and Telford is a good example of a success story of how a district has reinvented itself. It was attached to all these old polluting processes and it’s moved on and is at the cutting edge of technology and industrial development.”

Telford is now home to AceOn, a battery technology and energy storage company, while hi-tech trains are being tested in the area.

Ironbridge’s industrial heritage began in the first decade of the 18th century, when the experiments of Abraham Darby in Coalbrookdale led him to develop the method of smelting iron using coking coal instead of charcoal, producing a superior and cheaper metal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/10/17/warm-regards-ironbridge-gorge-birthplace-climate-change/

 

I cannot understand what is wrong with simply presenting history to visitors, who I suspect have little interest in being lectured to. I have been to Ironbridge several times, and each time I leave inspired by the achievements of those days.

This latest news coincides with Greta’s latest attack, which singles out Britain, because “we started climate change”. Colin Brazier and David Starkey hit back on GB News:

 

 

The Telegraph piece talks about having to confront changing attitudes to the country’s history of heavy industry and pollution.

But as with so much woke nonsense nowadays, the public at large do not share these changing attitudes. At the end of the GB News video, they show the result of their poll:

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OK, this may be biased towards GB News viewers, but I suspect a national poll would produce a similar result.

75 Comments
  1. October 17, 2021 5:43 pm

    Paul:
    Tend to agree with you about the poll being more widely representative of Joe Public’s view of the world. It is a damning reflection of the gap between the so-called intelligentsia and the rest of us. It looks too much like Brexit all over again, but no bets on whether we’ll get to have a say on this one, though.
    KUTGW
    Cheers – John

  2. PaulM permalink
    October 17, 2021 5:46 pm

    I have always thought that finely crafted engineering was among the finest art human beings could create.
    I suppose oil painting will be banned soon if these simpletons get their way. I do despair sometimes.

    • October 17, 2021 6:03 pm

      Time to dismantle the UN and its satellite’s What god comes from them?

  3. October 17, 2021 5:56 pm

    Meanwhile hundreds of tons per hour of all sorts of nasties are being pumped into the atmosphere out of the eruption on the Canaries, apparently unknown to the rest of the world. Perhaps we should send Greta there to bung the hole up.

    • In The Real World permalink
      October 17, 2021 6:27 pm

      The volcanic eruptions are just another part of the natural CO2 from the world .
      .But the whole of the UKs CO2 emissions make up just 0.000012% of the total atmosphere ..

      Does seem funny that none of the media or politicians will ever mention this .

      A bit off topic . Have heard the the BBC are doing a program called ” The Trick “, about the Climategate Emails .
      Any bets that they will try to claim that the Emails never existed ..

      • October 17, 2021 8:25 pm

        “In the Real World”
        I’ve got my complaint in to the BBC about “the Trick” before seeing the programme (you’re allowed to do that) pointing out that, since they’re calling the email leak “cyberterrorism” and blaming “denialists,” if they name any sceptics they could be up for defamation.

      • Adam Gallon permalink
        October 18, 2021 8:20 am

        Oh, looking at the previews, “Mike’s Nature Trick” will receive a clean bill of health, no mention of any of Steve McIntyre’s analyses, all due to Russian hackers …….

      • Gerry, England permalink
        October 18, 2021 11:20 am

        TV Choice gets off to a bad start by describing it as a ‘One-off fact-based drama’ – really? On the BBC? Then goes on the say that Jones and his team ‘had their work hacked by climate-change deniers, who then tried to claim the academics were faking evidence to discredit their data.’ the good ol’ Phil and his wife in the face of ‘unjustified persecution’ battle to exonerate him.

        The police never found any evidence of hacking but it was a good cover for the truth that an honest person worked at the CRU at UEA and had leaked the information.

        And if the BBC isn’t pouring out enough bullshit in the run up to COP later on BBC2 is Climate Change Goes On Trial, saying it is ‘a look at one of the most pressing issues of out time.’ It isn’t but the insane reaction to it most certainly is.

      • October 18, 2021 3:13 pm

        The Radio Times has an article about it, 100% Priesthood Approved. My bet is that in the phrase “Trick to Hide the Decline” the most blatant word “Hide” will be ignored, the straw-man “Trick” will get shot down in triumph. Jones mentions BEST as vindication, distracting away from the main focus, which was proxy temperatures.

    • Ian Johnson permalink
      October 17, 2021 7:11 pm

      Cast a virgin into a volcano?

    • Is it just me? permalink
      October 17, 2021 7:11 pm

      Yes – shove her head first down the hole. Her head & trap are both so big that should plug it for about the next 100 years…!

  4. October 17, 2021 6:15 pm

    Ironbridge was “the Silicon Valley of its day”

    Now wants to be the silly con valley of today.
    – – –
    Greta’s latest attack, which singles out Britain, because “we started climate change”.

    Ignorance. The end of the Little Ice Age, which itself was ‘climate change’, preceded modern warming. The modern solar grand maximum is probably over, or almost over, now.

  5. David permalink
    October 17, 2021 6:15 pm

    With all the people who are at least sceptical about “Climate Change” I do not understand why no one has so far formed an organised group or political party to question or deny this non sensical “religion”.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      October 17, 2021 6:24 pm

      Biden – is the answer (which is not, 81 Million).

    • October 17, 2021 8:28 pm

      I propose starting the Monster Raving Climate Rationalists Party. Even if we got few votes, it would force Charles and Will to shut up for constitutional reasons.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      October 18, 2021 9:06 am

      Both the Heritage Party and Reform UK are worth a look.

  6. LeedsChris permalink
    October 17, 2021 6:15 pm

    There is literally a type of insanity that has affected any agency and person in authority in our country – all our institutions. I feel I have to ‘pinch’ myself. Have I woken up(!) in a parallel universe…. What other culture or people at any time in history have shown such self-loathing?

    • October 17, 2021 8:33 pm

      The Xhosa in the 1830s when a small virgin influenced by an older relative persuaded the tribe to kill all their livestock in order to placate the spirits to get the British out. Thousands died before the British managed to save the rest and bring them to their senses. We’d do the same for Extinction Rebellion wouldn’t we?

      • October 18, 2021 12:16 am

        Not me.

    • October 17, 2021 9:46 pm

      Religion, the Western 21st century edition….reproducing all of the bullcrap of bankrupt religions of times gone by.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      October 18, 2021 9:11 am

      Mao’s Cultural Revolution was a period of utter insanity, the Year Zero of Pol Pot was self-destruction on a nationwide scale. Hitler’s final 12-18 months when Germany had lost the War but he decided therefore Germany should perish completely – 1 million Germans died in the last five months of the war. You need totalitarian control of society to achieve such monstrous and lunatic destruction, as Biden, Johnson and others now seek.

  7. Harry Passfield permalink
    October 17, 2021 6:21 pm

    OK – Ironbridge was ‘the birthplace of climate change’.
    So, who the hell was responsible for the Little Ice-Age?
    And if they could replicate it then perhaps Greta and co would be happy. (Nah. Nothing would make them happy except for the CC extant).

  8. Penda100 permalink
    October 17, 2021 6:28 pm

    Could we not find a suitable island where the Thunberg and her followers could experience life in a pre-industrial revolution society? No electricity or mobile phones or modern medicine and grow your own food or starve. And the only way off the island is to build a raft with only stone tools. Perhaps they might then better appreciate the fruits of progress and man’s ingenuity.

    • October 17, 2021 6:41 pm

      Pol Pot’s Cambodia in the 1970s anyone?

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      October 17, 2021 9:38 pm

      Scotland has many currently uninhabited islands which at one time supported a small population.

      For example Vallay is an uninhabited tidal island in the Scottish Outer Hebrides. It can be reached from North Uist by a long beach at low tide. Once the island supported a population of nearly sixty people. Its best-known inhabitant was the archaeologist Erskine Beveridge. The island is also known for its sea birds and for prehistoric monuments.

      Several of my ancestors on my paternal grandmother’s family were born on Vallay.

      It’s at a similar latitude to her home in Sweden, probably a bit damper and milder so should give a good idea of home difficult survival would be in her homeland without fossil fuels. The locals might even welcome her input on better ways to survive.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        October 18, 2021 11:23 am

        Sounds good but I think the ability to escape at low tide is a flaw.

      • dave permalink
        October 18, 2021 1:26 pm

        “…ability to escape at low tide is a flaw.”

        One day, tell her the rising sea has severed the link and she can
        not leave. If she says her eyes beg to differ inform her that she is
        a denialist.

        A proper understanding of The Industrial Revolution enlightens one to the subtle fact that it did not begin as a single invention of a Chosen People.
        Rather, the various necessary innovations occurred in a number of distinct, regions of Europe which learned rapidly from each other.

        It HAPPENED that SEVERAL of these regions were located in Britain, and this gave the ILLUSION that the British people had a special relation to Industry. That this was an illusion was not apparent to their rulers, even a hundred years later,, when they puzzled why the Germans and the Yanks had suddenly got so good at what they imagined was a special skill of Britain.

    • D Hynes permalink
      October 18, 2021 11:30 am

      South Georgia?

  9. matt dalby permalink
    October 17, 2021 7:32 pm

    Surely Abraham Darby should be celebrated as an environmental hero for doing away with the use of charcoal in iron smelting and thus preventing massive deforestation (at least until Drax undid his good work and switched back to burning wood instead of coal).
    I thought greenies were meant to love trees not demonise someone who helped save loads of them.

    On a different topic, some of the latest long range weather forecasts are suggesting that there could be snow in Glasgow for the start of COP26. To get sea level snow, even in Scotland, at the start of November would be quite unusual and highly amusing to see people protesting about global warming in unseasonal snow. Sadly weather forecasts 2 weeks in advance are fairly unreliable, but lets hope this one does prove correct.

    • October 17, 2021 9:45 pm

      It’s the Al Gore effect again!

      • Stuart Hamish permalink
        October 18, 2021 3:31 pm

        Its the 1984 effect Paul . The Orwellian clock has struck thirteen at another once respectable institution …. Nick Rolls of the Ironbridge Gorge Museum Trust : ” the iron smelting experiments happening in the gorge really signaled the beginning of pollution .It was those early beginnings that lead …to pollution that’s still happening today ”

        What ahistorical revisionist nonsense. Human industrial activity and heavy metal pollution – namely lead emissions traced in Arctic ice cores – preceded the Industrial Revolution by centuries all the way back to the late Bronze Age expansion of the Phoenicians in the Mediterranean through to the central European Hallstat Culture , the empires of ancient Carthage , Greece and Rome , noticeably spiking during the reign of Charlemagne and the Carolingian era ..Atmospheric lead pollution emanating from the mining processing and smelting of silver – lead ores rapidly escalated rapidly after 1500, three hundred years before the Industrial Revolution . Lead pollution levels actually plunged because of climate change political disruptions and lethal pandemics …Look at the downturns in the chronology associated with the Late Antiquity cooling and the Justinian Plague , then the onset of the Little Ice Age and the Black Death in the 14th century.. The silly moniker : ” Ironbridge the birthplace of climate change ” is laughable …The industrial transformation of Ironbridge gorge did not signal the beginning of pollution Nor did the Industrial Revolution in the United Kingdom – confluent with the end of the Dalton Solar Minimum and declining cosmic dust indices that peaked in the 17th and 18th centuries proximate to the intense chilling of the Little Ice Age – start climate change .. The resurgent warming of the 19th century was predominantly natural and wonderfully beneficial for human civilization . Just as it is today .

        iflscience.com/environment/pollution-in-arctic-ice-tells-the-story-of-the-black-death-wars-famines-and-riches/

      • Stuart Hamish permalink
        October 18, 2021 3:58 pm

        Reference : ” IFL Science , ‘Pollution In Arctic Ice Tells The Story Of the Black Death , Wars Famines And Riches ” , 9 July , 2019

      • Stuart Hamish permalink
        October 18, 2021 4:02 pm

        Reference : ” IFL Science , Pollution In Arctic Ice Tells The Story Of The Black Death , Wars , Famine And Riches , 9 July , 2019

    • dave permalink
      October 18, 2021 1:45 pm

      It has been decreed that anything and everything that happens – snow flurries included – is unprecedented in the history of the Universe, and is a direct result of an atom of carbon [sic] jumping out of Pandora’s box.

  10. Robert Christopher permalink
    October 17, 2021 7:36 pm

    COP26 is creeping up, ever so slowly, and I wonder whether all those who are climbing aboard the Green Express (battery powered, of course 🙂 ), pleased that they have done so before the big occasion, will live to regret it by Christmas.

    • October 17, 2021 9:37 pm

      Will we be treated to all the other bullcrap of religions over the ages? Sackcloth and ashes perhaps from the morons in XR or even more cabaret with them lashing themselves with barbed chains? The parallels between the proclamations and protestations of the “believers” and medieval religion are profound!

  11. October 17, 2021 8:36 pm

    Spent a lovely fortnight at Ironbridge. There was a superb view of the cooling towers of the nearby power station over the valley.

    • Martin Brumby permalink
      October 18, 2021 7:30 am

      No longer…

  12. Jim Le Maistre permalink
    October 17, 2021 9:01 pm

    NOTHING . . . humans can or will ever do can stop Nature in her cycles! This is her cycle and we are blaming humans because it is easy, convenient and it fits the time lines. But Nature alone will deal the blow that ends the warming. That day is closer than we think. The year 535 brought an end to nearly 700 years of warming, ‘The Roman Warming Period’. Krakatoa, an Indonesian Volcano followed the very next year by Ilopango El Salvador, brought on what is now called ‘The Dark Ages’ that lasted about 350 years. 1258 the end of ‘The Middle Ages Warming Period’ was instigated by Samalas a Volcano in the Philippines. This was the first of 17 Volcanoes that raged on for 700 years and brought the world to the second coldest moment in 10,000 years. that year was 1750 . . . the year we start studying Climate Change . . . the End of ‘Pre-Industrial times’ . . . The Years that followed James Watt and Mathew Bolton brought true ‘Evolution’ to humanity and the world as we know it today. Scape goats are everywhere in site . . . History and Nature are calling . . . will anyone listen ?

  13. Andrew Harding permalink
    October 17, 2021 9:09 pm

    Birthplace of global warming?

    No, abortion of common sense!

  14. October 17, 2021 9:32 pm

    “the gorge really signalled the beginning of pollution. It was those early beginnings that lead … to pollution that’s still happening today.”

    That is a profoundly ignorant statement made completely out of context. CO2 is and never has been “pollution”.

    When you are allowing the ignorant and incoherent ramblings of people like this into the public domain, people who are either so morally corrupt or profoundly ignorant of the subject they are writing about, it is painful clear to anyone with a basic scientific education that the Enlightenment is officially dead!

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      October 17, 2021 9:47 pm

      Many years ago I read somewhere that traces of lead from the Roman period are detectable in the Greenland ice. Not sure how true that is, but they did use a lot of lead.

  15. Julian Flood permalink
    October 17, 2021 9:42 pm

    Before the iron masters made the modern world there was only muscle power. Without Ironbridge London would have ground to a halt, everyone up to their oxters in horse exhaust. Sewage would have flooded the streets of every town when rainfall was higher than usual. Cloth would have been so expensive that the poor would have been dressed in rags.

    But… Mechanised farming would not have increased the run off of dissolved silica into oceans around the world, advantaging silica-shelled diatoms over DMS producing plankton so reducing cloud cover and starting global warming. The Haber Process would not be fixing so much nitrogen that we are destabilising the entire ocean ecology, oil would not be spilled on every body of water on the planet, suppressing wave aerosols, lowering albedo, forcing the plankton to use CCMs which leave a light C signal in the atmosphere…

    Etc. So global warming would never have been invented.

    JF

  16. Alan K permalink
    October 17, 2021 10:48 pm

    This evening on BBC News a Scots climate expert refers to “Global Heating”. Surely this is a feeble attempt to reflect more forcibly the seriousness of the world’s increasing average temperature. Perhaps “Global Roasting” would be nearer the mark!

  17. David Wojick permalink
    October 18, 2021 12:08 am

    On a related note:
    Clintel launches a new organization for climate imaging
    By David Wojick
    https://www.cfact.org/2021/10/16/clintel-launches-a-new-organization-for-climate-imaging/

    The beginning:
    In his lengthy video presentation, CLINTEL President Guus Berkhout proposes creation of a new analytical facility — the Laboratory of Climate Imaging, Int. — to look at climate data in a new way. He calls it “Climate Imaging”, but it is not about pictures. It is a combination of data re-ordering, transformation and visualization. He also uses the additive Int to make clear that LCI is not an Intergovernmental, but an International organization. And, last but not least, he proposes to use imaging as an extra tool in model validation and policy making.
    See the video here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Msy3sFneOdA

    Here is how Professor Berkhout explains it: “Imaging is making the invisible visible. It is about collecting measurements with the aim to extract information for the detection and visualization of the dynamic properties of complex systems. This is done without understanding yet the internal mechanisms. Knowing these properties is often enough to make important decisions on how to cope with system changes. This is particularly important when decisions are urgent and cannot be delayed until reliable models have been developed. In addition, he proposes to use imaging for the improvement of model verification and, ultimately, for the evaluation of the costs and benefits of climate policies. His slogan is: “Let us think differently, let us think the imaging way.”

    The core idea is that the climate debate is primarily focused on global averages – already for forty years – but global averaging minimizes the amount of information in the analysis. Huge amounts of detailed climate data disappear, being compressed into a single number, such as average global temperature over one, or even a few years.

    Professor Berkhout proposes to reverse this process, which he calls unfolding the averages. It is only in this detailed data that the actual causes of climate change can be determined.

    Much more in the article. Please share it.

    Let the data speak!

  18. October 18, 2021 12:25 am

    It’s also worth stepping back for a moment to consider the kind of scientific illiteracy (a well as the sheer lack of perspective) that lies behind a phrase like “the birthplace of climate change”.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      October 18, 2021 9:34 am

      The sheer stupidity is mind-boggling. Do they think people copied what started in Ironbridge because it was pollution or because it was a net benefit?

  19. Gamecock permalink
    October 18, 2021 2:44 am

    The Industrial Revolution raised 80% of the world’s population out of EXTREME poverty.

    Billions of people today owe their prosperity and their very existence to the Industrial Revolution. The evil Thunberg et al espouse cannot be over stated.

  20. John Hultquist permalink
    October 18, 2021 3:45 am

    I hope the signs get put up. Then in about 10 years they can be taken down and added to the existing exhibits.
    In the USA signs were put up at Glacier National Park forecasting all the glaciers would be gone by 2020. Oops!
    I wonder if they were destroyed, stored on site, or sent to a museum?
    You will need a record of this folly.

  21. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    October 18, 2021 7:35 am

    Seems a very one sided argument from this young woman.
    There has been a great deal of good that has taken place in the world as a result of what was learnt at Ironbridge.
    Young people questioning the status quo is normal and healthy. We all want a better world.
    Imagine a world that hadn’t had Vikings in it. It would be a different place.
    Greta still has time to learn everything is not clear cut. Not black and white, that there are many shades of grey as well.
    Personally, I wish William ‘the bastard’ had not come over and compiled The Doomsday Book. But until they invent a time machine I have had to learn how to live with the results of history.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      October 18, 2021 9:33 am

      The Normans abolished slavery in England as they hated the institution (unusual for Viking). In 1066 perhaps 10% of the people in England were slaves.

  22. Harry Passfield permalink
    October 18, 2021 8:37 am

    I see Prince William is prone to the same idiotic predictions as his father. According to the DM he told the Earthshot audience that ‘we only have ten years to save the planet.’
    Hand, meet forehead!

    • Gerry, England permalink
      October 18, 2021 11:25 am

      I was so sad to see Her Majesty getting caught up in this crap as I thought she was above it.

    • D Hynes permalink
      October 18, 2021 11:27 am

      It’s always around ten years.

  23. Phoenix44 permalink
    October 18, 2021 9:31 am

    Yes, pretty much every advance brings problems. Every intelligent adult knows this. Behaving as if fossil fuels are unique in this or that you’ve just discovered the paradigm is simply pathetic. I’d bet that if we had an alternate timeliness with no Industrial Revolution Greta would either never have been born or would gave died before she was five. Her future would truly have been stolen then.

  24. Gerry, England permalink
    October 18, 2021 11:34 am

    The Left always want to change history to meet their prejudices. I recall reading that the First World War was being labelled as the European Revolution to avoid the fact that Imperial Germany invaded Belgium and France. And how many times in Second World War programmes to we hear of the ‘Nazis bombing’ or the ‘Nazis sinking’ etc when it was the Germans. The vast majority of the German forces were just ordinary folk and not party members. Look at the hysterical reaction to any link to a past history of slavery while ignoring to modern slavery jobs that exist today in the clothing and food industries.

    • Dan permalink
      October 18, 2021 10:59 pm

      But you are guilty above of the thing you claim. You normalise a reaction to past slavery but co-opting modern slavery.

      Rewriting isn’t an uniquely left or right activity.

  25. Gamecock permalink
    October 18, 2021 11:46 am

    It is the prosperity from the Industrial Revolution that enables dear Greta to be so decadent as to attack that which keeps her alive.

    Should she succeed at her cause, it will kill her.

    The Climate Change movement is decadence on stilts.

    Fossil fuels will keep them comfortable at CoP26, as they plot how to get rid of fossil fuels.

    Cirrusly, bringing in diesel generators to charge electric cars is hilarious. The legacy press should be all over it, but they’ll do their best to hide it.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      October 18, 2021 2:39 pm

      Yes, without the Industrial Revolution she would either not exist, have died before she was five or be labouring from dawn to dusk in the fields to try and get enough food to eat. She should be thanking Britain thar we are now so wealthy we can indulge spoilt children as we do.

    • Lorde Late permalink
      October 20, 2021 8:29 am

      I like that!
      Decadence on stilts, makes a nice change from ‘smoke and mirrors’ or the ‘Emperors new clothes’.😂.

  26. It doesn't add up... permalink
    October 18, 2021 11:59 am

    After they slaughter visitor numbers they will need Fred Dibnah reincarnated to restore them, and sense.

  27. Brian Smith permalink
    October 18, 2021 12:07 pm

    Has the very authoritarian Greta Thunberg ever seen a picture of a 16th/17th century town? They were entirely wreathed in smoke from the chimneys of the middle classes, businesses etc burning coal for heating, cooking, fabrication and so on. This was the case in every northern European country. She is such a silly, very ignorant girl; should have spent more time in school I suppose.

    https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/smoke-of-london/smoke-of-london/00B471972D042AC976AF072CC4093A8B

  28. Lorde Late permalink
    October 18, 2021 1:13 pm

    So, we are now going to critisize one of mans greatest ( if not the) achievements instead
    of leaving it as a testemant to ingenuity and ability to solve problems, yes there was a degree of pollution but surely we wouldn’t have the society we have all enjoyed and benifited from today (exept for Greta of course).
    One wonders what mess was left around by the pyramid builders before the ‘Younger Dyras’ came along?

  29. SUSAN EWENS permalink
    October 18, 2021 2:54 pm

    Ironbridge may have been in at the beginning of air pollution but that is not “climate change”. The alarmist prtopgndists don’t know the difference between carbon particles (e.g. soot etc) and carbon dioxide – a clean, odourless, tasteless gas that existsonly as a trace gas in the atmosphere in the ratio of 4 molecules per 10,000.

  30. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    October 18, 2021 3:07 pm

    If those world changing developments had not taken place at Ironbridge how would engineers be able to ply their trade ?
    How would oil rigs of been constructed ? Out of bamboo ?
    How would they manufacture railway lines, drill bits, wood burners, steel oil drums, cars and ocean going tankers ?
    Without Mr. Darby and co. darling Greta would not of travelled the world, met with Presidents and various media celebs.
    Infact Greta – You’d be out of a job and who knows ? You might then even have to get your hands dirty and be sociable to people.
    Thank heavens for coal, oil and gas.

    • Crowcatcher permalink
      October 18, 2021 6:53 pm

      What I would like to see is Greta being made to grow her own food in a greenhouse in which she gets her heart’s desire of all the carbon dioxide having been removed.

  31. October 18, 2021 6:54 pm

    The Soviet propaganda storyboard circulated in 1960, showing the People’s Year 2016, made it explicitly clear that mercantilist criminals making illegal weapons would cause sharknados, climate warmunism and such. The video with subtitles was taken down but the anti-Second Amendment commercial is still findable.

  32. October 18, 2021 9:41 pm

    Perhaps we should nominate Ironbridge for the 18thC Earthshot prize, from that point in time we didn’t have to chop trees down to build things.

    I know the Romans perfected concrete, but we lost the skill to build with it and only got the skill back many centuries later.

    We are now losing the skill to create cheap energy to save the planet, even nuclear power is effectively banned.

    I hope Prince William gets good advice, as when £1million pounds is to be given away by the easily misled, the snake oil salesmen emerge.

  33. Dan permalink
    October 18, 2021 10:56 pm

    Woke is a commonly used term to highlight social injustice. It originated in the early 1930 though evidence has it going back further.

    Not sure what the opposition to such is l.

  34. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    October 19, 2021 9:35 am

    The first ironbridge built in the world is still standing – having survived a flood in 1795 and a earthquake at the end of the 19th century.
    This brilliant feat of engineering was completed by Abraham Darby III.
    The only painting of the bridge under construction is by a Swedish gentleman in 1779 named Elias Martin.
    Now, was he an artist or spy ?
    Interestingly – this painting was only discovered in Stockholm in 1997.

  35. Michael Boulton permalink
    October 19, 2021 9:48 am

    Mr Le Maistre you spelt Mathew Boulton incorrectly, look at my surname. Guess what!

    • October 19, 2021 1:15 pm

      So it is Michael not Mathew. Now we’ve got that straight what are your thoughts on this farce labelled as man made climate change ?

      • Jim Le Maistre permalink
        October 19, 2021 4:34 pm

        Matthew Boulton was James Watt’s Partner

        Climate Change IS happening but it is entirely a natural event.

        Today in what is described as ‘An Inter Glacial Period’, The Holocene, we are having a reprieve from the incessant Violence brought upon the Earth by Volcanoes. Planet Earth is warm for only the second time in 250 thousand years. This Warming Period permits Food Production in the Prairies, Europe and China. Places where 10 kilometers of Ice usually would stand. For little more than 10 thousand years Humanity has had it good. Life for 7 billion people is possible. A mere 25 million souls occupied Equatorial regions of the Earth when Volcanoes and Ice Ruled the World. Let us learn to give thanks to Global Warming and learn to respect Nature as the Supreme Ruler of our Climate and of true Climate Change on our Little Blue Planet.

        Volcanoes bring COLD climate change . . . Global Warming is the return to what I call ‘The Norm of Warm’.

  36. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    October 19, 2021 7:12 pm

    Thanks Jim (I mean that).
    It makes me uncomfortable when clever, hard working Quakers get a bad press.

  37. Jim Le Maistre permalink
    October 19, 2021 11:13 pm

    Planet Earth has been Warming since the lowest point of the ‘Little Ice Age’ in 1750 (Pre-Industrial Times). The 21st century has been the ‘Warmest on Record’. Glaciers in Greenland and the whole Northern Hemisphere are melting faster today than at any time since record keeping began. All these ‘Facts Are True’. What is missing from the Scientific discussion is the role of Nature. Why have all the interrelated moving parts including the chemistry and the physical dynamics of Water and Ice been left out of the discussion?

    Fact – Manmade CO2 represents 3% of total annual inputs to our Global Climate. Nature is responsible for 97% of Annual inputs of CO2 in our Global Climate. A 1% increase in natural CO2 of .97%, is 3 times more than a 10% increase in Man-Made inputs or .3%. That same 1% increase from Nature is 160% more than the 20% reduction or .6% proposed by the Paris Accord. Clearly, context is absent from the discussion surrounding Global Climate Change and the fact that Planet Earth is Warming. Nature’s role and the magnitude of that role, in context, is missing from the analysis in our current narrative on Climate Change. This data is drawn from IPCC graphs of CO2 emissions in the 1990’s.

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