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Labour Lose The Plot!

April 3, 2022
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By Paul Homewood

 

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/aug/04/labour-calls-for-hard-edged-end-date-for-oil-and-gas-exploration

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https://order-order.com/2022/04/03/labour-spokesperson-government-should-prepare-to-ration-gas/

48 Comments
  1. April 3, 2022 5:05 pm

    Sad-prat starmer must think there’s votes to be had from public ‘raving’. There isn’t, not when your car’s outa gas! Or your oil tank is empty. Only labour could possibly be SO STOOPID!

    • T Walker permalink
      April 3, 2022 5:37 pm

      I wouldn’t count on that – I think that politicians of all stripes understand little of the realities we face.

      With BoJo the clown constantly firing from hip with ill thought out policies we are witnessing a race to the bottom once again. Remember only 5 MPs voted against the Climate Change Act.

      It amazes me that you can convince people of things that are not happening, but they are blind to things that are.

      “easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled” – Mark Twain (slight paraphrase)

      • April 3, 2022 8:39 pm

        And they’ve all been spoon fed alarmist nonsense by the Climate Change Committee including Ministers and their eco fanatic advisors. Joe Public? Completely ignored.

      • Up2snuff permalink
        April 8, 2022 9:18 pm

        T Walker, it has happened before. Now you can understand why so many were accepting of their fate in Russia in the 20th century’s second and third decades and why the same thing happened in Germany in the 20th century’s third and fourth decades.

  2. Harry Passfield permalink
    April 3, 2022 5:23 pm

    I’ve got an old Tilley Lamp – in need of a mantle – but I might just bring it back to life if ‘Hind-sight’ gets in. Then again, with Mrs BJ having the upper-hand (so to speak), it’s as likely that I shall need it sooner if she insists on getting her lapdog to bring on Wind and Solar.
    Where, oh where, are our technically-literate politicians?

    • William George permalink
      April 3, 2022 5:35 pm

      Sorry Harry they’ve all got other jobs

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      April 3, 2022 7:48 pm

      Harry,
      In this case eBay is your friend. Might be an idea to get the paraffin as well

      https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254856089006?epid=1582261459&hash=item3b569b4dae:g:GqUAAOSwpDdVLtd4

      I have a Camping Gaz lamp and burner, with about 6 cartridges, left over from holidays with KeyCamp. Heat and light with a cup of tea.

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        April 3, 2022 8:32 pm

        Thanx Ben.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      April 3, 2022 8:35 pm

      Harry it’s back to syngas for me – going to run a generator off it as well as one of the cars. No I am not joking!
      https://www.amusingplanet.com/2022/02/wood-gas-vehicles-cars-that-run-on.html
      And then it’s onto the methanol still.
      https://sciencing.com/make-wood-alcohol-through-distillation-7762993.html

    • Mack permalink
      April 3, 2022 9:29 pm

      Tilley? How resonant of the name of one of the very few MPs who voted against the Climate Change Act, a certain Peter Lilley, whose speech against the act coincided with the earliest October snows at Westminster in a generation, a fact ignored by his colleagues in parliament. I may be wrong but, unlike his PPE studying colleagues, I do believe that Lilley had a degree in physics so was actually speaking from a position of knowledge.

    • roger permalink
      April 3, 2022 10:30 pm

      Snorting lines of subsidies with their colleagues in both houses and all parties. As always follow the money and marvel at their worth on retirement.

    • Tones permalink
      April 4, 2022 9:42 am

      There aren’t any!

  3. Athelstan. permalink
    April 3, 2022 5:26 pm

    ‘labour party lays out £30 billion green jobs plan’

    Indeed, the only thing they’ll be laying out, the country – a corpse.

    labour or tory, dimlibs and green, they’re in a race to make a very cold, wasted, horrible green hell – for this nation, and specifically: all the proles.

    • T Walker permalink
      April 3, 2022 5:39 pm

      Yeah back in your box Athelstan

      • Athelstan. permalink
        April 3, 2022 5:56 pm

        and you are the arbiter, of what and over whom exactly?

      • Ben Vorlich permalink
        April 3, 2022 7:54 pm

        That raised the discussion to a higher level than normal, not.

    • Mack permalink
      April 3, 2022 5:57 pm

      As a very part time bookmaker (won a few bob on the boat race earlier), in order to assess the efficacy of Labour’s ‘£30 billion green job’s plan’ I’ve had to consider the Labour Party’s form in this area. Looking at previous records of ‘green’ employment under labour administrations, when actually in power, shepherded by the likes of those eminent energy seers Gordon Brown and Ed Milliband, one notices that they have an almost 100% record of failing to deliver on all of their promises. All of the time. Remarkable. On that basis, I advise that everyone here should bet their houses on their favourite fossil fuel company before the killjoys in power make it illegal to keep (fossil fuelled) warm or drive a car beyond the end of your street. And, looking at the way things are going, that day might not be far away.

  4. Gamecock permalink
    April 3, 2022 5:41 pm

    Pete Buttigieg, Joe Biden, and Jen Psaki all said Americans should deal with high gas prices by buying an electric car.

    As tone deaf as your Brit Labour politicos.

    Western Civilization has dementia.

  5. Peter Lucey permalink
    April 3, 2022 5:49 pm

    Hi Paul and team

    Not sure how to flag a new item – but here’s Ian Dale’s electric car experience…

    https://www.iaindale.com/articles/should-you-buy-an-electric-car-heres-my-experience

    Cheers Peter

    • JBW permalink
      April 3, 2022 6:28 pm

      Interesting but not wholly surprising imho. It seems the business tax incentives are driving a lot of the EV sales. I wonder how many second hand EVs will be in the market in 3-5 years time. Who will be buying them then?

      • April 3, 2022 8:32 pm

        His experience demonstrates the complete uselessness of EVs except for a very limited use-case, that of pottering around your local area.

        Who’s going to buy used EVs? Not I, that’s for sure. Who would risk buying an EV or even a hybrid, where a replacement battery would cost many times the value of the car.

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        April 4, 2022 8:32 am

        But fleet use depends on resale value. If second hand EVs need a £10,000 new battery (or more if commodity prices keep climbing) then the resale value is zero. If that happens businesses are suddenly losing a lot of money.

      • David B permalink
        April 4, 2022 8:36 am

        I couldn’t see a “new” price but at £100,000 used that’s a neat runabout.

    • Mikehig permalink
      April 4, 2022 4:58 pm

      That seems to be a fairly common experience for folk trying to do long distances in EVs. The major exception is Tesla with its Supercharger network which, from what I have read, works very well.
      EVs are feasible for anyone doing less than 100 – 150 miles per day and who can charge at home. Their economics are much stronger for business users than private buyers because of the tax breaks. How long those advantages will last in these austere times is anyone’s guess.

  6. April 3, 2022 5:50 pm

    And it’s his traditional borders that will suffer the most. How to disenfranchise your electorate in one easy lesson.

  7. April 3, 2022 6:00 pm

    Gas is already rationed since 1st April, rationed between those who can afford it and those that can’t. That is the definition of a “hard edged” market.

  8. cookers52 permalink
    April 3, 2022 6:01 pm

    This is politics, black is white and is often undecided gender neutral grey, over there are some flying pigs and a couple of unicorns on the horizon, and a few red herrings swimming around.

    You cannot fix stupid, don’t even try.

  9. Micky R permalink
    April 3, 2022 6:24 pm

    The provision of domestic energy is too important to allow politicos to interfere.

  10. April 3, 2022 7:41 pm

    To lose the plot you must first have it?

    • Stuart Hamish permalink
      April 4, 2022 2:14 am

      Thats exactly the phrase I used recently

  11. ThinkingScientist permalink
    April 3, 2022 7:57 pm

    Double down on stupidity.

    I told our Conservative MP they now have a get out of jail free card to escape the renewable madness by playing the energy security card.

    Unfortunately Kwasi Kwarteng seems hell bent on outbidding Keir Starmer and the Labour Party in the stupidity stakes.

    Nothing short of the lights going out is going to change things. Bad times coming.

  12. JimW permalink
    April 3, 2022 8:48 pm

    Tories = Rhinos ( Republicans in name only)
    Labour= Dems ( without Machin)

  13. April 3, 2022 10:03 pm

    Since Miliband’s Climate Change Act, Labour has never had the plot on any related matters.

  14. cookers52 permalink
    April 3, 2022 10:23 pm

    Our prisons are a disgrace, NHS barely functioning, mental health care non existent, care homes where nobody cares, police force corrupt, criminal justice system a lottery, MP’s fiddle their expenses, village idiot in charge and our military demoralised. Praise and reward for the guilty and the innocent poor get shafted.

    But climate change is the issue that threatens our way of life, what a load if codswallop.

    • Crowcatcher permalink
      April 4, 2022 6:01 am

      And, don’t forget our roads and pavements being somewhat worse than any “third world” country!

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      April 4, 2022 8:26 am

      You forgot schools an absolute shambles and universities utterly ruined.

      Oddly all the stuff government runs.

      But the solution is more government.

  15. Paul H permalink
    April 3, 2022 10:37 pm

    Picked up a copy of The Light on the bus last Friday and inside was a loose foolscap page detailing the following: Climate Change. A Bill going through Parliament at the moment.
    Bill 21 2021-2022. ‘A Bill to place a duty on the government to declare a climate emergency; to amend the Climate Change Act 2008 to bring forward the date by which the UK is required to achieve net zero greenhouse gas emissions; to place a duty on the g’ment to create and implement a strategy to achieve objectives related to CC, including for the creation of environmentally-friendly jobs; to require the Sec of State to report to Parliament on proposals for increased taxation of large companies to generate revenue to be spent to further those objectives; and for connected purposes’ My abbreviations. Things are gathering apace, not looking good.

  16. April 4, 2022 7:34 am

    Relative to the U.K.’s energy policy, this article is worth reading and also, at the same time depressing because of it’s accuracy.:-
    https://www.turbulenttimes.co.uk/news/front-page/net-zero-draining-our-energy/

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      April 4, 2022 2:07 pm

      Thanks for the link – very informative.

  17. Coeur de Lion permalink
    April 4, 2022 9:24 am

    Noted on EBay replacement Nissan Leaf battery at £9999 ominously marked ‘used’. Eh?

  18. Gerry, England permalink
    April 4, 2022 11:06 am

    Who in their right mind would vote for a party led by a man who is unable to work out what the name for a human without a penis is?

    • April 4, 2022 11:29 am

      All the wokies; who after all are very clearly not in their right minds!

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      April 4, 2022 2:21 pm

      Despite living in the heart of Conservative land (Kent) I unfortunately have the only (allegedly) Labour MP, the infamous Rosie Duffield. She actually recently considered defecting to the Conservatives following heavy online abuse FROM HER OWN PARTY WORKERS (!!!) for agreeing with the views expressed by JK Rowling on gender.
      I saw her in my local community shop recently (odd because she actually now hangs out mostly in North Wales) smiled and politely said hello just to be neighbourly. She recoiled quickly and replied defensively like a scared child “Who are you?” I introduced myself ” Ray, one of your constituents, but I’m not about to badger you about anything. Just being friendly”
      She ..”I’m busy now” and walked away.
      I confirmed with others in the store that it was actually Rosie Duffield to be told she always reacts like that when acknowledged. Truly weird person.

      • April 4, 2022 2:58 pm

        Headline on the CV of those applying to be MPs:
        “I am a truly weird person”

  19. Gamecock permalink
    April 4, 2022 11:32 am

    ‘Labour calls for ‘hard-edged’ end date for oil and gas exploration’

    How about Tuesday? Push ’em for the earliest date possible, and watch them squirm. Watch THEM provide reasons why it can’t be done.

  20. April 4, 2022 7:35 pm

    Off topic, for which I apologise, but Matt McGrath’s latest puff piece “Climate change: IPCC scientists say it’s ‘now or never’ to limit warming” on the beeb website:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-60984663
    is open for comments. There are a LOT of comments calling the whole “emergency” charade into question. What has happened at the BBC?

    • Gamecock permalink
      April 4, 2022 9:19 pm

      It’s a trick. We’re actually not allowed to pick “never.”

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