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More than half of all new UK cars to be electric by 2028 in bid to ditch petrol and diesel

April 8, 2022

By Paul Homewood

 

Sheer madness!

 

 

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MORE than half of all UK cars should be electric by 2028, according to the Government, as it looks to solidify plans for a Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) mandate.

Grant Shapps is looking to set legally binding targets to speed up the shift away from petrol and diesel, and towards the mass adoption of electric vehicles. In its new report, the Department for Transport proposed legally binding annual targets that car manufacturers will be forced to meet before 2035.

In less than eight years, the Government will ban the sales of new petrol and diesel vehicles in the UK.

Just five years later, a similar ban will be introduced to restrict sales of hybrid vehicles.

The proposed scheme would start in 2024, when manufacturers would have to sell all-electric cars, which account for 22 percent of their total sales.

The Government document added: “There is a level of uncertainty based on the form of wider policy measures and future demand, but this modelling assumes that by 2030 a minimum of 80 percent of all new UK car sales are zero emission.

“It assumes a 22 percent mandate in 2024 and 52 percent in 2028.

“Alongside ZEV uptake, it also assumes further efficiency improvements to non ZEVs.”

In 2030, the European Union expects approximately 46 percent of all new car sales to be ZEV across the EU.

The document stated that the UK is a leading ZEV market in Europe, so would expect to be above this average value.

The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders said that new rules “must encourage consumers to purchase, not just compel manufacturers to produce”.

SMMT chief executive Mike Hawes said: “The danger is that consumers will lack the incentive to purchase these new vehicles in the quantities needed, keeping their older, more polluting vehicles for even longer thereby undermining the carbon savings this regulation seeks to deliver.”

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1593104/electric-car-sales-uk-zero-emission-vehicle-mandate-consultation-dft

If this is not an admission that for most drivers EVs are absolutely useless, I don’t know what is!

It also raises the question of how these quotas will be enforced. After all, car manufacturers cannot force people to buy EVs. And we already know that huge discounts don’t make any difference, because the government has already tried them.

I have read rumours that manufacturers will be fined if they don’t hit the targets, which simply means that these will be added to the price of conventional cars, to the detriment of drivers. If that is the case, people will simply tend to buy imported cars instead, who presumably won’t be affected by the quota.

This whole business is an example of how we are all gradually losing our freedom of choice.

91 Comments
  1. jimlemaistre permalink
    April 8, 2022 7:13 pm

    First . . . OHM’s Law ! . . . Resistance creates HEAT . . . About 15% of all the electricity produced is lost between production and End User . . .

    Second . . . ALL EV batteries burn at least 16% of the electricity during Charging.

    About 31% of the Electricity Produced is wasted as HEAT . . . Before you ever put your foot on the Accelerator !

    https://www.academia.edu/74915195/Electric_Cars_The_Lies_Exposed_

    https://www.academia.edu/73548362/Electric_Cars_Burn_31_More_Energy_than_Gas_Cars_Revised_

    The Facts . . . NOT fiction and ‘Emissions Free’ Propaganda . . .

    • Terence Carlin permalink
      April 8, 2022 8:23 pm

      Jim they do not listen to rational scientific argument but only to a pseudo scientific hypothesis masquerading as science. The only way out of this madness is the repeal of the Climate
      Change Act !

    • catweazle666 permalink
      April 8, 2022 8:49 pm

      Not a problem, Jim, Boris will simply repeal Ohm’s Law, just a matter of an act of Parliament is all.

      And while he’s at it he might as well cancel those inconvenient Laws of Thermodynamics too.

      I believe that old white man Isaac Newton has already been cancelled.

      And yes, they really are that scientifically illiterate.

      • jimlemaistre permalink
        April 8, 2022 11:33 pm

        PS . . . I sent this info to over 150 Journalists and Editorialists a week ago.

        NOT ONE even inquired or showed any curiosity . . . Not One question !!

        Proof of broad based ignorance in the face of overwhelming Propaganda !

      • Julian Flood permalink
        April 9, 2022 3:47 am

        STEM-illiterate. Good at History of English Theatre though.

        JF

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      April 9, 2022 6:57 pm

      50 years ago my first job was making electrolytic capacitors, Aluminium and Tantalum. One thing we had to do was keep the ESR, the Equivalent Series Resistance as low as possible. The problem if it was too high was component failure. I^2R is a killer

  2. GeoffB permalink
    April 8, 2022 7:21 pm

    MPs have PPE degrees, the E is for Economics. The worst thing you can do is artificially distort the supply/demand curve. Forcing electric cars on an unwilling population will result in one thing. Zero car sales as people delay their purchases. The European automotive industry will be destroyed.

  3. Ian Magness permalink
    April 8, 2022 7:34 pm

    When did the term BEV get ditched for ZEV? New one on me.
    At least the term BEV is accurate. ZEV is a pack of lies for all the obvious reasons from mining, through supply chains, through manufacture, through use of electricity (much of it fossil fuel created) through to disposal of the vehicles.
    Do they really think we are that stupid? Yes, it seems.

    • dave permalink
      April 9, 2022 9:38 am

      “…ZEV…”

      Is THAT why the Russian vehicles have ‘Z’ on them? They are zero-emission! Who would have thunk it?

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      April 9, 2022 10:17 am

      The switch to “ZEV” is to include Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. Still a load 0f b0ll0x though!

    • Gerry, England permalink
      April 9, 2022 11:47 am

      It probably goes back to traffic signs where the term ‘zero emission’ is used and I speak as the person who got the first traffic sign authorisation in the UK to ban anything but ‘zero emission’ vehicles from entering a street. However, to cause confusion, the City of London did not implement the restriction as signed but used TfL’s definition of ‘zero emission’ which allowed hybrids in to include the new black cab that had a petrol powered generator on board.

  4. Doug Shield permalink
    April 8, 2022 7:39 pm

    We are losing freedom of choice, the stupid, ignorant government has lost marbles. I hope that they are punished severely at the forthcoming elections. I know that I could never vote for such a useless mob. The straw that broke the camel’s back was the order to concrete over the only two viable fracking wells.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      April 9, 2022 11:50 am

      In my council area we are supporting independent resident candidates having removed the useless Tory scum from controlling the council and their plans to build a new town on farm land. If others have the chance, they should do the same but if there are no independents to vote for then the only option would be to vote to get rid of the Tories even if that means voting for a party that can’t figure out basic human biology.

  5. Realist permalink
    April 8, 2022 7:44 pm

    But actual users do not want electric cars. The manufacturers should be up in arms against being forced to make products for which there is no market. Or perhaps they want to be spare parts suppliers.

    • ThinkingScientist permalink
      April 8, 2022 7:52 pm

      Toyota has basically said no. No doubt with an eye on 4×4 sales in Africa, Middle East, South America and up coming India

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        April 8, 2022 8:15 pm

        Spot on, TS. The export market in the real world will still require loads of ICES. Who’s going to build them? Ahh. The Chinese??

      • Ben Vorlich permalink
        April 8, 2022 8:37 pm

        There’s a deal of concern around Derby about the talk of Toyota closing their Burnaston factory. If they are unable to sell their cars in the UK then there is no need to make them here.

      • Realist permalink
        April 9, 2022 7:16 am

        Perhaps it will take a few factory closures to force European politicians to see sense or are they no longer afraid of unemployment?

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        April 9, 2022 9:00 am

        I have some acquaintances who are ardent Remainers and also ardent Alarmists. They went on and on about Nissan closing its plants because of Brexit and how terrible that would be but are strangely silent about how Green nonsense is going to close car factories.

        I do find their hypocrisy sickening now.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      April 9, 2022 5:20 pm

      Well they don’t have to make them. But that means abandoning the UK, US and European markets. I suspect one scenario they are deeply concerned about is a significant reduction in car ownership because of EVs. I can’t see myself buying one new, because I don’t spend that much on a car, and it’s unclear what the second-hand market will look like. And theya re rubbish. So as I live in London I can just rent if I need to get out of town. If car ownership falls drastically, the manufacturers are in deep trouble.

      But as I note below, that’s disastrous when its caused by Brexit but just fine when it’s caused by Green.

      • Dave Andrews permalink
        April 10, 2022 3:33 pm

        With well over 1.4 BILLION ICEVs in use in the world compared to c 16m EVs the car manufacturers know full well that they will have markets for ICEVs vehicles in the the foreseeable future and EVs will become a niche product just like luxury cars are today.

      • jimlemaistre permalink
        April 10, 2022 4:21 pm

        Unless . . . You Read . . .

        https://www.academia.edu/74915195/Electric_Cars_The_Lies_Exposed_

  6. April 8, 2022 7:49 pm

    It is evident from the ‘British Energy Security Strategy’ that consumer choice is rapidly being taken away from the citizens of the UK. We will not chose what cars to buy. We will not chose how to heat our homes. We will not have a say in any planning matters, so houses, wind turbines. solar farms etc will be built wherever the government decides. Democracy is being replaced by autocracy.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      April 9, 2022 8:49 am

      It is our economic freedoms that are vanishing. What we are allowed to consume will be decided by the state. This is essentially socialism, unsurprisingly given the people desperate to force this on us. The state is now planning vast swathes of our economy, what can be produced, what can be consumed, what their prices will be. Yet this approach was decisively rejected in 2019 by the electorate.

    • Mad Mike permalink
      April 9, 2022 9:31 am

      Have you noticed how regulated we have become. I can’t think of any activity, apart from laying in bed, that isn’t regulated and even the bed has to be made according to some regulation or other.

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        April 9, 2022 5:22 pm

        Very true. I was going to write an article based on that but somebody beat me to it (and it wasn’t as good!). Sheets, duvet, pillow cases, multiple regulations. Breakfast, multiple regulations and warnings, drive to work, tens of regulations on the car, hundreds on the drive. And so on. Every step, every action, every consumable, highly regulated.

    • bobn permalink
      April 9, 2022 11:45 pm

      You will be allowed a Lada. And Benevolent Govt gives you a choice – you can have a yellow or a pink one.
      Now the proposed new UK system worked well in the Soviet Union; didn’t it?
      Welcome to Soviet Britain.

      • catweazle666 permalink
        April 9, 2022 11:59 pm

        A Lada?
        Nothing so grand, more likely a Trabant!

  7. ThinkingScientist permalink
    April 8, 2022 7:51 pm

    Standby for (a) run on diesel and petrol vehicle sales followed by (b) collapse of new vehicle market

  8. ThinkingScientist permalink
    April 8, 2022 7:55 pm

    So I either have to commit to buying g a large diesel 4×4 within 2 years or keep my current Discovery 4 forever.

    Otherwise no more towing a caravan, or I our case a 684 Airstream trailer

    • Stuart Brown permalink
      April 8, 2022 8:42 pm

      I started to add a similar thing to my previous comment without reading yours – then realised my 12 year old diesel has to be replaced while I still can get a petrol powered one.

      I was thinking it might last me out given I get my bus pass next year, and my last car did way more than this one. But I deplore that 20% of my fuel comes from Vlad, and, if I’m to be driving into my 80s like my old Dad, then I also need to get a car I can still work out how to turn on!

  9. ThinkingScientist permalink
    April 8, 2022 7:59 pm

    Standby for the grey market in “used” vehicles with 10 miles on the clock.

    Or alternatively hello Cuba UK

    • Realist permalink
      April 9, 2022 7:08 am

      Probably a combination of Cuba UK and personal imports

  10. Harry Passfield permalink
    April 8, 2022 8:11 pm

    ‘….looking to set legally-biding targets…’ (Shapps)
    I think the word for that is ‘hubris’. Another, is ‘Messiah-complex’.
    Unfortunately, he might not be around to see the absolute, catastrophic failure if his arrogant empire-building.
    If EVs are such a great idea they will not need legal support as people will be falling over themselves to adopt such a wonderful concept.

  11. catweazle666 permalink
    April 8, 2022 8:44 pm

    EVs could take up to 70,000 miles to be cleaner than a petrol car
    Volvo reveals full-life CO2 emissions for its latest model and huge impact energy sources have on cars’ green performance

    Electric vehicles could take between 30,000 and 70,000 miles of driving before they reach emissions equality with a regular petrol car, according to new data released by Volvo.

    The Swedish car maker, which has previously called for other brands to be honest about the environmental impact of their EVs, has revealed the whole-life CO2 emissions of its latest all-electric model – the C40 – and how it compares to an equivalent petrol model – the XC40.

    https://www.nationalworld.com/lifestyle/cars/evs-could-take-up-to-70000-miles-to-be-cleaner-than-a-petrol-car-3450426

    • jimlemaistre permalink
      April 8, 2022 11:40 pm

      Tesla ‘S’ causes 15% more CO2 to be emitted into the atmosphere than the equally sized Toyota Camry per mile driven from day one. Those are USA numbers including Hydro, Nuclear, Bio-fuel, Solar and Wind . . . Combined . . .

      https://www.academia.edu/62574334/Tesla_Versus_Toyota_Camry

    • StephenP permalink
      April 9, 2022 12:13 am

      At what mileage will the batteries need replacing, and at what cost?
      Remember to compare charging at home with fast charging.
      Did Shapps say anything about upgrading the electricity supply, cables and sub-stations in order to charge these ZEVs?

      • Dave Andrews permalink
        April 10, 2022 3:56 pm

        Interesting discussion between a blogger who works for vehicle to grid.co.uk and a Doctor of Engineering in Southampton University. The latter points out that the UK has c. 300,000 Low Voltage substations and c. 1m feeders with about 450,000kms of buried cables . He estimates that about 80% of this would need to be replaced because EVs and heat pumps would overload the system.

        A while back the estimated cost of upgrading this system was calculated at £60 billion and would require digging up almost all of the non motor way roads in the country.

        https://v2g.co.uk/2021/05/electric-vehicles-as-energy-smart-appliances/

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      April 9, 2022 5:24 pm

      I wonder what they assumed for electricity generation?

  12. The Informed Consumer permalink
    April 8, 2022 8:54 pm

    Freedom of choice ~sigh~

    Remember that?

  13. Tim Leeney permalink
    April 8, 2022 9:02 pm

    Remember remember the 5th of November.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      April 8, 2022 9:40 pm

      Thumbs up to that one!

  14. jchr12 permalink
    April 8, 2022 9:08 pm

    Whoever imagined communism would wear a Conservative mask?

    • Gerry, England permalink
      April 9, 2022 11:55 am

      I think it is more fascism as it involves the corporates as Nazi Germany did as opposed to the state stealing everything private – and making a complete horlicks of running them – as the communists did.

      However, I am still baffled as to how the corporates think their empires will continue if the population is bombed back to medieval poverty.

      • April 9, 2022 5:47 pm

        Communism, socialism, Marxism always looks great on paper. It’s one sure route to poverty & war, or maybe war then poverty. When those who believe they’ll be the ‘leaders’ realize they too have lost all, that’s when it’ll kick off.

  15. William George permalink
    April 8, 2022 9:12 pm

    I have just taken delivery of a new petrol engined Mazda CX-5. I’m 76 and hopefully this will see my driving out. This car was ordered in November 2021, orders after that date will not be delivered before July 2022. The supply chain is compromised and this will have a greater impact on EVs because of the scarcity of the precious metals. Shapps has to keep smoking because he needs the fag packets for his next act of lunacy.

  16. Cheshire Red permalink
    April 8, 2022 9:27 pm

    One thing’s for sure; these are not Conservatives.

    I know it’s often heard BTL but honestly, I can’t endorse this party or these policies. I won’t be voting for them again until NZ hysteria is finished.

    • Crowcatcher permalink
      April 9, 2022 6:54 am

      You forget one thing, in a lot of constuencies if you put a blue rosette on a monkey it would become the MP – ooh! hang on a minute………………

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        April 9, 2022 8:53 am

        Not any more. What were 12-15 Tory leads in rural constituencies have vanished. And vanished everywhere. The rise of a Tory Metro Elite to mirror that of Labour has destroyed traditional Tory support in lots of areas.

      • Gerry, England permalink
        April 9, 2022 11:59 am

        Yep, works round here in Surrey and neighbouring counties. Get the Tory nomination and you are already an MP. the only ripple was back in 2010 when although some Tories saw an increase in majority, the biggest gainers of votes was UKIP with swings approaching 5%. That scared Call Me Dave into his referendum promise in 2015 where he planned not to win outright so the Liberal coalition could continue and he could blame Calamity Clegg for not holding the promised referendum. Luckily, he won and had to see it through and lose.

  17. Ben Vorlich permalink
    April 8, 2022 10:13 pm

    Imports of 2nd hand Japanese EVs is going to.be difficult.

    The recent sinking of the Felicity Ace car carrier is already having an impact on the broader shipping industry. Automotive transport companies are beginning to implement policies restricting or outright banning EVs out of concerns for the fire risks posed by batteries

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/45112/car-shipping-giant-bans-used-evs-after-felicity-ace-sinking

  18. lorde late permalink
    April 8, 2022 10:26 pm

    The road tax is allready at punitive levels for older perfectly usable vehicles, I see this trend continuing

    • Realist permalink
      April 9, 2022 7:11 am

      And to add insult to injury: the road tax doesn’t even get used for maintaining the existing roads let alone building the still missing ones.

    • Dave Andrews permalink
      April 10, 2022 4:04 pm

      Road tax and vehicle excise duty brought in £37 billion to the UK Treasury in 2019-20. EVs are exempt from paying these currently.

      • Realist permalink
        April 10, 2022 7:53 pm

        Did even one billion of that 37 billion actually get spent on at least maintaining the roads or did the revenue just disappear into the black hole of public spending? But we know it is the latter. Yet absolute silence about this scandal.

  19. April 8, 2022 10:42 pm

    This’ll be fun. First thing that will happen is the prices for 2nd hand ICE cars will explode. Second thing that will happen is smuggling. Cheap Chinese ICE cars will arrive in places like Bulgaria, get driven across the EU and up the Chunnel to Britain. The pollies won’t stop this practice because they don’t want to annoy nice Mr Xi.

    What won’t happen is half of cars being electric by 2028. Not a chance in hell, oops, Gaia’s utopia.

  20. roger permalink
    April 8, 2022 10:54 pm

    There seems to be a fashion for using Z on vehicles in dictatorships.

  21. April 8, 2022 10:59 pm

    So, let me see if I understand this.
    In 6 yrs, 50% of all UK cars “should” be EVs. Got a few observations.
    1. Each owner will need a spare 13 kW capacity to charge them. New service entrance, new electric panel.
    2. Distribution transformers, primary and secondary distribution cabling, substations, and transmission lines and switchgear will have to be upgraded to double existing capacity.
    3. Electrical generation will have to double in dispatchable capacity to handle the new load.
    4. If one couples these loads with the rush to Heat Pumps, double generation again as the HPs use electric heat strips if they can’t keep up with the load and in the defrost cycle.

    5. What do apartment dwellers do? Where do they charge vehicles?
    6. Many countries ban parking EVs in underground car parks as a fire precaution as EV fires are near impossible to extinguish. Is enough exposed parking available?
    7. Some property insurers say that indoor parking of an EV at a residential garage voids fire insurance. I wonder what commercial insurers say.

    Please note: New transmission lines are USD 2 to 4 Million / mile pole mounted and depending on voltage, more. Primary distribution overhead below about 138 KV and Secondary distribution underground below 15 kV are USD 2 Million / mile. Planning, permitting, execution, of new transmission/distribution upgrades take 10 years from concept to completion. New substation transformers take 1 to 3 years leadtime. The switchgear costs would stun you into a stupor. There are not enough trained and experienced HV electricians to do the work, materials to do it with, time to do it, or money to pay for it.

    How do they expect to accomplish all of this in 6 years? Pixie Dust? Unicorn Farts?

    These issues are not elements that one may casually dismiss unless complete failure is the objective.

    • 3x2 permalink
      April 9, 2022 4:08 pm

      1. Each owner will need a spare 13 kW capacity to charge them. New service entrance, new electric panel. […]

      But before all of that you’ll probably need some kind of electrical energy.

      Oops.

    • MarkR permalink
      April 9, 2022 5:12 pm

      The real plan, surely, is that most of us should not be able to have cars. The fundamental idea behind all this seems to be to try and limit travel opportunities, economic opportunities, and freedom in all areas of life. Why? Because they might harm the environment.

  22. April 8, 2022 11:09 pm

    Thursday there was a Radio4 documentary prog
    asking if Electric Cars are “the best thing since sliced bread”
    I of course expected libmob magical thinking propaganda
    They first established at that current rates their test car would save 10p per mile
    That led to them thinking you’d have to drive a long way to make extra purchase cost worth it .
    The doc did feature some fanboys claiming the second hand EV does keep its value
    and that batteries are lasting longer.
    But in the end they sat on the fence.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00162yr

  23. April 8, 2022 11:11 pm

    I heard that London Uber drivers buy a Prius cos it has zero congestion charge
    and then run it on the dirty old petrol engine anyway.

  24. Joe Public permalink
    April 8, 2022 11:29 pm

    The Conservative Party has committed Seppuku.

  25. April 8, 2022 11:50 pm

    I’ve a few observations and questions about this.

    In 6 years, it is proposed to have 50% of UK cars be EVs. In 2019, there were 19,236,721 petrol cars and 12,852,314 diesel cars registered in the UK. Near 32 Million cars. Half that is 16 Million cars. Each requires a 7.4 to 22 kW charging capacity be available.

    Let’s pick 7.4 kW. That’s 118.4 GW of charging power that is required in total. If half the cars need charging on average, you could get by with about 60 GW of new generation.

    However, if one adds in the loads of using air source heat pumps with 10 KW heat strips for the estimated 23.9 million dwellings in England at 31 March 2017, that adds an additional 358 GW of new generation capacity required. Let’s say only 80% of them are ever on simultaneously, that’s only 287 GW.

    So, we need at least nearly 350 GW of new, dispatchable, generation. And, we need new transmission lines, primary and secondary distribution cabling, new substations, new switchgear, new service entrances at each residence, new circuit breaker panels, and a new plug in device.

    Overhead transmission lines are USD 2-4 Million per mile depending on voltage and terrain, primary and secondary distribution is 1 -2 Million/mile, substations are some 15 to 30 million each, and the upgrade for each residence would be on the order of 10,000 GBP. It takes roughly 10 years from concept to completion for each section of new transmission line and about 5 yrs to restring existing towers for each section of line. Large utility contractors can likely string 10 miles/month or erect new towers and lines at 2 miles/month. Then there’s underground boring for residential and city distribution at some 100,000 GBP / mile.

    Constructing new power plants is a 5 to 15 year adventure depending on siting, fuel type, etc.
    A 2 GW nuclear plant is a 10 to 15 yr adventure. And you only need 175 of them.

    And somehow the UK Govt thinks all this will happen in 6 years.

    There are not enough skilled workers, HV electricians, equipment, materials, money, to do this. It isn’t possible. It has taken over 100 years to get the grid you have and someone thinks they can double or triple that capacity in 6 years? That’s insane.

    Each residence is effectively being asked to spend 10,000 GBP to upgrade their service entrance and panels, another 15,000 to 25,000 GBP to add air source heat pumps ( about 600 Billion GBP) , then pay for the grid upgrades of some 2 Trillion GBP in new generation and only God knows how much to restring the power grid, perhaps another 2 Trillion. That’s only about 170,000 GBP per residential dwelling, and this doesn’t count any commercial or industrial properties.

    It is almost beginning to look like the UK Govt believes in Fairy Dust, Unicorns, Magical Thinking, VooDoo Economics, and Magic.

    • jimlemaistre permalink
      April 8, 2022 11:54 pm

      PLUS . . . the 31% Electricity lost between the power station and the Accelerator

      OHM’s LAW . . .

    • April 9, 2022 12:10 am

      Oh, and if this isn’t enough, you get to add another 30 new 2 GW generating plants to support the remaining 50% of vehicles right after achieving the first miracle.

      This is industrial strength stupidity and hubris. UK doesn’t need more elected idiots, it needs to replace the ones it has with Chartered Engineers and Economists.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      April 9, 2022 8:57 am

      No, it’s half of NEW cars.

    • Mikehig permalink
      April 9, 2022 9:59 am

      For EV power requirements it’s more realistic to look at typical daily mileage and work back to the amount of power needed. Most EVs do not need charging every day or anywhere near it, especially if “road warriors” are not included as they will stay with ICE.
      A far bigger issue, imho, which is missing from all talk of EVs is that they are an incremental load (Iain Reid makes the same point on here). Thus they are supplied by the “balancing” power source. Since all of the zero-carbon power is always fully-allocated and there is almost never any excess, EVs are powered by gas or even coal – in the UK at least.

  26. April 9, 2022 1:07 am

    Whilst the UK chases this EV fantasy, they do so in the face of global food scarcity and price increases. “The UN Food and Agriculture Organization reported on Friday ( 8 Apr 2022) they are recording the highest Food Price Index since they started recording thirty years ago. With record highs in prices for cereals, vegetable oils, dairy and meats”
    https://www.fao.org/worldfoodsituation/foodpricesindex/en/

    Every Government action taken since early 2020 has been one bad policy after another; building failure upon failure, crisis upon crisis, bad decision upon bad decision, bringing us to a precipice summed up by saying “the absence of food will change things.”

    Food prices will rise some 30% to 50% this year. Every nation is 9 meals away from anarchy.

    And these clowns think EVs are the salient issue? That is beyond stupid.

  27. April 9, 2022 1:49 am

    It would appear the idea is to ban from car ownership all those who do not have off road parking including all the apartment dwellers whose building car parks do not provide charging facilities.
    This to ease the enormous drain on electricity supply for these CEVs that nobody had figured out will be required.

    • Vernon E permalink
      April 9, 2022 2:59 pm

      Yes, of course, you are correct. The real strategy is to drive all humanity on to public transport and this smacks of UN Agenda 30 for Sustainability. The WEF has more power than the parliament.

  28. Julian Flood permalink
    April 9, 2022 3:53 am

    STEM-illiterate. Good at History of English Theatre though.

    JF

  29. Julian Flood permalink
    April 9, 2022 4:41 am

    The sheer gullibility of Mr Shapps proposal has made me interested in the Secretary of State’s background and his qualifications for running his remit.

    Wikipedia is interesting about his past business experience and, to be polite, he comes across as a bit of a spiv, the sort of bloke flogging dodgy nylons during WWII. His most relevant venture, according to Wiki at least, was an ebook about making 20k in 20… days, weeks, maybe months, all equally improbable. For your 497 dollars you got an ebook ‘toolkit’ advising you to make your own toolkit and recruit lots of other suckers to do the same using your toolkit… Allegedly: you know what wiki is like, they’ll say anything. Anyway, it was perfectly legal.

    It then dawned on me what is going on. The used car market is about to explode because of government policies. What better qualification for an entrepreneurial Party leader than someone with experience of perfectly legal but slightly dodgy schemes. Conservative Cars, coming to a bombsite near you, lovely motor, squire, diesel, only 200,000 on the clock.

    Here’s my business idea. I’m going to sell an app online that helps STEM-challenged Ministers catch up with engineering constraints on off-the-wall ideas, the sort of unconstrained hogwash that must pass as sensible discussion in Cabinet. It will generate useful phrases such as ‘we don’t have the infrastructure in place’, or ‘that proposal ignores the laws of physics’ etc. A snip at £500. It will include, FREE, a useful ebook: Thermodynamics for Dummies.

    • David Pounder permalink
      April 9, 2022 10:40 am

      Hahaha very funny but horribly true. One observation though – how many in government have the reading comprehension skills to understand the logic and reasoning of science? My MP certainly does not!

  30. dodgy geezer permalink
    April 9, 2022 6:53 am

    Easy to force people to buy electric cars.

    Road tax for non-electric vehicles is set at £10k per year…..

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      April 9, 2022 8:56 am

      Then you have to make the fine for not having it even higher.

    • April 9, 2022 9:53 am

      But first you have to abolish voting or you’re dumped at election time.

      • April 9, 2022 9:43 pm

        The main parties are all agreed that the UK needs to be demolished. They haven’t been dumped out so far.

  31. Phoenix44 permalink
    April 9, 2022 9:04 am

    Why would manufacturers be making improvements to ICE cars if they are going to be prevented from selling them? I can’t imagine anyone is investing money now in “further efficiencies.”

    I’m curious – what happens to Formula 1 then? It must surely be banned quite soon?

    • Mikehig permalink
      April 9, 2022 9:51 am

      Aiui F1 is moving to synthetic fuel which is made, at great expense, from green hydrogen and captured CO2 (somewhere there is a Colditz castle full of would-be escapee CO2 molecules).

  32. Micky R permalink
    April 9, 2022 9:08 am

    Who would have thought that the “The Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders” wants consumers to buy new cars?

  33. April 9, 2022 10:12 am

    A possible clue on the new EV proposal, from the energy strategy document:

    Smartening up the system with more flexible pricing, through Time of Use tariffs and
    battery storage through Electric Vehicles.

    EV battery degradation for all!

  34. MarkR permalink
    April 9, 2022 5:03 pm

    Government: Stop trying to destroy the economy!

    We can’t afford your plans. Why do you want to destroy the economy and people’s lives to achieve some arbitrary goals that can provide no net benefit to your own constituents. It’s almost as if you want to destroy the British economy for the benefit of some foreign country or countries.

    Just leave us alone. Stop the Soviet-style command economy madness. Five year plans and the like didn’t work for the Soviet Union’s economy and they won’t work here. They will just impoverish us.

    We (supposedly) live in a market economy. That being so, let it go. Allow the market to decide. If and when electric vehicles genuinely represent a better deal than ICEs then the market will naturally change over. But trying to force it, as the government seems intent on doing, is economic and social insanity of a truly Soviet kind.

    • MarkR permalink
      April 9, 2022 5:05 pm

      Further to my earlier comment, I should add that even though I am not a Conservative supporter, the fact that it is a supposedly Conservative government that is trying so hard to damage the UK business competitiveness and increase everyone’s cost of living is particularly bizarre.

      • catweazle666 permalink
        April 9, 2022 6:58 pm

        There hasn’t been a Conservative government since 28/11/1990.

  35. April 10, 2022 1:03 am

    Reblogged this on Gds44's Blog.

  36. 2hmp permalink
    April 10, 2022 11:15 am

    The Climate Change Act will destroy Boris and the Conservatives

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