Vancouver’s New Virtue Signalling Fire Engine–Useless, But At Least It Won’t Wake The Neighbours Up!
By Paul Homewood
h/t Dave Ward
Coming to a fire brigade near you!
Want a glimpse of just how cultist North American governments have become over all things “green,” especially electric vehicles? Vancouver is giddy about being the first city in the country to receive an all-electric fire truck.
How is that cultist?
Well, the new e-truck will cost $300,000 more than a comparable diesel model, pump 40 per cent less water and have such a short range (30 km) because of its enormous weight that it will have to have backup diesel power in case it runs out of juice on the way to a blaze.
But, the city points out, it won’t give off diesel fumes and will be much quieter than existing diesel fire trucks. Oh, yeah, cause that’s what I’m most concerned about when my house is on fire – that the pumper might be a little too loud and stinky for the neighbours.
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
My grandson has a battery fire engine as well, however, its plastic so not very ‘green’ but at least $300k cheaper and probably as useful! More lunacy.
That $300k was the difference, not the cost. Your grandson can pocket another $$$$$$$!
Color?
Either green or with bright red and orange flames.
Best use: give kids rides at parades and other festivities.
Noiseless huh?
A silent siren be like jazz hands to avoid clapping etcetera.
Will the 🌈 livery be sponsored by a local business?
Government has found its responsibilities to be BORING. So it’s going to do all other sorts of things. And none of what the taxpayers are paying to do.
Sooner or later, the taxpayers will say, “I ain’t payin’ for this $#|+ any more!”
Just like our boys in blue in Northampton – saddled with expensive electric motorcycles with limited range.
To be fair the bikes do have video cameras on, so OK for videoing their mates doing the Macarena at carnivals.
Police are following a number of leads but none of them are long enough.
Excellent!
Are these fire engines mass-produced, or is it a special order for Vancouver BC?
They are unlikely to be what you would consider ‘mass produced’ as municipal vehicle production is low level. As these are a niche product for ecoloons they are likely to be at a very low level but with the battery costs, always going to be way more expensive and a lot less useful.
They must hope the batteries don’t catch fire. That would be a PR disaster.
It amazes me that these people have the time and money to squander technological resources in this manner!
Fire! Can you hang on we’re just charging the battery.
This one passed me by I think.
It’s the old only using waste scam.
If marmalade gets hard to find or very expensive, blame climate change……. fighting!
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/23/how-seville-is-turning-leftover-oranges-into-electricity
Starting slowly. 35 tons of oranges out of 5,700 tons of waste i.e. 0.06%
And they are turning them into METHANE ( evil, debbil gas ) – wait until Greta hears about that, or worse, the Extinction Rebellion mob will use it as an excuse to spend the winter in Seville.
Does anyone know where to get Seville Oranges? I like to make Marmalade I haven’t been able to find any recently. Shop bought is not the same.
Ben Vorlich … Wrong time of year. First two weeks of January is the season.
Which makes this Guardian story a little dubious.
(You can make good Scotch marmalade with ordinary oranges. ‘Er indoors just happens to have some on the shopping list this week!!)
I certainly hope these trucks are ordered with the carbon-based fuel engine back-up for when they run out of juice on the way to the fire. That way the fire engine can make it all the way to the fire, AND have power to squirt some water to extinguish the polluting, smokey flames from those pesky fires. The most important thing here is to be green. “We are green! Shout it loud, Shout it proud !” Sorry about your house, Mam. We just got caught up in the moment, as instructed by our green mayor.
Here’s an irony:
If the beast’s energy source catches fire, it’s unlikely to be able to extinguish itself.
https://www.bedsfire.gov.uk/Community-safety/Road-safety/Fire-in-Electric-Vehicles.aspx
Residents should be given a 3-day voucher for a vacation destination of reasonable distance from the battery. A surcharge on every battery should cover the cost.
Building fires by their very nature are pollution events that make diesel engine fumes pale in comparison.
Also, Fire Engines have a siren that is intended to make a lot of noise.
Are these apologists insane?
They probably mean it’s quiet while charging and then driving back to base after the fire is over. It will be the last to leave allowing the crew to do the tidying up and final checks while its recharged.
Seems ideal
“While its recharged”
By the onboard diesel genset, as the battery will be flat after getting there and pumping (40% less) water to put the fire out…
Yes, a decent fire burning for 10 extra minutes because this thing pumps less water is going to release far more pollution and CO2 than the fire engine will save. But nobody gets to see that so it’s OK.
Yes!
Seville oranges in season mid January for about 6 weeks.
We already have one of those in the UK. But I don’t know if they’ve sold any.
https://e1group.co.uk/e1-evo
When oh when will this madness end, probably not before we start ignoring these freak s and let commonsense return?
A e.v. battery fire is a physical fire, an electrical fire, a chemical fire and a metal fire.
An electiral fire does not respond to water or c02 dousing agemts and is enhanced by water.
A metal fire is spread, at least in the beginnig, by the use of water
A chemical fire reacts to the application of water with explosive force sometimes, and is usually unaffected by c.o.2 or any other atmospheric agent.
An E.V. physical fire associated with battery ignition is superheated by the combination of the other factors and thus exceeds the margins for surrounding fire retardant material in the vehicle. That causes the fire retardent to flash over at extremely high temperatures with a vehicle specific combinations of chemicals causing the release of material not normally seen outside of a laboratory. The intensity of the heat and flames from the now burning fire retardent will cause anything in the immediate vicinity to be at high risk.
Manufactueres are correct to say ….just let it burn out….. Much of what might be tried to deal with it may make the fire seriously worse. While that sounds sort of ominous as to their safety, think about what the means. If you should leave one of them to burn out, what happens if you have a few of them or hundreds of them like in the parkade.
A massive, high intensity fire releasing unimaginably toxic chemicals (some of which are absorbed into surrounding materials and then slowly outgassed) burning without restraint for hours or even days, in a residential high rise. Such an event in a typical residential high rise would cause so much damge to the essential systems that are located in the lower levels and potential damage to support beams that the building would eventually be torn down.
I worked with Dennis and Scania fire appliances for most of my fire service career, big Diesel engines that could could pump for a full shift with power take offs to run lighting masts etc, good reliable machinery where and when you needed it most. Love to know pumping sustainability of this new machine.
The supply and costs of the rare earth metals to run a fleet of these fire pumps must be horrendous! I recently saw a news shot of an electric London bus burning it was spectacular and dangerous for anyone in the vicinity. I agree we do need a Great Reset but it should be to get these green clowns out of power.
Great! That truck will produce less exhaust fumes during fires! (Are they kidding or are they stupidity addicts?)
Not much of a drought left chez moi.
July was 13% of normal rain.
August was 90%.
September, already well over 100%.
Lawn 100% recovered.
So this seems to be just as successful as the Green idiots battery dustcart in Brighton that requires double the amount of more expensive vehicles to do the same job. Is there anything green that is actually an improvement?
It must have an enormous battery, which means it is just as likely to cause a fireas put on out.