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David Viner’s Thing Of The Past Comes Back To Haunt Him (Again!)

November 27, 2021

By Paul Homewood


David Viner – March 2000

“Within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event””.

“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,”



 Sheffield – Nov 2021

A snowy street in the town of Hawes in the Yorkshire Dales

Hawes – Feb 2020

Police forces and highway agencies across the UK have urged people not to travel unless 'absolutely necessary' as they deal with surging calls (pictured: An overturned van in Titley, Herefordshire

Titley, Herefordshire – Dec 2017


Leadhills, South Lanarkshire – Jan 2017

Nekko Sammann sledges in the snow at Alexandra Palace in north London, 17 January 2016.

Alexandra Palace, London – Jan 2016



The coach getting stuck on a hill in Sheffield

Sheffield- Dec 2014



Snow in Scarborough

Snow in Scarborough, North Yorkshire – Jan 2013



Snowy scenes as freezing conditions come to the UK – Feb 2012



snow to return to southern UK

Large parts of England and Wales could get as much as 10cm of snow today – Jan 2011


Thigh deep snow in Sheffield – Dec 2010


Winter weather: Baboons at Knowsley Safari Park

Baboons at Knowsley Safari Park try to keep warm with hot potatoes – Jan 2010




London  – Feb 2009



A man walking dogs in snow in Co Durham on 5th April

Snow falls across much of UK – April 2008 



A postman in the snow in Newport Pagnell, Bucks

Snow hits schools and travellers – Feb 2007




David Viner – March 2000

“Within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event””.

“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,”



As the saying goes, “Pictures speak louder than words”.


Or, as the other saying goes, “What a prat!”

  1. T Walker permalink
    November 27, 2021 6:17 pm

    Yeah children don’t know what a proper climate scientist looks like.

  2. Coeur de Lion permalink
    November 27, 2021 6:48 pm

    And Wadhams of course.

  3. Brian permalink
    November 27, 2021 6:49 pm

    Paul — I am so glad you dug this out; I was going to suggest you gave this story an airing. As well as making the scientist look somewhat over-eager, it also casts light on the journalist who wrote the report.

  4. tom0mason permalink
    November 27, 2021 6:58 pm

    All persons younger than 20 year old must be put on ‘lockdown’ in windowless rooms, with special filtered BBC/government computer connection until winter has passed.
    The government decree insists “All children WILL NOT know what snow is, as snow spreads new COVID mutations!”

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      November 27, 2021 7:43 pm

      Not ONE person finishing uni this year has experienced global warming, climate change or even the proven need to declare climate an emergency in their lifetime. The weather today is no different to that into which they were born.

  5. sean2829 permalink
    November 27, 2021 7:20 pm

    At least he made a prediction.

    Nothing makes me more angry than when there is a newsworthy weather event occurs someone drops a news release after the fact showing climate models predict more of the same in the future due to climate change.

    Even worse is knowing that regional climate models have never been fit for purpose yet “Scientists” predict catastrophic changes in a representatives district to influence a vote on a bill.

    • LeedsChris permalink
      November 28, 2021 10:19 pm

      As of today night we have 5cm of level snow in Leeds and trees and bushes are draped with it. Today was the second day it barely got above freezing all day. My weather station is already reading my -6c at 10pm tonight.

  6. November 27, 2021 7:44 pm

    Never mind the climate models, here’s the autumn weather…

    Storm Arwen: Revellers snowed in at Britain’s highest pub
    27 November 2021

    Staff at the Tan Hill Inn, which is 1,732ft (528m) above sea level, said they woke up to some 3ft (0.9m) of snow.

    Anya Harnett, who works there, said about 60 people, including 40 pre-booked guests, are currently unable to leave due to the weather conditions.
    [includes snow pics]

    • Stonyground permalink
      November 28, 2021 8:11 am

      From the report:
      “Twenty people, including an Oasis tribute band, were unable to leave the Tan Hill Inn in the Yorkshire Dales after being snowed in on Friday.”

      Someone had tweeted ” Bloody hell, I think I’d go an take my chances like Captain Oates”

  7. eastdevonoldie permalink
    November 27, 2021 8:09 pm

    There are some people questioning this CC scam but with no mainstream platform to air their thoughts:
    Any chance the BBC will give the author just 5 minutes?

    • Stonyground permalink
      November 28, 2021 8:23 am

      From the article:
      “The climate models are an exemplary representation of confirmation bias…”
      I would also suggest that they are an example of a tautology or circular argument combined
      with begging the question. The modellers are attempting to prove that their hypothesis is true by programming a computer to predict what would happen if it was true. They are assuming the thing that they are trying to prove. They are then ignoring the fact that the models failure to match reality actually disproves the hypothesis.

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        November 28, 2021 4:29 pm

        I know I’m late to reply – but that (response) is just SO DAMN RIGHT!
        (And it will never see the light of an unbiased media). 😦

  8. Ray Sanders permalink
    November 27, 2021 8:31 pm

    Snow is obviously racist.

    • November 27, 2021 8:37 pm

      Well Ray . . . it is definitely a 4 letter word !

      • Hugh Sharman permalink
        November 27, 2021 8:50 pm

        Jim, You mean “prat”, of course! 😉

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        November 28, 2021 4:30 pm


  9. November 27, 2021 8:58 pm

    These barstewards are so devious and cunning which is why they changed it from Global Warming to the ubiquitous Climate Change to be able to include ANY weather event anywhere in the world at any time. Spells of hot weather, cold weather, snow, ice, rain, drought or dry periods – any type of weather can now be blamed on those two words I so hate and detest: Climate Change (pass the sick bag).

    • November 27, 2021 9:09 pm

      Which of course has now branched out to include practically ANY event in the world: war, rape, sickness, refugees, imbecilic management by politicians (as a get-out clause) – you name it ‘they’ will tell you what has caused everything.

  10. cookers52 permalink
    November 28, 2021 12:43 am

    Being wrong doesn’t seem to have held back his career, in fact it probably helps.

    We should applaud and reward such talent and celebrate the best that Climate Science has produced. A prediction on message is all that is. required

  11. Duker permalink
    November 28, 2021 1:00 am

    David Viner seems to have whole swag of ‘peer reviewed’ climate predictions from his research output which dates back to 1998

  12. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    November 28, 2021 8:19 am

    He has been affiliated with Mott MacDonald. Developers. Who are currently doing some awful development around the central railway station in Bristol.
    For example no consideration for the elderly with suitcases, families with young children, buggies and all, disabled mobility around the area e.g. from train to bus. So it is no surprise this chump Vine has worked with them.
    Surely his calling would be better suited to rooting around for hot potatoes with the other baboons ?

  13. Julian Flood permalink
    November 28, 2021 9:25 am

    “… within a few years…”

    For some values of ‘few’…


  14. Kelvin Vaughan permalink
    November 28, 2021 10:06 am

    I remember John Ketley the BBC Weatherman saying exactly that in the 80’s.

  15. Andrew Harding permalink
    November 28, 2021 10:30 am

    0.9 Celsius in Newcastle upon Tyne suburbs and snowing as I type this at 10:25; 28/11/2021.

    My garden has not become a vineyard and friends in the Costa del Sol are not climate refugees heading North because of drought, failed crops and heat induced plague.

    Now there’s a surprise!

  16. David Calder permalink
    November 28, 2021 11:18 am

    Grade A Opportunist – like the rest of them

  17. 2hmp permalink
    November 28, 2021 12:07 pm

    It’s very warm today – the icicles are melting !!

  18. Jackington permalink
    November 28, 2021 12:34 pm

    It’s amazing that, apparently, these very low temperatures must be caused by catastrophic rising temperatures. But no-one in MSM has brought my attention to this disconnection!

  19. GeorgeLet permalink
    November 28, 2021 12:38 pm

    How about watching those football games in Michigan yesterday?
    The question is when will the people say enough of this climate change scam?

  20. tom0mason permalink
    November 28, 2021 1:04 pm

    Off-topic but money well spent?

    The Metropolitan Police spent a staggering £1,603,315.92 on clearing Insulate Britain protests in October alone. This figure – revealed in new FOI data – doesn’t even include the ongoing costs associated with processing the 153 arrests made throughout the month, so the total bill to the taxpayer will likely be even higher…

    The Met have been forced to divert a huge number of resources to police this radical mob. The data also shows that in a single day in October, 176 police constables and 24 police sergeants were diverted to handle the protests. A fantastic use of their time: far better than, say, tackling knife crime…

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      November 28, 2021 4:34 pm

      Try sending tgat to the DT, Tom…. (I hope they print it).

    • Douglas Dragonfly permalink
      November 28, 2021 5:40 pm

      Plus court costs and months in custody That bill will substantially increase and there maybe more convictions to come.
      Would they of not been better setting up a company to source resources to insulate properties ?
      These people should be cleaning public laboratories at the bare minimum.

  21. November 28, 2021 2:17 pm

    2-3 inches of snow here in Lancashire today. It’s still snowing as I write.
    Snow in November is not exactly unknown in these parts but it is rare for it to stick at this time of year.

    • GeorgeLet permalink
      November 28, 2021 4:15 pm

      How about the snow in Michigan yesterday seen by all those watching football? Hopefully, people are waking up to the fossil fuel CO2 caused climate change scam. Thanks for all you do.

    • David Wild permalink
      November 28, 2021 4:59 pm

      40-50cm in the Haute Savoie today. A little early (yippee!) but the ski resorts are happy, even though it’s a bit slippy.

  22. cookers52 permalink
    November 28, 2021 6:02 pm

    Tonight’s pudding is Elsanta strawberries and fresh raspberries.

    Without climate change this wouldn’t be possible would it?

  23. November 28, 2021 6:40 pm

    “Within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event””.

    He has the perfect excuse for current snowfalls — it’s not winter yet 😆

  24. November 28, 2021 8:33 pm

    Lovely sunny day here in Torbay and sitting out at beachfront cafe without a coat this morning.

    Pretty busy but thank goodness the tourists have mostly gone, although the turkey and tinsel brigade are appearing

  25. LeedsChris permalink
    November 28, 2021 10:19 pm

    As of today night we have 5cm of level snow in Leeds and trees and bushes are draped with it. Today was the second day it barely got above freezing all day. My weather station is already reading my -6c at 10pm tonight.

  26. EyeSee permalink
    November 29, 2021 8:40 am

    You are confusing reality with ideology, which is why you don’t understand Climate Change. It’s not about actualite.

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