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Europe’s hypocrisy on fossil fuels

August 29, 2022

By Paul Homewood

 

How India views Europe’s climate hypocrisy!

 

 

 

 

32 Comments
  1. Ian Magness permalink
    August 29, 2022 6:04 pm

    What a great rant and right on the money! Absolutely fair enough.

    • that man permalink
      August 29, 2022 6:58 pm

      But, hang on a mo…..
      Why doesn’t the narrator list India among the nations exporting coal to Europe? Perhaps because, although India is the world’s second-largest producer, it is also the world’s second-largest importer!

      Also from a contemporary BBC report on COP 26: “At the start of the summit, Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi pledged to cut emissions to net zero by 2070, reduce carbon emissions by one billion tonnes by 2030, and raise the share of renewables in the energy mix to 50%, among others.
      The ambitious announcements, welcomed then, now stand in stark contrast to India’s last-minute intervention to water down the language on coal.”

      Evidently, India can avoid criticism because it’s an “emerging and developing country” (EDC).

      • that man permalink
        August 29, 2022 7:07 pm

        ….she did, though, illustrate very well the resurgence of coal, which is an encouraging trend in at least mitigating the appalling energy situation. Just a pity our idiotic politicians knocked down so many of our serviceable c-f power stations!

    • Robert Christopher permalink
      August 29, 2022 9:01 pm

      I am pleased she is on our side! 🙂

      The more that join us, the better.

  2. jimlemaistre permalink
    August 29, 2022 6:15 pm

    We can Compare ‘Apples to Apples’ How Big is Your Country? . . . How Much do You Pollute?

    CO2 PER SQUARE KILOMETER

    Rank Country Tonnes CO2 / KM2
    1 The Netherlands 5,143
    2 South Korea 5,119
    3 Japan 3,196
    4 Germany 2,202
    5 United Kingdom 2,152
    6 Italy 1,477
    7 India 1,087
    8 Switzerland 978
    9 China 741
    10 France 693
    11 Spain 653
    12 USA 600
    13 Turkey 368
    14 Mexico 241
    15 Indonesia 212
    16 Saudi Arabia 201
    17 Russia 100
    18 Canada 54
    19 Australia 51
    20 Brazil 46

    Isn’t That Something . . . The Netherlands . . .

    The Worst Polluting Nation on Earth . . .

    This is what happens when we put a Common Denominator into Numbers, Beyond totals

    This Paper, Presents Data, in This Way, for the First Time . . . Ever!

    Putting Context into Raw Data, Seven of the Eleven Worst Polluters are European Countries. Canada, Australia and Brazil, are often singled-out by The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) as Laggards on the Environmental Front, while they produce one One-Hundredth of the pollution of The Netherlands and One-Eightieth of either Germany or England. Why have we NEVER been told?? . . .

    The European Union has 27 votes at the United Nations, they lead the charge Defining the Actions and Goals of The IPCC at the United Nations. Seven European countries are members of the G-20 who produce 80% of Global GDP. By extension, they are responsible for 80% of Global Pollution. Seven European Countries, Among the G-20 nations, have very High Population Density, among the Worst Records in Deforestation, Protecting Natural Habitat or CO2 Sequestration (removed by forests) and among the Highest CO2 Production Per Square Kilometer. 7 of the worst 11 . . . with Cap and Trade . . . The World follows Their Lead . . .??

    https://www.allaboutenergy.net/66-environment/pollution/3201-global-environmentalism-who-is-the-worst-polluter-of-all?highlight=WyJqaW0iLCJsZSIsIm1haXN0cmUiLCJqaW0gbGUiLCJqaW0gbGUgbWFpc3RyZSIsImxlIG1haXN0cmUiXQ==

    • Martin Brumby permalink
      August 29, 2022 6:57 pm

      Could be worse, Jim
      Just check out the UN Human Rights Council and their constant criticism of Israel.

      Members:- Bolivia, China, Côte d’Ivoire, Cuba, France, Gabon, Malawi, Mexico, Nepal, Pakistan, Russian Federation, Senegal, Ukraine, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan.

      Bastions of Human Rights every one! (Sometimes get some pushback from UK & France, but not often).

    • August 29, 2022 8:37 pm

      You can twist stats any way you want to prove just about anything. On your basis The Netherlands should just kill half its population, job done. Actually that is exactly what the people behind net zero would like, in every country.

      • jimlemaistre permalink
        August 29, 2022 9:35 pm

        Maybe you didn’t learn about ‘Lowest common denominator’ when you took math in high school . . . 87 % of Great Briton has been deforested . . . You want to defend that too . . . Canada has 4 million sq km of forest . . . Enough to absorb ALL the CO2 we produce . . . Can you say that ???

    • August 29, 2022 9:22 pm

      CO2 isn’t a pollutant
      using that word is PR trickery.

      • jimlemaistre permalink
        August 29, 2022 9:46 pm

        You are ABSOLUTELY correct ! But it is a good gauge of how much pollutants we DO put into the atmosphere attached to the CO2 . . . until we start installing Smokestack Scrubbers and Electrostatic Precipitators and nitrous Oxide Burners we will NOT be cleaning up the PLANET . . .

      • August 29, 2022 10:24 pm

        Jim “until we *start* installing Smokestack Scrubbers and Electrostatic Precipitators and nitrous Oxide Burners we will NOT be cleaning up the PLANET . . .”
        That’s misleading power stations already have cleaning tech
        Drax has Smokestack Scrubbers,
        Drax has Electrostatic Precipitators
        “nitrous Oxide Burners” what’s that ?
        Do you mean “LOW nitrous Oxide Burners” ?
        2011 “1 Aug 2011 — … low-nitrous-oxide burners have been fitted to most power stations,”

        You mentioned these things back in March too

        It reminds me of the claim Nuclear emits radioactive particles
        then it turns out forest fires emit much more
        Here I am saying nature emits plenty of pollutants
        As ever what counts is whatever pollutants actually enter your lungs and whether they do much harm there
        It doesn’t matter if they escape to high atmosphere or get washed out by frequent rain.

    • Phil O'Sophical permalink
      August 30, 2022 10:21 am

      Jim, I am surprised you of all people are playing their game by equating CO2 with pollution. Or maybe I missed your tongue deep in your cheek. But it’s an interesting table nonetheless.

      • jimlemaistre permalink
        August 30, 2022 1:57 pm

        CO2 . . . Can be used to ‘Gauge’ the ‘REAL’ pollution that is actually coming out of the smokestacks of the World. As I am sure by now, from reading my posts, I advocate scrubbers, precipitators and burners on EVERY Industrial Scale smokestack . . . Remove the ‘REAL’ pollution Attached to the CO2 . . . CO2 for 3 billion years has been the ‘Fountain of Life’ on Planet Earth !

  3. that man permalink
    August 29, 2022 6:16 pm

    The narrator admits the role of Russia in Europe’s energy crisis, but fails to mention India’s lack of condemnation for Russia’s aggression against Ukraine —as mentioned by the Carnegie Institute: “Despite its discomfort with Moscow’s war, New Delhi has adopted a studied public neutrality toward Russia. It has abstained from successive votes in the UN Security Council, General Assembly, and Human Rights Council that condemned Russian aggression in Ukraine and thus far has refused to openly call out Russia as the instigator of the crisis.“

    Also, she doesn’t refer to India as the world’s second-largest producer of coal.
    Hypocrisy? Hmm…..

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      August 29, 2022 6:52 pm

      Yes … but … what an attractive woman, she could rant at me 24/7 !!!

      • that man permalink
        August 29, 2022 6:55 pm

        Goodness gracious, how audacious….

    • August 29, 2022 8:34 pm

      She also didn’t mention India buying oil from Russia , refining the product and selling it on to Europe. Hypocrisy on all sides.

  4. Colin permalink
    August 29, 2022 6:55 pm

    I wish there was a bit more hypocrisy. When it comes to long term impoverishment our legislators are virtuous, banning new oil development, banning pipelines, banning fracking. Our energy economy is tanking because of decisions taken ten years ago. Our rulers are less brave about decisions to impoverish right here and now. Hence the panicked tilt to coal. If the Ukraine crisis resolved, and we got our Russian gas back they’d double down on the Green madness in an instant but we’ll pay for it in ten years and by that time the idiots who enacted these policies will have moved on.

  5. August 29, 2022 7:00 pm

    What’s tragic is that Europe seems keen on importing fossil fuels without developing domestic supplies. Europe knows how to mine coal but refuses. Fracking is a proven technology but the EU has effectively outlawed it. When sanctions were imposed on Russian gas, the EU went far and wide to replace it and priced many developing nations out of the market.
    The EU lives in a fantasy green energy narrative which was supported by Mr. Putin’s natural gas pipelines. Mr. Putin has burst that bubble. The EU refuses to admit the error, so goes on a buying spree for fossil energy spreading the pain worldwide. They need to develop their own resources and rather relying on LNG from anywhere, create a pipeline infrastructure so Middle Eastern and African sources can more easily and economically be tapped. The green lobby has effectively blocked these. The EU energy fantasy has turned into a nightmare that is hobbling their domestic economies but crushing the developing world’s economies.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      August 30, 2022 5:52 pm

      Ironic I suppose that the expansionist EU was responsible for the start of the Ukraine Problem by assisting in overthrowing the elected president in 2014 for refusing to sign the first document in the accession process to becoming an EU member, so triggering the civil war.

  6. Max Beran permalink
    August 29, 2022 7:49 pm

    Hypocrites! Never did we need our hypocrites more than today. The more the merrier and the more hypocritical the better.

    • Max Beran permalink
      August 29, 2022 7:51 pm

      Sorry Colin; I see you already posted much the same.

  7. Alan Haile permalink
    August 29, 2022 8:48 pm

    But CO2 is not a pollutant. There is no climate crisis and no need to reduce CO2 emissions. It doesn’t matter who burns however much coal. Trump was right, it is all a hoax, although I prefer the word scam.

  8. C Lynch permalink
    August 29, 2022 9:23 pm

    I wonder if you could do something about the ridiculous claims about the flooding in Pakistan.
    Interesting in particular to note how adroit commentators in the “developing world” have become at claiming every natural disaster as being caused by man made global warming to maximise the guilt factor when pan handling the West.

    • Jules permalink
      August 30, 2022 1:21 pm

      The flooding in Pakistan is due to deforestation in the Indus catchment area. Forest cover has reduced to about 5%. Rainfall has marginally increased. It is mainly a local man made weather disaster.

  9. August 29, 2022 10:06 pm

    She said the UK is “reactivated coal power plants”
    Then later “last month the UK gov asked coal plants to be on standby”
    Isn’t that crap ? … The UK seems to have coal plants running every day

    30 Jun 2021 http://www.gov.uk
    End to coal power brought forward to October 2024
    From 1 October 2024 Great Britain will no longer use coal to generate electricity, a year earlier than planned,

    29 Apr / 2022
    Energy secretary Kwasi Kwarteng has written to Uniper, EDF and Drax to request they consider temporarily extending the operation of their coal plants.
    Uniper owns Ratcliffe power station due to close in September 2022.
    EDF owns West Burton A coal-fired power plant

    6 Jul 2022 http://www.drax.com
    Six-month extension of coal operations at request of UK
    “At the request of the UK Government, Drax has agreed to delay the planned closure of its two coal-fired units and help bolster the UK’s ..”

    • Gerry, England permalink
      August 30, 2022 5:55 pm

      The loonies in government have said that the coal plants are to be for back-up which would not inspire confidence in spending any more than is necessary by the owners. But then the owners might be much more clued up – I know, not much of a challenge – than the government and fully expect their to be a dire need for their power.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      August 30, 2022 7:43 pm

      They should have been running coal flat out to save on gas.

  10. August 29, 2022 10:47 pm

    That video, in a nutshell, is more proof of the developing world’s firm attitudes as to Western global leadership. Learn Mandarin.

  11. August 29, 2022 11:39 pm

    I don; think it’s an impressive video
    It’s polished yes. But seems to be Indian tabloid TV, pandering to Indian racism etc
    ‘Oh India invented everything, the west are all baddies, now give us compensation’

  12. Phil O'Sophical permalink
    August 30, 2022 10:36 am

    Palki is great. She doesn’t always get it right but when she does she slays it.

  13. GeoffB permalink
    August 30, 2022 6:06 pm

    Well we are going to need some coal, Open cast is quickest to get going, but around Newcastle.

    On Tuesday 8th September 2020 Save Druridge finally won against Banks Mining when Robert Jenrick MP reconfirmed the Governments decision and refused permission for a second time of Banks Minings Planning application at Druridge Bay.

    AND

    Coal mining in the Pont Valley to end August 2020
    Campaign to Protect Pont Valley and other local people are delighted that Banks plans to further exploit the Pont Valley were dashed.

    On the 1st July Durham County Council planning committee voted to reject Banks Group’s controversial proposal for ‘West Bradley’ an extension to the current ‘Bradley’ opencast coal site between Dipton and Leadgate which would have caused another 90,000 tonnes of coal to be extracted over a further 1 year period. Had it been approved it would have added further disruption to people living in the area and worsening the local and international environment.

    Come back and revisit in February 2023, No affordable gas or electricity, power cuts, the cap goes up again in January so even higher bills are in February, “It is a tangled web we weave”

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