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Greta Blames Britain For Climate Change

October 19, 2021
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By Paul Homewood

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According to Greta, Britain has a special responsibility for climate change, because we started the Industrial Revolution:

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She would obviously much prefer that we had all remained living in pre-industrial times. You know, those golden days, when you were lucky to live till you were thirty!

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When you were lucky to get to five years old:

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And when, despite a much smaller world population, millions died every year from famine:

 

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It is time to take off the kid gloves. Greta Thunberg is mentally ill.

The media should stop treating her as if she was some sort of latter day saintly prophet.

60 Comments
  1. Ian Wilkinson permalink
    October 19, 2021 10:27 am

    Why does a semi educated adolescent, sadly with some mental problems, merit such a wide audience? Her handlers must be very competent.

    • Andrew Harding permalink
      October 19, 2021 10:56 am

      It summarises the concept that a trace atmospheric gas, necessary for all life on Earth can cause mass extinction.

      Liars and fraudsters with a hidden agenda fuelled by ignorance.

      Their spokesperson is perfect for the job!

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      October 19, 2021 12:49 pm

      Because attacking what she says can be presented as an attack on an innocent child simply trying to save the world.

      As with every attempt at totalitarianism, there are some clever people involved.

  2. 2hmp permalink
    October 19, 2021 10:30 am

    Mentally ill is a bit of a harsh description. One could use the same term about some eco journalists or say John Bercow. The better term is that they are simply rather stupid.

    • Nick permalink
      October 19, 2021 1:35 pm

      I don’t think she is mentally ill (apart from perhaps the side-effects of being in the public eye), but I heard she has Aspergers – as are diagnosed a lot of kids these days

  3. George Herraghty permalink
    October 19, 2021 10:33 am

    GRETA?
    (Freely available on the internet)
    Hi All, I Thought you might be interested…This was sent by someone who was interested in knowing what’s what. And this is what he discovered………….
    “Having stumbled across an interview with Greta Thunberg’s captain of the sailing vessel that brought her across to New York, I was very surprised at what he said. He was flying back to Europe from New York and 3 others were flying from Europe to New York to sail the vessel back. So that is four flights to save her one flight. Obviously, a PR stunt. But it got me curious as to who the heck was paying for these flights? This is a quick synopsis of what I found out.

    1. She is backed by a number of Swedish/Swiss venture/vulture capital funds focused to investing in green technologies which are struggling to find companies to invest in. Most of these companies require initial government funding. The funds are owned by executives from a Swiss/Swedish industrial corporation with annual revenues of 27 billion dollars. You see their offices around Calgary as they are suppliers to the oilfield service industry as well as many others. Clearly this is a ploy to get government grants/ funding for these entities so that the venture capital funds can then invest and make a bunch of money.

    2. She was chosen from a number of young Swedish girls to represent their interests, trained and given information to start espousing because of course she has no scientific expertise herself. They wanted a female child as their symbol. She was the perfect spokesperson.

    3. A powerhouse marketing firm out of Germany was hired to design and implement a marketing strategy for her to gain worldwide attention. They did and it worked. She gained worldwide attention and addressed the UN. The 500 scientists, from around the world, who sent a letter to the UN did not gain an audience.

    4. She slammed my generation and generations previously. We stole her childhood. A script written for her by the German marketing firm. Her childhood is like it is because of the sacrifice of a previous generation, many of whom lie buried in fields in Europe.

    5. She then gets used again by Canadian political leaders for photo ops. Shame on our political leaders. The fact that she got face to face time with Trudeau should be abhorrent to Canadians.

    6. She leads a school protest march in Canada, where again photo op greedy politicians, take part. Her ability to protest rests solely with the sacrifice of other generations, including Edith Cavell, whom she chastises. If you don’t know who Edith Cavell is – then shame on what a lark our Canadian school system has become.

    This is what I found out. If anyone finds facts disputing this, I am all ears.”
    He goes on to add, “I am not against the concept of cleaning up the atmosphere: I am against the marketing methods used to promote industrial interests and lies for the sake of profit”

    • Redge permalink
      October 19, 2021 1:26 pm

      Links would b useful

    • Broadlands permalink
      October 19, 2021 1:43 pm

      “They wanted a female child as their symbol.”

      So, Greta is like a polar bear puppet? Who are the puppeteers who feed her what to say scientifically? Follow the money to the IPCC, NASA, NOAA, the Met Office? There has to be someone. She has no scientific background.

  4. grammarschoolman permalink
    October 19, 2021 10:36 am

    Greta love hath no man – or they shouldn’t, anyway.

  5. James Neill permalink
    October 19, 2021 10:37 am

    Greta is no more than a figurehead. I am more worried by those who are behind her whatever form of influence they exert. There would seem to be a PR campaign that is designed to influence COP26 and especially the hosts who are the UK. In the same vein but off topic the following article in the Daily Mail may pique a little interest here:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10104511/Climate-change-99-9-studies-agree-global-warming-mainly-caused-humans.html

    • October 19, 2021 11:21 am

      That is such. BS

    • Douglas Dragonfly permalink
      October 19, 2021 11:27 am

      Greta is more than a figurehead. She is an adult, who’s complicity in this sinister scare mongering amoungst young children must be stopped. It is nothing short of child abuse. Examples –
      Deep depression. Or –
      Young easily brainwashed minds can and do go onto to commit terrible atrocities. Take Hitler Youth or Pol Pot’s followers.

      A little examination finds huge hypocrisy. Example-
      Traveling by an extremely expensive catamatan comes at a cost to the environment. Even before thick chemical coatings, the molten glass for the fibres to construct the twin hulls have to be heated to 1340℃/2444℉. Then there is all the machinery that has to be manufactured, moved, powered and finally disposed of at end of life.To make such a craft.
      Selective, uninformed criticism is not difficult. Explaining to children why they are cold or why they loose loved ones because they weren’t able to have enough food, warmth or shelter is far more difficult.
      Greta’s death cult must be halted.

      • StephenP permalink
        October 19, 2021 1:11 pm

        How do you make fibreglass using electricity instead of natural gas?

    • Jack Broughton permalink
      October 19, 2021 12:15 pm

      There are thousands of “studies” published every day in support of the pseudo-science that is climate change / global warming. All rebuttals of the “science” are rejected immediately so the percentage is probably right: albeit meaningless, a bit like the 99% percent of Iraqis who regularly voted for Saddam Hussein!

    • Broadlands permalink
      October 19, 2021 1:56 pm

      Well of course. If humans are responsible for ferreting out this small amount of global warming since pre-industrial time, it must be our fault. But, real science is not done by votes so that is another meaningless study.

  6. arfurbryant permalink
    October 19, 2021 11:03 am

    Completely off topic Paul but I’ll bet you’re just itching to do a piece on the upcoming BBC programme ‘The Trick’ where it looks like they’re going to portray Phil Jones as a victim…

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      October 19, 2021 11:34 am

      Saw it last night….at least, the first 17 minutes. The final straw was the spad (I guess) briefing Jones that all the fossil-fuel industries (not just Exxon, then) knew about CC in the ’80s and hired all the best Climate Scientists to hide the fact. Words failed me. Also, Briffa was accorded the HS while Mann – to the point where I gave up – was nit mentioned.

      • Vic Hanby permalink
        October 19, 2021 12:17 pm

        This morning’s Times thought the programme too technical; I found it the reverse (I worked with CRU on a research project at the time). It was weak in not challenging ‘hiding the decline’ – apparently this is jargon only known to the in crowd, it really means divergence. athey didn’t explain why the tree ring calculations were OK for many hundreds of years then suddenly diverged and the excuses were woolly and unsubstantiated.

        The documentary on BBC2 that that followed it was a bit more objective, but not much.

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        October 19, 2021 12:52 pm

        Much of the climate movement is simply conspiracy theory nutters. That the BBC not only allows but encourages such conspiracy theories really is quite sad.

      • Redge permalink
        October 19, 2021 1:28 pm

        Was it just my understanding or did the Jones character admit to hiding the decline because or the divergence?

        Is this the first time or did I miss the original confession?

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        October 19, 2021 1:39 pm

        Dredge, he said, after much coaching, that the decljne was probably caused by things like the ozone depletion or atmosphere pollution….

        Where he missed the point (or the scriptwriter did) was that, if the proxies could be so far out once, then why not any other time.

      • It doesn't add up... permalink
        October 19, 2021 10:05 pm

        The scriptwriter is apparently an XR activist. Really the sort of thing they ought to put up a health warning about. Comments from several of those who were actively involved at Climateaudit show that it bears no relation to reality. I wonder if Steve MacIntyre might even be motivated enough to sue for the way he was portrayed. That of course would be deeply embarrassing for the BBC.

      • Redge permalink
        October 20, 2021 6:48 am

        Ah, ok, thanks HArry

    • October 19, 2021 11:39 am

      BBC iPlayer The Trick first broadcast last night ( 18 Oct ) here in the UK

      UK VPN required :

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0010s10/the-trick

      Conspiracy thriller based on the events of the ‘Climategate’ scandal in 2009. Professor Phil Jones and his team of climatologists at the University of East Anglia find that their work has been hacked by climate change deniers and turned into the first big fake-news story. The deniers and corporations with vested interests skillfully create the image of climate change as a conspiracy being perpetrated by academic scientists.

      Although an inquiry concludes that there was no case for Jones and his team to answer, it has taken a decade for the public perception of the veracity of climate change to recover.

      MG

    • Robin Guenier permalink
      October 19, 2021 11:53 am

      Not ‘upcoming’, it was last night. The Radio Times tells the ‘true story’: https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/drama/the-trick-bbc-true-story/

      • Micky R permalink
        October 20, 2021 1:58 pm

        Local TV news reported that the Climategate emails were “hacked” to “discredit the whole notion of climate change”. Once again, “climate change” is being confused with “dangerous manmade climate change”

    • Jack Broughton permalink
      October 19, 2021 7:50 pm

      Pure 1984. “Who controls the past…..” This is classical “bellyfeel and duckspeak” in Orwellian terms from the modern version of Minitru.e

  7. cookers52 permalink
    October 19, 2021 11:03 am

    A diagnosis of mentally ill is best left to those who know about such things.

    If everyone who had a belief in something where evidence was to the contrary, half the world would be diagnosed as mentally ill.

    Half the world genuinely believe in the supernatural, the other half don’t.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      October 19, 2021 10:08 pm

      It has been pointed out that her appearance and behaviour are consistent with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. Read about it and make your own mind up.

    • Micky R permalink
      October 20, 2021 1:43 pm

      ” If everyone who had a belief in something where evidence was to the contrary, half the world would be diagnosed as mentally ill.”

      Belief systems rely on the beliefs of the mentally ill

  8. Malcolm Bell permalink
    October 19, 2021 11:27 am

    I am a Quaker.
    The Derby’s of Coalbrookdale invented how to use coke to smelt good quality iron (and mass produced hygienic iron cookery ware that save millions. They were Quakers. Their technology was taken up to make steam engines and factory machinery.

    It was the Quakers who created modern banking with Barkleys, Lloyds and similar and founded many mutual savings banks.

    It was Quakers who funded Stephenson to build the first engine hauled railway that accelerated the use of coal. That saved the last of our forests from finally being destroyed for firewood and house building.
    It was… I could add many more, But let me be clear, the other none conformist communities who did not go to University were also huge players.

    I am immensely proud of my forebears. Maybe, just maybe, we are a lead guilty party in this “crisis which isn’t the real crisis”. Mea culpa. Greta might be right.

    My Engineering judgement is the real crisis is over population. The world population has trebled in my lifetime. That may a product of the Industrial Revolution, but certainly is the cause of the rape of our environment.

    No, I cannot answer the next question.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      October 19, 2021 11:41 am

      Well done, Quakers! (Not snark). If only the Third World had benefited from the IR instead of being held back by Medieaval life-styles there wouldn’t be a population problem today. Except, of course, Greens are only too happy to make sure the TW does not get cheap ff energy.

    • mervhob permalink
      October 19, 2021 1:35 pm

      Quite right Malcolm, it was the Quaker financier Edwin Pease that recycled bad debt from a failed property boom at the end of the Napoleonic wars, into the funding of real economic growth via the Stephenson’s and others. This was real economic change, putting money to work and whipping it’s back raw. A complete contrast to the ‘buy cheap-sell dear’ society based on third world slavery that has stolen the clothes of capitalism without producing any measurable results. What these Quaker pioneers funded was a massive improvement in human productivity that has spread to the benefit of most of the world.
      However, the claim that the current world society is ‘Capitalist’ is an insult to those worthy pioneers whose vision and perseverance made this possible. Unfortunately, their actions, like the man on the road from Jerusalem to Jericho, ‘fell amongst thieves’. There are more billionaires in the world than ever before but their ability to produce real change is negligible. They are still very dependent, not on ‘new’ technical means, but Medieval and Victorian technology, in terms of motive power, communication and energy generation. Zianni de Ferranti, Charles Parsons, Heinrich Hertz, Marconi, Rudolf Diesel and many others, are long dead – yet the modern generation have produced nothing to replace them. Nuclear power boils water to drive Parson’s turbines and Faraday’s electrical machines – the wind turbines drive likewise.
      And please don’t mention ‘the digital revolution’ – the Victorians developed electro- mechanical data processing and transferring that to silicon chips to run faster and faster is a trivial result.
      Compared with these giants, the current crop of billionaires are little better than grasping ‘kulaks’; manipulating markets for largely unearned ‘profit’. This form of manipulation originated in America and led to the formation of ‘trusts’ to centralise market power in the hands of a few. America rose up against this movement, but then allowed such abuses to return, leading to the Great Crash of 1929 as speculative fraud brought the world to its knees and led to the rise of Hitler and close on 65 million deaths.
      Some of the digital technology has been put to useful purpose, in particular in medicine and science – but the majority has been subsumed to the trivial actions of the markets – with gormless ‘influencers’ pushing economically worthless products.
      The mindless gobbling about ‘market forces’ is of little importance when the markets are controlled by a peasant intellect. The world desperately needs better technical means as the total population is rising towards 10 billion. This is not sustainable and to blame CO2 as the singular cause of the worlds problems is daft! We need to return to the vision and purpose of those early pioneers – money must be lashed to the wheel of real progress and its back whipped raw!

      • olddigger permalink
        October 19, 2021 1:59 pm

        Was Edward Pease a financier? i am not sure that he was though he brought a lot of Quaker bankers who helped, Backhouse in Darlington for instance. Also a Quaker family banker from Saffron Walden who helped and also was one of the group who purchased the salt marsh that is now Middlesbrough. This particular Quaker married Edward’s daughter Elizabeth and built a house near by. I live still close by in one of his buildings

    • StephenP permalink
      October 19, 2021 1:36 pm

      A question that is worth asking is what role did Sweden play in iron production?
      Answer:
      During the first half of the seventeenth century, Swedish bar iron arrived in England in small quantities via Hanseatic and Dutch intermediate ports. … Direct Swedish exports to England grew from a bare 1,000 tons in 1650 to 12,000 tons in 1700; by 1720, the figure was increased to 14,000 tons.
      British iron production in 1700 was 12,000 metric tons a year.

      During the 18th century, Sweden’s iron production virtually doubled due to the increased demand for bar iron from abroad, particularly England which had a large need for high-quality, so called Oregrund iron, as an input for its steel industry. Bar iron gradually came to comprise no less than three-quarters of the total Swedish exports, creating for the Crown much needed revenues in the form of taxes and export duties.

      In England, the charcoal forests had been stripped to such an extent that the country had become strongly dependent on iron imports from Sweden. England’s imports in the 1730’s totalled about 25,000 tonnes of which Sweden’s contribution was nearly 20,000 tonnes. From Russia came about 5,000 tonnes but Russian iron, some twenty years later, would rise to 15,000 tonnes hich would then equal Sweden’s share.

      At the end of the 18th century technology in England had been developed enabling the use of fossil coal in metallurgical processes.

      So it could be said that the introduction of coal for iron production saved what was left of England’s forests.

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      October 19, 2021 5:03 pm

      “Stephenson to build the first engine hauled railway”

      No Malcolm; that was Richard Trevithick with his “Penydarren tram road engine”
      https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpreservedrailway.weebly.com%2Fuploads%2F2%2F4%2F1%2F2%2F24128622%2F1386668547.jpg&f=1&nofb=1
      in 1804, 20yrs before Stephenson.
      The tramway ran from the Iron works at Penydarren ( Merthyr Tydfil) 10miles to the Glamorganshire Canal near Quakers Yard, Treharris; it was owned by

      Stephenson supplied an engine “Eclipse” June 1832 to run on the tramway. The chimney must have been hinged to allow it to go through the 8ft high Plymouth tunnel.

  9. October 19, 2021 11:27 am

    The world is quite entitled to give up all the benefits of the industrial revolution from medicines to law, from well paid jobs to travel, from longevity to human rights, from transport to warm homes.

    Perhaps Greta would like to lead the charge?

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      October 19, 2021 12:54 pm

      The Industrial Revolution ultimately led to us becoming so wealthy we can afford luxury as unemployed teenage activists, academics studying made up subjects and endless TV propaganda. It is ironic that these very same people lead the charge to do away with the wealth necessary for them to exist.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        October 19, 2021 2:02 pm

        My thinking too. If you impoverish the mass population who is left to buy iPhones at over £1000? When you spend your waking hours doing what little work you have and then having to tend your crops to survive there will be no time to Google or Netflix.

      • Curious George permalink
        October 19, 2021 4:50 pm

        Isn’t Greta herself an indirect product of the Industrial Revolution?

  10. Harry Davidson permalink
    October 19, 2021 11:33 am

    O/T but according to Bloomberg Boris & Co have abandoned renewables in favour of nuclear,
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-16/u-k-net-zero-emission-plan-to-focus-on-nuclear-power-ft-says
    If this is accurate, it is excellent news. An electricity supply that actually works. Again, if true Boris will go up in my estimation.

    • Douglas Dragonfly permalink
      October 19, 2021 12:08 pm

      Do you not think this might of been the game plan all along ?

      • Harry Davidson permalink
        October 19, 2021 12:40 pm

        For some in Whitehall, definitely, but they are old hands and never fight a battle when they know they are going to lose.
        For Boris no this was not the plan, always a backup perhaps. Nut-nuts and her cronies badgered him into believing in wind and batteries, but if this is right then he has shown that he can listen better advice when it’s obvious that dearly held views are not right.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      October 19, 2021 12:55 pm

      He’s trying to head off his MPs. Mybet is not a single nuclear power station is built.

  11. Jack Broughton permalink
    October 19, 2021 12:06 pm

    Maybe Greta should read the intro of her fellow-countryman’s, Hans Rosing, book FACTFULNESS. It details life in Sweden only two generations ago and the massive improvements brought about to Swedish life by industrialisation. The lass needs a lot more education.

  12. Joe Public permalink
    October 19, 2021 12:48 pm

    Euan Mearns wrote an excellent piece about ‘Energy and Man’, pointing out early in the development of human society, Man discovered that if “he” could harness the work of others “he” could live in greater comfort than living by the sweat of his own brow.

    http://euanmearns.com/energy-and-man-part-3/

    One graphic Euan chose puts the use of energy into stark perspective:

  13. Bloke down the pub permalink
    October 19, 2021 1:05 pm

    Despite images of hell like conditions in places like Ironbridge, the UK retained a significant agrarian population until at least the First World War. Is there any estimate out there of the date when the UK’s CO₂ emissions rose above what the country’s biome was able to absorb?

  14. Nick permalink
    October 19, 2021 1:15 pm

    They can’t have it both ways; either we generated a lot of emissions during the industrial revolution (when we exported most of what we made, or we are currently responsible for emissions for the goods we import which are manufactured abroad.

    • Curious George permalink
      October 19, 2021 4:53 pm

      Logic? Logic is so yesterday.

  15. Anziani permalink
    October 19, 2021 5:07 pm

    She is fuqueing stupid!

  16. mervhob permalink
    October 19, 2021 7:48 pm

    Olddigger – Edward Pease (Not Edwin, my mistake!) was indeed a financier who bought up bad debt from the collapsed property boom after Arthur Wellesley defeated Napoleon at the battle of Waterloo. Corn imports resumed and those who had borrowed money to buy property to rent out to tenant farmers were ruined. Byron wrote a poem about it, ‘The Age of Bronze’ – ‘Year after year these Sabine tillers sent, Their brethren of to War and why? – for Rent!’ These speculators had borrowed money at 20 – 30% and now faced ruin and Debtors Prison. Pease and other Quaker financiers bought their bad debts and recycled them over 20 years at 5%. A nice little earner! But Pease now had regular cash flow and being a Quaker, put it to good use!

  17. Mewswithaview permalink
    October 19, 2021 11:16 pm

    Interview with Jordan Peterson and Michael Shellenberger,

    11:59 minutes: The religious movement of Apocalyptic Environmentalism.

  18. October 20, 2021 8:52 am

    Next it will be climate reparations…… just wait for the next nutjob group to be created and instantly infiltrated and taken over by your ever reliable marxists.

  19. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    October 20, 2021 1:26 pm

    There still maybe time for Greta and the Extinction Rebellion to visit Lebanon.
    It would be for the purpose of a fact finding mission before they descend on Glasgow shouting their demands.
    Here is an account of what they would find in this beautiful country :-

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/10/20/darkness-lebanons-generator-mafia-warns-will-switch-lights/

  20. Micky R permalink
    October 20, 2021 1:39 pm

    Western civilisation commenced with the Industrial Revolution.

    Several reasons why the UK founded the Industrial Revolution, all covered in depth by others, but I’ll add that there are rare occasions when individuals reach far beyond the capability of the rest of humanity at a particular time, Trevithick being once such individual.

    • Micky R permalink
      October 20, 2021 1:51 pm

      …. one such individual.

  21. Phil O'Sophical permalink
    October 20, 2021 5:13 pm

    “to see how many of them linked human activity to the changing climate and look for consensus on the subject.”

    In 1931, a paper was published in Germany: “One Hundred Scientists Against Einstein”. Einstein responded: “If I am wrong, why does it require 100 people? One would do.”

    I notice, too, that the lazy Mail article, further advertising their ignorance, uses yet another picture of cooling towers emitting water vapour.

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      October 22, 2021 12:05 am

      But, but, they’ve been right all along … water vapour IS the major ‘greenhouse gas’

  22. October 23, 2021 11:58 am

    Some have questioned whether moving away from a hunter-gatherer lifestyle was in humanity’s best interests, pointing to problems of social inequality, malnutrition, and military conflict that followed the adoption of farming. One prominent scientist has even called agriculture the “worst mistake in the history of the human race.”

    In the history of civilization … the plowshare has been far more destructive than the sword.

    One of Greta’s scriptwriters

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