Net Zero Costs–Latest BBC Propaganda
By Paul Homewood
h/t Philip Bratby
Another grossly one-sided piece by the BBC, which might just have been written by Carbon Brief (indeed part of it was!):
With the cost of living rising, are Britain’s plans to cut greenhouse gas emissions too expensive?
A small but vocal group of Conservative MPs are arguing that with energy prices soaring, the government should rethink how it reaches what’s known as ‘net zero’ by 2050.
The group has made a number of key arguments. So what are they saying, and what does the data tell us?
Three years ago the goal of net zero was written into UK law with the backing of MPs from all sides.
Broadly speaking it’s a commitment to transform the way our economy operates. Net zero means not adding to the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. Achieving it means reducing emissions as much as possible, as balancing out any that remain.
There’s consensus among the world’s scientists that it’s vital if we’re to have a chance of keeping global temperature rises to manageable levels.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60489328
I think you can see where they are going. “A small vocal group of MPs”, which the article goes on to refer to as “Eurosceptics”. In other, a few extremists, who should be ignored.
“Written into law with the backing of all sides” – but strangely no mention of the fact that the public were never given a choice!
The article then proceeds to offer a biased, misleading account of why, according to the BBC, these MPs are totally wrong. Yet there is no attempt at all to balance any of this with arguments from the other side.
Below are the BBC’s main talking points:
In fact, Environmental Levies and other climate policies, which don’t include the social costs of providing insulation and rebates for poor households as the BBC claims, will add £17.6 billion to energy bills this year, according to the OBR.
Not all of this appears on domestic bills, as industry, commerce and the public sector will also pay their share. However it is the public who will ultimately pay this bill, which equates to £650 per household.

A grossly misleading and dishonest claim.
The cost of gas generation, as shown on their graph, includes £32/MWh for “Carbon Costs”. But these are not “costs” but “taxation”. Without this, CCGT costs would be £53/MWh, in other words lower than offshore wind:
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/beis-electricity-generation-costs-2020
There is also no mention of the costs of dealing with the intermittency of wind and solar power, which currently run at over £3 billion a year. equating to £34/MWh.
Nor is there any mention of the fact that actual offshore wind costs are working out much higher than those highly optimistic projections, as evinced by actual company accounts.
Whether fracking reduces our energy prices totally misses the point – even if UK gas is sold at world prices, the country will still benefit hugely, and in particular government revenues will be boosted.
The BBC claim that “ this analysis from the London School of Economics suggests that fracking’s supporters are overly upbeat”
In fact the analysis is based on a Warwick Business School study in March 2020, which concluded that “UK fracking could produce between 90 and 330 billion cubic metres (bcm) of natural gas between 2020 and 2050. This would represent between 17 and 22 per cent of projected cumulative UK consumption over that period.”
By any account, that is a huge amount. There is no mention either by the BBC of maximising gas and oil reserves in the North Sea, which would also help to maintain domestic supplies at current levels in the next three decades.
There are all sorts of estimates of the cost of Net Zero, most of which are much higher than the Committee on Climate Change’s calculation, which has already been shown to be fundamentally flawed.
In reality, trying to forecast what our economy will look like in 2050 is a mug’s game.
But what we do know is just how much we are all going have to pay in the short run. Heat pumps, electric cars, hydrogen networks and the rest will cost ordinary people dear in the years to come.
On top of that, millions of jobs will be at risk because of decarbonisation targets placed on industry.
The article closes with this absurd paragraph:
So all of this will be avoided by the UK getting to Net Zero, while the rest of the world carries on as normal?
The whole story is a cheap attempt to take down the arguments of the Net Zero Group of MPs.
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The public are not allowed to have any input as we might have an attack of common sense and decline the opportunity to impoverish ourselves. We are just expected to keep quiet and pay for the Watermelon’s mad ideas.
Honesty and integrity are not in the BBC vocabulary.
If renewables were actually at £50 / MWh with all cost-penalties applied it would be more credible: why are we paying £ 100 – 140 / MWh still for unreliable sources of power! Reliable and predictable power is a basic modern human requirement.
Current high energy prices are a direct result of the net zero policies having led to reduced gas storage, reduced oil and gas field development and no fracking. All of these would have provided enormous value to the UK by now.
Their numbers for offshore wind are completely unrealistic, it indeed should be somewhere around 120/MWh. Solar is also on the low side, realistically it’s 60-70/MWh. Nuclear on the other hand is way too high, even if it costs as much as Hinkley C (~7.2 billion per GW), it’s going to be operational for 60 years, so the cost should be around 35/MWh.
Meanwhile, the cost of balancing adds 34/MWh today, but as the share of unreliable generators grows, this will increase, as more production will have to be constrained and as capacity factors for backup power stations are reduced.
They also seem to think that reaching net zero is a one time thing, like if you spend a few trillion pounds, and it is done. But it’s an ongoing expense, you are stuck with paying for the more expensive infrastructure forever (or at least until the policy changes). Even if it was only 0.4% GDP, it’s 0.4% GDP every year, not just three decades.
One thing they fail to point out is that we have lots of renewables at the left hand side of their graph. The graph actually shows the utter stupidity of being a “leader” rather than simply waiting for prices to fall.
And let’s ask people of they are in favour of fracking now if it meant their energy bills fell.
The main cause for high energy bills by far is the demolition of our entire fleet of coal power plants.
Cute too how they show the subsidies for wind etc (policy costs) under a dual fuel bill which make them seem a small percentage. Policy costs dont apply to gas and if you remove that they are much more prominent!
If the UK were self sufficient in gas, that, in and off itself, would be sufficient to keep prices in the European market low, our gas consumption is high enough to influence the market.
Of course, there is a commodity cycle with gas, what normally happens is high prices are an incentive to increased production, but there’s no doubt that Green lobbying has worsened this underinvestment this past five years, and therefore lead to higher prices.
If we were self sufficient in gas again our prices would be independent of world markets, except perhaps during periods of glut, when it might be cheaper to import than produce.
It’s very similar to joing the the EU. The people were not asked. Need a Brexit from net zero.
If you mean a referendum on Net Zero, the govt (and their chums) would rig it so hard as to make the EU referendum campaign seem balanced and fair in comparison.
There needs to be a referendum about all the “climate” and “green” hysterics that ordinary people have never been asked about. Look at all the invented and increased taxes, excessive regulation, actual and threatened bans on the products that ordinary people need
Ah yes, a ref.
I would bet that the PTB would ensure the voting age for such would be reduced to 16. Then, after the schools had done their bit to influence young minds, the BBC would be full on with their CC propaganda. Add to that the FJB-factor on how ensure votes go the way you want them and NZC would be welcomed with open arms.
I don’t know about having sanctions on Russian oligarchs, there should be one of those that peddle their influence in our parliament. There are far too may vested interests in our government: and I’d make a start with Deben and Davey.
Mind you, should the brainwashed kids and greenies win such a ref I know I won’t be around to suffer their consequences: they will have to recover from them all on their own.
As the inevitable realisation dawns we will find the BBC ever more shrill in claiming to be balanced. Their minority position is unfortunately helped by the right-on policy of some of the multi nationals but even those boardrooms will have to confront reality.
What for example are we supposed to make of whole page advertising over the weekend headed “Uber Green”?
Clue: “It’s time we took charge” — smacks of TfL taking the role of big brother .
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/02/22/need-energy-system-wont-cut-us-rip-us/
John Penrose MP BA Law and MBA well known expert in energy systems. Obviously doesn’t see how ridiculous he is but worse still the Telegraph let him prove it
…and as one commenter says: ‘ he’s married to Dido Harding’ enough said.
And another one…
“Anyone – and an MP, of all people – who says: ‘The cost of renewables has fallen massively’, deserves to be de-selected. It is a nonsense to suggest that this country needs more (MORE!!!!) unreliable, low-availability, expensive, tax-payer-funded, subsidy-sucking ‘power-stations’.”
Bolsheviks Bu@@37ing Children are not honest or truthful.
Just the kind of fair, balanced reporting (NOT) that we expect from the Ministry of Truth. For a better appreciation of Net Zero and its implications, the Telegraph has an article by Allison Pearson in today’s edition.
Are these net-zero sceptic MPs out of step with public opinion? Ask the public, BBC. You’ve got sound recording gear.
The “net zero sceptic MPs” are the only ones that are anywhere near in step with public opinion.
“There’s consensus among the world’s scientists”. No there isn’t, especially as there is no such thing as “scientific consensus”. Only a fool would say that. Ipso facto.
I balked at that line, too. There are many different scientific disciplines, many of which don’t know/couldn’t care less about weather predictions.
It is a preposterous, fabricated assertion.
I’m hoping that the TV license fee will be abolished in 2027 then all the green zealots can subscribe to what’s left of the BBC and listen to the green propaganda for the rest of time.
Paul, we seem to be thinking very much along the same lines just now. I mentioned the BBC article as a comment by way of after-the-event postscript on my article about the Guardian’s month-long attack on the Net Zero Scrutiny Group, here:
The Guardian aren’t blind; they can see on social media that the general public absolutely hate Net Zero policy.
It’s also driving a huge cost of living issue which ordinarily would be meat and drink for the left-wing Guardian to blame the Tories for. This time they can’t because they’re in favour of NZ.
They’re afraid of public pushback influencing a government roll-back of NZ. Can’t happen soon enough.
Cheshire Red,
Yes, I’m probably more left-leaning than many visitors here, and I used to be a regular Guardian reader because I agreed with much that was written there. Not any more. I don’t know what has happened to the “left” today, but they seem hell-bent on making life worse for the working-classes. The problem for those on the left, and at places like the Guardian, is that the working-classes are waking up to the realisation of this, and they understand that net zero is a large part of the problem, and certainly isn’t the solution.
Under Blair Labour became the party of champagne socialism where making money was more important than the obnoxious working classes. With the ending of mass industrial employment, the real working class have ceased to exist and their lifestyle of close knit communities where son followed father into the same jobs. Pete North pointed out why at the last election so many Labour seats went Tory – the service sector orientated electorate were moving away from Labour. Sadly, they have found out that the Tories are the same champagne socialists as Labour but less woke and not struggling over the definition of a ‘woman’.
Mr. Hodgson, thank you for those . . . I would like to add these two as well . . .
https://www.academia.edu/71021345/All_Electricity_Even_Renewables_Poisons_Planet_Earth
https://www.academia.edu/71023588/Batteries_Renewable_Energy_and_EV_s_The_Ultimate_in_Environmental_Destruction
The falsehoods, misinformation and near corruption coming from the ‘Green Energy Movement’ turns my stomach into Knots every time I read or see some new report of advocacy. The ‘Clean Energy’ narrative is so filled with false assumptions, even outright falsehoods, it would be laughable if not for its wide spread acceptance in society at large.
Somehow these truths Must be heard . . . Otherwise, I fear, we are headed for economic Armageddon . . . At the hands of the well meaning yet ignorant Plutocrats who run our societies by poles and propaganda from the left . . . And . . . Scientific Ignorance . . .
My Thoughts . . .
jimlemaistre,
As for renewable energy being good for the planet, if Paul doesn’t mind me plugging another article, try this:
Excellent piece . . . Well worth the read . . .
Thanks.
Missing from the ‘costs’ column is the impact of failed wind on the price of gas.
Wind failed, demand for gas sky-rocketed taking prices with it.
That price spike was due to the failure of wind and deliberately restricted supply. ie the fundamental unreliability of ‘renewables’ policy is driving market uncertainty which in turn drives gas prices higher.
This is an unarguable point but is almost never made, let alone expressed as a percentage, which I accept is very hard to do accurately.
Yes the price for long-term contracted gas is not the same as the spot price. More obviously in this case is that for generation, we used to be able to switch between coal and gas as their respective prices varied. If we hadn’t closed coal power stations, we would be using less gas and its price would be lower.
Liz Truss, the Foreign Secretary, called Russia Today a purveyor of “propaganda and fake news” and urged the regulator to step up its scrutiny. This, I heard today on the BBC news.
What wonderful irony!
Don’t moan about the BBC they didn’t vote for net zero, we did.
We didnt. The politicians did. They dont represent me.
I don’t recall Net Zero being in the Conservative manifesto.
Section 14 of the Climate change Act 2008
I coukd vote either for an anti-semite, the reversal of Brexit and Net Zero or a buffoon, Brexit and Net Zero.
For 30 years I’ve been voting for the least worst party.
Only eco terrorists actually voted for net zero. For everybody else it was an identical manifesto item for all major political parties. Hard to spot the difference except the name these days, but something else in thos manifestos is what people voted for, maybe actually in favour or just to keep the others out of power.
Have you seen the Amazon solar farm ad? It makes it look like the panels and nature are thriving in harmony, the narrator standing in masses of yellow flowers. The reality, like most big solar farms, productive farmland or wildlife habitat is reduced to trampled compacted dead grass.
And . . . The main problem with Solar Panels is the Heat and the chemicals needed during processing using the Czochralski method turning all that silicate into the silicon used to make these panels. Producing pure Silicon requires the processing of raw silicate. Including the 1,425o Heat required to melt the quartz crystals, usually by burning coking coal. What about the CO2 going up the chimney’s where that quartz was melted? Then we use hydrochloric acid, Sulfuric Acid, Nitric Acid, Hydrogen Fluoride, Trichloroethane, and Acetone. Do we recycle that waste? What happens to all the ‘left-overs’ from using these highly toxic chemicals? Solar Panels need gallium-arsenide, copper-indium, gallium-diselenide, and cadmium-telluride. All of which are highly toxic even radioactive. Furthermore, Silicon dust is a hazard to workers where silicone is made and where it used. Oh, and last, the Silicone infused Solar Panels cannot, as yet, be recycled. What happens to all the by-products from making and processing all these chemicals? It has been suggested that the energy input to build solar panels exceeds their energy output in their productive lifetime.
Fw: Linda, your energy rates are changing in April
Mike Davies
Thu 2/24/2022 12:27 AM
To: HUDSON, Neil
Cc: consumeraffairs@ofgem.gov.uk ; mark.jenkinson.mp@parliament.uk ; info@netzerowatch.com ; info@conservativewoman.co.uk ; complaints@beis.gov.uk
Neil,
As our MP, I am writing to you on behalf of my wife who received the attached e-mail from Shell Energy today
Mark,
I have cc’d you in your capacity as a member of the
Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Committee
We have just received a letter from Shell Energy ( attached below ) containing details of the new electricity charges which will be levied from April Fool’s Day, which contains outrageous rises in rates.
Here are details of current, future and recent charges and % changes based on most recent fixed rates (Green Energy Lamont Tariff)
green Bill Shell bill Change Shell Change Change
dated 19/11/21 14/1/22 a to b Letter b to c a to c
Day Rate 15.969 24.747 +54% 32.309 +30% +102%
Night rate 9.45 10.716 +13.4% 18.277 +70.1% +93%
Standing charge 20.95 24.47 +17% 42.33 +73% +102%
What is particularly egregious is the 70% rise in the night rate. As a recently new tenant we entered into an unwritten social contract with the UK government, to use night storage heating at economy 7 rates which is used as part of the grid balancing system. We cannot change this, and we have been betrayed by the Government. How can it be justified that the rate to be charged is effectively double what we payed last year, I presume this will apply to my neighbours who are in the same position.
This has come about due to crass mismanagement, and is causing a headlong dive into energy poverty for many of your constituents. The justification for this appears to be energy market forces, but how can that be when we do not use gas and are receiving green electricity. Who is profiteering from this. Where is the money disappearing to, its like having your pocket picked, it feels like a crime has been committed
To make matters worse we had been on a 2 yr fixed tariff ending in March 2023 until Government ineptitude forced Green out of business
Will the government raise our pensions by 100% to compensate
Mike Davies
Bolton
Cumbria
mob 07856 548898
From: lynn Davies
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 9:33 PM
To: Michael Davies
Subject: Fwd: Linda, your energy rates are changing in April
———- Forwarded message ———
From: Shell Energy
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 at 19:32
Subject: Linda, your energy rates are changing in April
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Shell Energy
Shell Energy
Account Number: 5010898
How the price cap change affects you
Hello Linda,
When you joined Shell Energy, we promised we’d be in touch with more information about the Ofgem price cap review. Here’s everything you need to know.
The price cap is calculated by Ofgem (the UK’s energy regulator) to reflect a fair price, based on the true costs of supplying energy to the home.
Our prices are changing to reflect high wholesale energy costs in line with Ofgem’s latest price cap review.
This means that the amount you pay for your energy is changing on Friday 1 April 2022 when you move to our new Flexible 7 Economy 7 Electricity Only tariff.
You don’t need to do anything as this change will take place automatically.
Here’s how the price cap change affects your energy prices
Annual Personal Projection
Your current tariff: Flexible 6 Economy 7 Electricity Only Direct Debit ebill £1,739
Your new tariff: Flexible 7 Economy 7 Electricity Only £2,404
Increase in cost £665
Your Economy 7 electricity rates will change from 24.747p to 32.309p per kWh for your day rate and 10.716p to 18.277p per kWh for your night rate. Your standing charge per day will change from 24.47p to 42.33p.
Your rates and projections outlined above include 5% VAT and are what we estimate you’ll pay over the next 12 months.
This is based on your estimated energy consumption of 7,940 kWh of electricity. Your actual costs will vary according to your usage.
You can find the terms and conditions for your new Flexible 7 Economy 7 Electricity Only tariff by clicking here. If you’d like to view your current Flexible 6 Economy 7 Electricity Only Direct Debit ebill tariff terms and conditions, click here.
The current mess was emminently predictable and indeed was predicted.
This morning, the demolition of power stations looks foolish and Lord Debden and Chris Stark are revealed for the idiots they have always been.
But will we choose a different course or is it far too late to stop the collective madness.
“…is it far too late…[?]”
Yes.
We are in the hospital and the doctor is reassuring. Dark masses on a chest X-ray are perfectly normal, he says, while he opens another carton of cigarettes gifted to him by the tobacco companies.
and now we have a war with russia. so no russian gas to the west.. I wonder if the government will realise that having secure gas supplies might have been a good idea
It’s also dishonest. They say a projected loss of 23% of GDP by 2100 but that’s presented in such a way that it sounds disastrous when it’s not. Global GDP will grow far more than 23% over that period so even under the worst case we will simply grow a bit less. I’ll take that chance.
Put simply, take off the arbitrary tax costs on gas and add on the intermittancy costs to renewables and that’s a swing of over £60/MWh. The BBC figures are just dishonest.
When this article starts with A small but vocal group of Conservative MP, you know exactly the slant that follows
Two quotes stand out to me in the final extract (Cost of doing nothing):
“two studies…projected losses of 7 & 23% in global GDP by 2100” – clearly they have picked the worst case studies here, others quote below the lower of these, and a relevant point is that GDP is projected to increase by 350% in that period, so doing nothing means our descendants will be 343% better off than us, rather than 350%. They should be able to live with that, as, if we do implement all the warming counter-measures it would probably be far lower;
“the cost (for eight major risk factors) could be £1bn per year by 2050” – that’s just twenty quid each for 50 million adults, and yet the previous extract gives the cost of retaining this magnificent annual bonus is estimated – net – at £344bn, or £6880 per adult. Gross is £1.4tn, so the assumption is more than a trillion pounds of benefits.
Is that a good investment? I think not, and someone should teach politicians, civil servants and those who write these forecasts the differences between millions, billions and trillions. I get the impression that they imagine each step is a tenfold increase rather than the actual thousandfold. Express everything in millions and the true amounts come into focus – £1.4tn is not just a nice small initial number but one point four million millions!
This is what the Spectator Australia thinks about renewables. A bit different to Minitrue’s views. https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/02/the-stampede-of-green-lemmings/
Great article ! . . . I would like to add this one . . .
https://www.academia.edu/71021345/All_Electricity_Even_Renewables_Poisons_Planet_Earth