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Green Party Opposes Carbon Capture–I Wonder Why?

August 19, 2022

By Paul Homewood

 

Yes, I get the US Green Party’s emails!!

This one is very telling:

 

 

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Right now, Democrats in Washington DC are patting themselves on the back for passing the Biden administration’s "Inflation Reduction Act." The bill, a product of months of concessions to members of their own party, was praised by President Biden as "the biggest step forward on Climate ever," but when you look beyond the media hype you see one of the bill’s largest winners: Big Oil.

At the bill’s signing just two days ago, President Biden stated "With this law, the American people won, and the special interests lost." This is all too typical of the gaslighting rhetoric of this administration and its allies in the House and Senate. How can they claim that when this act:

  • Opens up thousands of square miles in the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska to new oil drilling
  • Requires millions of acres of federal land and water to be offered up for new oil and gas leasing
  • Fast-tracks new oil pipelines and processing plants, ignoring environmental regulations
  • Promotes bogus climate solutions from the oil and gas industry like carbon capture and storage

The Green Party is not afraid to stand up for the truth. Unlike the Democrats, we have no big donors in the fossil fuel industry to buy off our commitment to people and planet. We are the only national party committed to implementing a science-backed, Eco-Socialist Green New Deal. We can make these commitments because we’re not bound to elite funders. We rely on contributions from people just like you! Please give today so we can keep organizing, campaigning, and exposing cowardice and corruption!

Note this bit:

 

Promotes bogus climate solutions from the oil and gas industry like carbon capture and storage

This proves that they are not concerned about climate change at all; if they were, they would embrace carbon capture, (and for that matter nuclear).

Instead, their real objective is to take away the benefits of modern society, reduce consumption and return society to its pre-industrial roots.

36 Comments
  1. GeoffB permalink
    August 19, 2022 7:18 pm

    Green loonies see end of their dreams and ask for more donations!

    • In The Real World permalink
      August 19, 2022 9:15 pm

      Patrick Moore , one of the original founders of Greenpeace , left the organisation because he said that it was no longer anything to do with the environment , but had become a revolutionary Marxist group .
      And the whole Global Warming scam is just designed to bring about the end of Western economies by taking all of their money ..

      So the Green loonies do not care about what works , [ nobody in their right mind could believe that the UKs CO2, which is 1 part in 10 million parts of the atmosphere, would have any measureable effect on climate ,] but all of their demands are meant to destroy non communist countries systems to speed up the ” One World Socialist Government “

      • Chaswarnertoo permalink
        August 20, 2022 10:16 am

        Patrick also said they had achieved their goals as every company now takes the environment into account.

      • David V permalink
        August 20, 2022 2:02 pm

        ~400ppm = four hundred parts in one million – don’t exaggerate!

      • In The Real World permalink
        August 20, 2022 3:56 pm

        David V. 400 ppm is the total amount in the atmosphere .
        Of which only about 3% comes from human use , of which only 1% comes from the UK .
        So that makes 1 part in 10 million .

  2. nessimmersion permalink
    August 19, 2022 7:28 pm

    Yes & No.
    Given that there is no scientific rationale behind the hatred of CO2 that wonderful trace gas & plant food, then carbon capture is indeed bogus.

    • Andrew Harding permalink
      August 19, 2022 10:26 pm

      CO2 is essential for life, anyone who thinks otherwise, needs a Remedial Education!

      Not politically correct, but accurate!

      • Chaswarnertoo permalink
        August 20, 2022 10:12 am

        Anyone who believes in net zero should stop exhaling CO2, right now. Greentards.

  3. Broadlands permalink
    August 19, 2022 7:34 pm

    “The Green Party is not afraid to stand up for the truth.”

    The truth? The fact is that carbon capture and storage (scaled up and world-wide), is only taking out ~40 million tons a year when 7,800 million would be needed to take out and store just ONE ppm. Try to spin that truth, Socialist Green Deals.

  4. terbreugghen permalink
    August 19, 2022 8:06 pm

    Saw a recent article on carbon capture research on Judith Curry’s Climate Etc.

    Also saw this about gas and oil leases in the Gulf:

    https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/3485545-biden-administration-cancels-oil-and-gas-lease-sales-in-alaska-gulf-of-mexico/

  5. Ray Sanders permalink
    August 19, 2022 8:21 pm

    So the Greens don’t like Nuclear and they don’t like CCS and they actually don’t like hydro electricity either. Well that’s f****ed every realistic “low carbon” option.
    Jolly well done…meanwhile in the real world.

    • In The Real World permalink
      August 20, 2022 11:27 am

      Slightly off topic , but along with the fact that we are going to suffer major problems with energy .
      Local news had another few hundred homes without power this morning .Claimed to be a cable fault
      Looks like they have at least several different stories to explain all of the shutdowns that are coming from their Net Zero , Green energy disasters that are building up .

      • John Hultquist permalink
        August 20, 2022 6:20 pm

        Consider, in the real world schist does happen.

  6. Harry Passfield permalink
    August 19, 2022 8:46 pm

    “The Green Party is not afraid to stand up for the truth. Unlike the Democrats, we have no big donors in the fossil fuel industry to buy off our commitment to people and planet. We are the only national party committed to implementing a science-backed, Eco-Socialist Green New Deal. We can make these commitments because we’re not bound to elite funders
    (My bold) – ‘not bound by elite funders’?- I bet! Gates? Soros? WEF?

    • dennisambler permalink
      August 21, 2022 4:40 pm

      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/joe-bidens-inflation-reduction-act-secretly-brought-you-bill-gates

      “The Democrats’ “Inflation Reduction Act” – which according to the Congressional Budget Office will raise taxes on the middle class to the tune of $20 billion – not to mention unleash an army of IRS agents on working class Americans over the next decade, was made possible by Bill Gates and (in smaller part) Larry Summers, who have been known to hang out together.

      In a Tuesday Bloomberg article that reads more like a newsletter for the Gates fan club, the billionaire Microsoft co-founder recalls how earlier this year, as moderate Democratic Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema continued to block the tax-and-spend legislation over concerns that it would raise taxes on the middle class (it will), Gates says he tapped into a relationship with Manchin that he’d been cultivating since at least 2019.”

  7. W Flood permalink
    August 19, 2022 9:03 pm

    Makes no difference. As I keep explaining ccs does not work.

    • Mikehig permalink
      August 24, 2022 8:21 pm

      It does in the right circumstances. Oil companies are now being paid to sequester CO2 into old gas fields in the Gulf of Mexico. Some are combining sequestration with enhanced oil recovery so they get double-bubble.
      Allam-cycle power plants will make sequestration and/or use of CO2 much easier.

  8. Chris Phillips permalink
    August 19, 2022 9:26 pm

    “Yes & No.
    Given that there is no scientific rationale behind the hatred of CO2 that wonderful trace gas & plant food, then carbon capture is indeed bogus”

    Yes, both the Greens and climate change sceptics question carbon capture & storage but for different reasons:
    The climate change sceptics doubt that it will work without requiring large amounts of energy input, probably exceeding the energy produced when the CO2 was emitted.
    The Greens fear it will by TOO effective thus taking away from them their prophesies of climate doom which they use to try to bring about political and sociatal change

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      August 20, 2022 2:26 pm

      It is generally believed that Greens are anti nuclear not because they think it doesn’t work but because they know it does!

      • davidrussell22 permalink
        August 20, 2022 10:11 pm

        Greens hate people. Why? Because people have an impact on nature. So what? Because Gaia is their God and human impacts are sacrilege.

    • dennisambler permalink
      August 21, 2022 4:46 pm

      Amazing how the Precautionary Principle takes a hike when CCS is mentioned, storing concentrated CO2 indefinitely, what a problem for future generations. Another money black hole, doomed to failure and catastrophe.

  9. It doesn't add up... permalink
    August 19, 2022 9:51 pm

    Two more laughs:

    https://www.current-news.co.uk/news/green-party-eyes-nationalising-the-uks-top-five-energy-firms

    Scroll on down to read of the Good Law project (run by fox batterer in a Kimono Jolyon Maugham) thinking about suing OFGEM.

  10. August 19, 2022 9:56 pm

    What they are really saying is AGW is good and we will fight anybody and/or anything that tries to reduce it.

  11. Malcolm permalink
    August 19, 2022 10:05 pm

    All Green groups are neo-Romantics, Rousseau inspired, dreaming of becoming small holders and crofters in a wood-fired, horse drawn, world. Their plan is to wipe away all modern industry and what in their confusion they call capitalism.

    They will need to reduce the world population to late Middle Ages level of about a billion. What is their plan for that? Mass starvation?

    • davidrussell22 permalink
      August 20, 2022 10:12 pm

      By implication they hate humanity.

  12. August 20, 2022 7:47 am

    “a science-backed, Eco-Socialist Green New Deal”. That says all you need to know about Greens (water melons).

    • Chaswarnertoo permalink
      August 20, 2022 10:14 am

      With the same IQ as a water melon.

  13. davidrussell22 permalink
    August 20, 2022 10:13 pm

    Greens hate people. Why? Because people have an impact on nature. So what? Because Gaia is their God and human impacts are sacrilege.

  14. August 21, 2022 2:18 am

    Remember the Ozone scare? Antarctica is Southern hemisphere, where 1/9 of humanity lives. It is mostly ocean. Zoe Phin reverse-engineered some temperature data from colors for lack of source data and the upshot is that the northern hemisphere shows a slight warming trend while the southern shows a similar cooling trend. If water vapor is involved, it makes northern falling lake and river levels less surprising. Irrigation and industry scatter water where it evaporates. The Brewer-Dobson model from bomb test days shows that goes on in the Northern hemisphere stays mostly in the Northern hemisphere. But water vapor isn’t scary.

  15. knudgeknudge permalink
    August 21, 2022 7:17 am

    It does seem odd to claim they don’t care about climate change and don’t support carbon capture – if carbon capture is irrelevant?

  16. M E permalink
    August 21, 2022 11:12 am

    This is what I think too. At that level of civilisation we will be back in the era of plagues and starvation when the harvest is bad. Easily accomplished.

  17. thecliffclavenoffinance permalink
    August 21, 2022 12:29 pm

    i VISIT AT LEAST 12 CLIMATE AND ENERGY WEBSITES EVERY DAY
    In five English speaking nations.

    My opinion: This is the best climate science and energy website in the world for 2022. Paul Homewood is an extremely reliable and consistently good author and deserves praise. (Note: This complement was not posted by Mrs. Homewood ha ha )

  18. August 24, 2022 12:14 pm

    Big Green hedgefunds don’t like CCS cos it would knock solar/wind for sex if fossil fuels became lower CO2
    Likewise they don’t like fracking and nuclear.

    I suspect they fund green activists

    • malcolm bell permalink
      August 24, 2022 1:03 pm

      Trees have been doing carbon capture and storage for 400 million years. Now the so-called “greens” want to cut them down, burn them and release all their carbon as soon as possible.

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    • Mikehig permalink
      August 24, 2022 8:24 pm

      Then they must really hate “Blue Oil” which is carbon-negative!

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