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NatWest Tracking Your Carbon Footprint

November 11, 2021

By Paul Homewood

 

I find this rather sinister:

 

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A reader has sent me this message he got from NatWest. It claims to be an estimate of his carbon footprint, based on his bank transactions.

The NatWest website shows how the App works:

 

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https://www.natwest.com/banking-with-natwest/our-purpose/climate/what-is-a-carbon-footprint/how-is-your-carbon-footprint-calculated.html

Of course you don’t have to download the App. But even if you don’t, the bank still has all of this information stored away.

At the moment, it may just be a gimmick. But it could all very easily be downloaded to some central state database, and used to check up on each and every one of us.

How long will it be before we have carbon rationing and visits from the Carbon Police?

38 Comments
  1. T Walker permalink
    November 11, 2021 5:38 pm

    Nat West – will never see me as a customer.

  2. Joe Public permalink
    November 11, 2021 5:42 pm

    One response to NatWest prior to telling them to eff-off could be:

    “Please publish the monthly carbon footprint of each member of your Board of Directors!”

    • T Walker permalink
      November 11, 2021 5:51 pm

      Spot on Joe

    • Mad Mike permalink
      November 11, 2021 6:33 pm

      This whole carbon footprint shaming will come back to bite many who are telling us we are very bad people.

      I have no problem with there being some rich and some very rich people. Its inevitable in a capitalist society. But in virtually every case of them spending said wealth they will be causing some release of CO2. The more they spend the greater it will be so, if they decide that they will bring their CO2 footprint down to the average person’s level, there would be no point in them being rich.If thats what they decide to do out of firmly he’d beliefs then good on them. I don’t believe they are right but I would applaud their commitment.

      I doubt very much that Nat West’s BOD fall in to this category so they should called out for trying to manipulate their customers in such a fashion. The same should apply to all the rich and famous who obviously think they are special cases when all they are is rich.

      • LVJohn permalink
        November 12, 2021 10:53 am

        I have no doubt that the NatWest BOD will have all of their carbon emissions covered by carbon offset certificates, no doubt paid for by the NatWest.
        After all what is the point of Net zero carbon accounting otherwise.

    • In the Real World permalink
      November 11, 2021 7:35 pm

      I think the response to all of the propaganda about ” Carbon footprint ” , should be to tell them all that the carbon footprint of the whole country is only 1 part in 10,000,000 parts of atmosphere , [ or 0.00001% ].

      But the greens & media will never admit this as people would start to realise that it is impossible that that tiny , tiny amount could have any measureable effect on the climate .

    • H Davis permalink
      November 11, 2021 7:36 pm

      We might even find out that some (none) of the directors has an account at NatWest.

    • Graeme No.3 permalink
      November 11, 2021 11:57 pm

      Another response might be “there is an error in your software. I only have 31.4 smart phones”.

  3. Stonyground permalink
    November 11, 2021 6:10 pm

    I’m not with Nat West but if I were my account would be closed forthwith. Let’s hope that a significant number of their customers do just that.

    • Vernon E permalink
      November 11, 2021 7:17 pm

      Stonydground: Sorry but it ain’t that easy. As an elderly pensioner with numerous monthly transactions for bits of pensions, direct debits, charities and so on I just wouldn’t trust them not to leave me without cash or to make me write numerous letters to my payers/payees. I would love to leave them – they provide a rubbuish service but aren’t all the banks much the same?

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        November 12, 2021 7:37 am

        Never had a problem with Lloyds in 35 years now.

      • Pauline Gray permalink
        November 12, 2021 8:41 am

        Halifax part of Lloyds Group have started sending me their view of my monthly activity. Not because of climate but because they consider me overcommitted. They are wrong as only see part of my activity but it does not stop them poking their nose in uninvited. So they have the systems to do this so wont be long no doubt.

  4. HotScot permalink
    November 11, 2021 6:18 pm

    Nat West are hitting it hard right now. They are sponsors of COP26 according to their radio adverts and are devoting £100bn to customers by 2025 (not sure if the date is quite right).

    What they don’t tell everyone is, this isn’t a donation, this is undoubtedly money being made available for a few ‘fortunate’ souls who can afford to borrow £100k to modify their homes to NetZero standards.

    What next Boris, mandatory NetZero jabs?

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      November 12, 2021 7:43 am

      Government owned bank using money that should be returned to the taxpayers who bailed it out to promote government policies.

      And at no point reminding everybody it’s still majority government owned and so pretending this is an independent business decision.

      Sleazy, dishonesty misrepresentation. This government all over.

  5. MrGrimNasty permalink
    November 11, 2021 6:37 pm

    Personal spending limits linked to ‘carbon cost’ not new, voluntary for now……

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/05/this-credit-card-has-a-carbon-emission-spending-limit/

  6. Diogenes permalink
    November 11, 2021 6:44 pm

    Nat West carbon footprint needs checking waisting electricity colating these figures

  7. Vernon E permalink
    November 11, 2021 7:18 pm

    Stonyground: Sorry but it ain’t that easy. As an elderly pensioner with numerous monthly transactions for bits of pensions, direct debits, charities and so on I just wouldn’t trust them not to leave me without cash or to make me write numerous letters to my payers/payees. I would love to leave them – they provide a rubbuish service but aren’t all the banks much the same?

    • jazznick permalink
      November 11, 2021 8:50 pm

      Vernon E.
      Use the Bank Switching Service.
      https://www.currentaccountswitch.co.uk/Pages/Home.aspx

      I’ve done this twice and had no problems, They do all the legwork and compensate you if they screw up. Pick your bank – open an account and they initiate the switch for you.

      We have 5 pensions and about 20 D/D’s and all moved over without a hitch both times.

  8. 2hmp permalink
    November 11, 2021 8:06 pm

    My aim is to produce as much CO2 as possible so that all plant life can thrive as at present most plants are starved of CO2.

  9. Gamecock permalink
    November 11, 2021 8:10 pm

    ‘That’s the same as charging 31488 smartphones.’

    What’s that in Hiroshima Bombs?

    • jazznick permalink
      November 11, 2021 9:06 pm

      I’ve no idea. But I’m sure Nat West will be able to do the conversion – for a fee.

    • dennisambler permalink
      November 12, 2021 12:11 pm

      “31488 smartphones.” How many football pitch equivalents is that?

  10. jazznick permalink
    November 11, 2021 8:42 pm

    The hand of the government’s Behavioural Insights Team (part of the Cabinet Office) is on show here. Otherwise known as “The Nudge Unit”. (Nat West is still government owned)

    Expect more subtle interventions from them to persuade us all to mend our ways !

    Compliance is optional…..for now.

    • November 11, 2021 10:27 pm

      Is the Cabinet Office Behavioural Insights Team sited next to the office marked “you have got to be f***ing kidding me team” .

      As most of government policy originates from there.

    • Julian Flood permalink
      November 13, 2021 12:30 pm

      On the topic of the Nudge Unit, I read recently that they have overseas offices, Why? And if one of them is in the US, what do the cousins think of a foreign propaganda unit operating in their country?

      JF

  11. markl permalink
    November 11, 2021 10:52 pm

    What a bunch of crap. Typical ecoloon fantasy that they know what’s best for you and will make sure you agree.

  12. Mack permalink
    November 12, 2021 7:03 am

    What’s not to like about living in the sunny uplands of the new Green Reich?…..said no one, ever. When I was a child I was taught that Orwell’s 1984 was a fictional allegory of totalitarianism, a warning if you like, not a bloody guidebook. The direction of travel of all these initiatives is obvious and extremely sinister. One can only hope that a pushback begins before we all find ourselves in chains or shivering in the dark.

  13. Phoenix44 permalink
    November 12, 2021 7:39 am

    Hardly surprising – NatWest remains majority government owned.

    Simply doing what it’s shareholder wants.

  14. Ben Vorlich permalink
    November 12, 2021 7:47 am

    Google and presumably Apple have a much more accurate track of your movements. The only thing They don’t know for sure is if you were the driver or a passenger.
    Combine this with your bank transactions and Tesco clubcard, other loyalty schemes are available, they’ll know how far you drove to buy that steak and the total carbon footprint when you could have bought some quorn made in a factory and flavoured with chemicals made in China. That should be more of a worry than Bill Gates turning us into zombies with CV19 jags

  15. cookers52 permalink
    November 12, 2021 8:00 am

    A few years ago the Energy companies did something like this, but they added an ill advised bit ,where if you thought your neighbour was being environmentally irresponsible, you could snitch on them and Eon would send the boys round to sort them out.

    I wrote a nice complaint and politely asked how had they arrived at this inexplicable invasion of privacy, the reply was “the policy was being withdrawn ” but they were only following government advice.

  16. Neil Turner permalink
    November 12, 2021 9:25 am

    The outlier of the new Social Credit scoring system, to be added to your Vax Passport / Digital ID.

  17. ABC123 permalink
    November 12, 2021 10:11 am

    This is technocracy in action.

  18. Gamecock permalink
    November 12, 2021 10:40 am

    What? You think your rights are more important than the Left’s agenda? Good luck with that.

  19. JBW permalink
    November 12, 2021 10:42 am

    This reminds me of a cost cutting exercise carried out, many years ago, by a certain airline I used to work for. They decided that crews were taking too much excess fuel, so devised a league table of all the captains that were not complying with company policy, and which was published in the crew checkin area. It backfired spectacularly because everyone wanted to be at the top of the league table!

    So instead of ditching NatWest – try to increase your CO2 output!!

    • Sam Duncan permalink
      November 12, 2021 2:58 pm

      Just what I thought. I kind of wish my bank would start this so I could see how high I can get it.

      246kg? Pfft. The atmosphere weighs 5.5 quadrillion tons (that’s 55 with 14 zeroes after it, so add another three for kilos). You’re barely making a dent. Try harder.

  20. Coeur de Lion permalink
    November 12, 2021 5:34 pm

    Easy. Get into my diesel and drive down to the Post Office with my debit card. Cash.

  21. Julian Flood permalink
    November 13, 2021 12:33 pm

    On the topic of the Nudge Unit, I read recently that they have overseas offices, Why? And if one of them is in the US, what do the cousins think of a foreign propaganda unit operating in their country?

    JF

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