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Eco-extremists are leading the world towards despair, poverty, and starvation–Jordan Peterson

October 29, 2022

By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Philip Bratby

 

A very thoughtful piece:

 

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This winter, millions of British citizens, including children, will be tipped, or dumped, into energy poverty severe enough to risk permanent damage to their health. Cold, damp houses provide the perfect breeding ground for mould that not only causes respiratory distress, but renders houses essentially unlivable once established.

One Left-leaning newspaper ran the story outlining the danger, but without a word about why this crisis has emerged: because the woke moralisers of the "environmental" movement helped to create it.

The narcissists of compassion – callow, self-aggrandising, incompetent politicians, their celebrity lackeys, Machiavellian journalists – have insisted ever more loudly over the last five decades that no cost was, and is, too great for others to bear in the pursuit of blind service to "the planet."

It is irresistibly tempting at the moment for those on that bandwagon to single out Vladimir Putin for Europe’s energy woes, but his current machinations were utterly enabled by the green ideologues. Anyone with eyes could see a decade ago that the idiot insistence that Europe make itself reliant on Russia for its energy security made the current situation inevitable.

Remember when President Donald Trump – populist menace numero uno – was mocked and derided by the intellectual and political elite in Europe and North America for trumpeting precisely that warning? Well, now the chickens have truly come home to roost, but very little has yet been learned in consequence.

Virtue-signalling utopians committed to globalisation claim we are destroying the planet with cheap energy. But are they truly and deeply committed to the environmental sustainability so loudly and insistently demanded, or are they merely hell-bent, in the prototypically Marxist manner, in taking revenge on capitalism?

It appears to be the latter. Why otherwise would the mavens of the environmental movement oppose nuclear power, despite its optimal "carbon footprint"?

Utility bills have soared in the UK, the home of the Industrial Revolution that lifted the world out of poverty. Now up to half of small businesses in Britain face the risk of bankruptcy and closure. The Government has had to announce a ruinously expensive Energy Price Guarantee to mitigate the worst effects of this disaster.

The rush to renewables

The mentality among the eco-extremists is as follows: if we have to doom the poor to destroy the system that made the rich, so be it. You just can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

Here is one fact to remember, while we so madly and ineffectively rush to renewables.

Research has recently indicated that two decades of intense support for such undertakings has hiked the proportion of energy provided by such means from 13-14 per cent to an utterly underwhelming 15.7 per cent. Unfortunately the liberal Left see this as a mere fabrication of the conspiratorial Right-wing conservative imagination.

But the tyrannical and emergency-justified panicked crunch is not just happening in the UK. In Spain, officials now dictate that commercial properties must not be heated above 17°C or cooled below 27°C upon pain of law. In Switzerland, similar punishments are being considered as part of a proposed four-step plan for dealing with a gas shortage, which “cannot be ruled out this winter given the geopolitical situation.”

The citizens of Germany, likewise, are now in “phase two” of a “three-stage emergency plan” following a reduction in gas flows from Russia, its main supplier. The plan involves “bringing coal-fired plants onto the market,” according to German Minister Robert Habeck, despite them being “simply poison for the climate,” and the potential of gas rationing for industrial companies so that supplies to homes and schools, etc., are not disrupted.

The extended plan involves curtailing the Christmas lighting that constitutes part of the celebration in the midst of the winter darkness in many locations where they generally shine. Nothing either beautiful or pleasing is acceptable in the least to the Grinches (and the Grinch was in fact green) when confronted by the crisis they created.

Remember: when the aristocracy catches cold, the peasants die of pneumonia. If such extreme measures have become necessary in the richest countries, what in God’s name is going to happen in the poorer ones? When the shortages strike, the poor will inevitably and necessarily turn to less green resources: many, even in Germany, are already stockpiling firewood and coal for the winter, leading to acute shortages. How is incentivising people to cut down and burn trees and use coal in their fireplaces going to help reduce the dreaded "atmospheric carbon load"?

The actual poor versus the hypothetical poor

Perhaps we’ll be able to comfort ourselves, here in the West, with the thought that the food we take for granted will still be available at our tables. But, wait: the crops that nourish our populations cannot be grown without fertiliser (loathed by green folk) and, more specifically, without ammonia. And what, pray tell, is ammonia derived from? Could it be…natural gas? And how many people are dependent for their daily bread on the industrial generation and consequent wide availability of ammonia? Only three or four billion…

The World Bank itself has recently indicated that 222 million people are already experiencing the threat of starvation (described oh-so-nicely as "food insecurity"). The Communists managed to kill 100 million in the last century with their utopian delusions; we’ve barely begun to implement the "save the planet" nightmare, and we’ve already placed twice that number at risk.

We are told an emergency confronts us: the climate "crisis." The solution? The masses will have to "tighten their belts" to forestall an even worse future catastrophe. The elite academics, think-tanks and corporate consultants, and the politicians who subsidise their intellectual pretensions, will not be particularly affected by such tightening – "privileged" as they are. But the actual poor? To such an elite, they must be sacrificed now to save tomorrow’s hypothetical poor.

222 million people is, no doubt, an underestimate: as the "food insecurity" gets more severe, more countries will place restrictions on food exports. That will harm the international supply lines we all depend on. Then, when the consequences of that manifest themselves, increasingly desperate politicians will begin to nationalise and centralise food distribution (as the French and Germans have already done on the energy front) and cut their farmers off at the knees, who will in turn stop growing food – not out of spite, but because of dire economic impossibility. Then we will have engendered the kind of feedback loop that can really spiral out of control. It will be poor people who die (first, at least), but as we have all been taught by the malevolent eco-moralisers: the planet has too many people on it anyway.

Think about this, while you shiver all too soon in your cold, damp and increasingly expensive and now sub-standard lodgings. You and your family may well have been deemed an expendable excess.

Food for thought

This is simply not acceptable. If you dare to claim the moral high ground while serving the cause of starvation then – by my reckoning – you’ve placed yourself firmly in the enemy camp, and you richly deserve whatever is coming your way.

In the psychological and educational arenas, too, we demoralise young people, feeding them a constant diet of concretised apocalypse, focusing particularly on tempering or even obliviating the laudable ambition of boys, hectoring them into believing that their virtue is nothing but the force that oppresses the innocent and despoils the virginal planet. And, if that doesn’t work – and it does – then there’s always the castration awaiting the gender-dysphoric. And you oppose such initiatives at substantial personal risk.

But we can reassure ourselves with the fact that a beneficent government is going to set up warm spots in public libraries and museums this winter so that freezing, starving old people can huddle together to keep warm while their grandchildren cough up their lungs in their frigid, damp, and mouldy flats.

In such circumstances – in the race of such mandatory privations and manipulations – it’s obvious that the last thing our tyrannical virtue-signalling governments should be doing is directing their demented attention toward regulating what people serve at their tables. But because meat has also been deemed yet something else that is "destroying the planet," the woke narcissists of compassion are already insisting that people eat less of it. Plants and bugs for you and your children, peasants. And the sooner you get accustomed to it (or else) the better.

Let’s turn our attention to the claim that animal husbandry and the meat it produces cheaply enough for everyone to afford is unsustainable, for a moment, because we haven’t yet dispensed with enough moralising and authoritarian stupidity.

Remember what happened the last time that governmental agencies applied their tender mercy to determining what the people they serve should consume? We were offered the much-vaunted food pyramid, telling us to eat 6-11 servings of grains and carbohydrates a day, with protein and fat at the pinnacle – something to be indulged in with comparative rarity, if indeed necessary at all.

That all turned out to be wrong, and not just a little wrong, but so wrong that it might as well have been not just wrong but a veritable anti-truth: something as wrong as it could possibly get.

The food pyramid was brought into being not least by the US Department of Agriculture (that is, by marketers, not scientists or nutritionists), with no shortage whatsoever of lobby efforts by those whose products ended up being promoted. The dietary recommendation to prioritise carbohydrates produced a veritable epidemic of obesity and diabetes, resulting in what has been deemed by reliable researchers as one of the worst public health disasters of all time, dooming almost the entire Western population to a lifetime of catastrophic chronic health problems.

Forty-two percent of Americans are obese. Another almost equally large percentage are overweight. At least a third are in the early or later stages of diabetes, which is an exceptionally serious disease. $1.7 trillion dollars is spent on chronic illness in the US. And the rise in such illness and cost is directly associated with the beginning of the godforsaken top-down dietary guidelines that set us all on a carbohydrate-heavy dietary pathway.

There have been, in addition, dozens of studies debunking the claim that red meat causes disease. The PURE study published in the journal Lancet in 2017 analysing 140,000 individuals from 18 countries revealed that “higher carbohydrate intake (not meat and fat, note) was associated with an increased risk of total mortality” and that “higher saturated fat intake was associated with lower risk of stroke.”

Lower.

That is exactly the opposite of what we have been told by the beneficial centralising agents who tasked themselves with determining what we, as sovereign and responsible individuals, should put in our mouths.

So the "health benefits” of a pure vegetarian and vegan diet are dubious at best. But what of the argument that animal husbandry is killing the planet? Well, the American Environmental Protection Agency estimates that all farming produces only 11 per cent of greenhouse gases in the US (transportation produces 27 per cent). Livestock accounts for 3 per cent. And plant-based agriculture? Five per cent. According to the National Academy of Sciences, if we eradicated all animal-based agriculture, we’d reduce greenhouse gases by a mere 2.6 per cent. And it’s no simple matter, by the way – and perhaps impossible – to manage a diet that is sustainable in the medium-to-long-term by merely dining on plants. 
Chew on that.
Ex Hodos: the pathway forward
What might we do, instead, if we chose to be genuinely wise, instead of inflicting want and privation upon the world’s poor, while failing utterly and disastrously to save the planet?

We could begin by assuming, here in the West, that all those frightened into paralysis and enticed into tyranny by their apprehension of the pending apocalypse have bitten off more than they can properly chew; have taken on a dragon much more fire-breathing and dire than they are heroic; have failed entirely to contend with the moral hazard that comes in assuming that the faddish emergency of their overheated imaginations emergency entitles them to the use of power and compulsion.

If your apprehension of the looming catastrophe, whatever its form, has made you into a terrified authoritarian, willing to frighten and compel to get your way, you are simply not the right leader for the times – as the unconscious manifestations of your own nervous system, telling you that you are just too small for the job at hand, are clearly indicating, even to you.

We could begin by dropping our appalling attitude of moral superiority toward the developing world. We could admit instead that the rest of the planet’s inhabitants have the right and the responsibility to move toward the abundant material life that we have enjoyed, despite ourselves, for the last century and which has been so entirely dependent on industrial activity and fossil fuel usage. 

We could work diligently and with purpose to drive energy and food prices down to the lowest level possible, so that we can ease the burden on the poor, and open up their horizons of possibility, so that they become concerned (as they inevitably and properly will) with long-term sustainability instead of acting desperately and destructively in pursuit of their next meal.

We could concentrate on an intelligent plan of stewardship instead of anti-human "environmentalism" along the lines of the plans outlined by multi-faceted and diligent experts such as Dr. Bjorn Lomborg, who pointed out years ago that we have a multitude of crises facing us and not just one (the hypothetically apocalyptic danger of "carbon"), and that we could spend the money we are wasting killing poor people in a much more intelligent and judicious manner, devoting some resources, for example, to ensuring a stable food supply to poor children in the developing world, treating malaria – something we can do and cheaply – and delivering fresh water where it is truly needed.

We could as well work out the details of a truly sustainable agriculture with the most expert farmers to improve the quality of our soil and air and provide everyone with enough high-quality food (which will most definitely involve animal-based agriculture). We could bring a halt to the presumption that the state should extend itself by dint of its hypothetical moral superiority to the governance of how we heat our own houses and feed and provision our own families.

We could, finally, delegate authority to the most local possible of levels, following the principle of subsidiarity, and produce a hierarchy of responsibility that extends necessary purpose to everyone individually, at the family and community and state level, and that serves as a necessary bulwark against the blind and Luceriferian prideful-intellect-based top-down tyrannies of emergency and compulsion that will otherwise necessarily reign.

We could work out our concerns with sustainability through consensus and in the spirit of voluntary association and free play instead of relying on top-down edicts, justified in principle by our misplaced existential terror and carrying with them the moral hazard of the accrual of unjustified and dangerous centralised authority. We could distribute to everyone their requisite responsibility as sovereign actors and can bring them on board with the power of a common vision: one of life more abundant; enough high-quality food for everyone; enough energy so that slavery becomes a thing of the past; enough purpose so that nihilism and decadence no longer beckon; enough reciprocity so that we live in true peace; the generous provision of education and opportunity to everyone in the world; the conviction (to say it again) that policy based on compulsion is misguided and counterproductive.

We could thereby have our cake and eat it too, and so could everyone else, and we could work toward that in a mutual spirit of productive generosity and fair play in competition and cooperation. Or we can let the world go to hell in a handbasket, blame that disintegration on the very enemies we identified as causal in the first place (those damned capitalists!), and fail to clean up our own souls as we persecute the imaginary wrong-doers responsible for the destruction of our planet.

Identifying the real danger
As the psychologist Carl Jung said in the aftermath of the Nazi atrocities and the
use of nuclear weapons: "it is becoming more and more obvious that it is not starvation, not microbes, not cancer, but man himself who is mankind’s greatest danger, for the simple reason that there is no adequate protection against psychic epidemics, which are infinitely more devastating than the worst of natural catastrophes."

That great man knew that technological man had a stark choice in front of him: to become as ethical as he had become powerful, and that a real hell awaited if we refused the challenge.

The rate of change is accelerating. Our ability to do almost everything is doubling, faster and faster. As our ability to communicate and to compute accelerates, the consequences of our inner disunity and insufficiency become ever more serious. As we become individually more powerful, in other words, we must take on more responsibility. Or else.

If we fail to rectify our personal pathologies, of pride, envy, and the willingness to lie, we will find ourselves mired in conflict with the world, both natural and social – and in precise proportion to our refusal to check the devil within.

So we have a stark choice in front of us: we can re-orient ourselves to the cause of truth, or we can act out the conflict, imposing our self-serving instrumental delusions on the world, bringing about in that manner an external apocalypse that will result in precisely the same judgment.

It’s time for all of us, but especially the self-righteous moralisers, to get our individual acts together, to take on some real moral responsibility, instead of falsely broadcasting unearned virtue far and wide and so cheaply and carelessly.

It’s time to drop the prideful intellectualism so overweening that we are willing to use compulsion and force to get our way – always for the sake of the general good. It’s time to drop the envy that makes us criticise and demonise anyone who has more than us, driven by the presumptions that such abundance must be the consequence of the application of arbitrary power and the result of theft – while what we have obtained, even though it is more than many possess, was merely garnered by the force of goodwill and morality.

It’s time to shed the inexcusably pathological presumption among the elite that only corrupt power rules (everyone except them) and to express some gratitude for the traditions of the past and the near-miraculous infrastructure we have been granted.

It’s time to take on the abandoned civic responsibility that has been justified through an unearned cynicism and return necessary authority to the local levels that moderate top-down tyranny.

It’s time, as it always has been and always will be, to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Finally, it’s time to say no in some absolute and fundamental sense (and without hesitation) to all those who dare to propose that dooming perhaps a billion people to starvation and penury is justified by the potential consequences of failing to do so. So no one gets to say with impunity: "the planet has too many people on it."

Too many people have already been sacrificed in the last hundred years on the altar of future utopias. Enough, truly, is enough.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/28/eco-extremists-leading-world-towards-despair-poverty-starvation/?WT.mc_id=e_DM55252&WT.tsrc=email&etype=Loy_Dig_Acq_Control_Digital_Annual&utmsource=email&utm_medium=Loy_Dig_Acq_Control_Digital_Annual20221029&utm_campaign=DM55252

49 Comments
  1. GeoffB permalink
    October 29, 2022 10:20 am

    I read it this morning, it is really well written, but that it actually got published is even more amazing, I expect now some severe attacks on Peterson’s credibility (he had some addiction to medicine for depression a while ago) but he has summed up the eco loons stupidity. The problem is that they are so stupid/indoctrinated that they do not have the intellect to understand what he is writing.
    On another rant, when are the “just stop oil” vicars, doctors and old ladies going to be imprisoned, 28 days of disruption and why are none of the victims (the businesses targeted and the owners of the Dartford crossing) taking out civil actions for damages?

    • Les Saunders permalink
      October 29, 2022 11:22 am

      Have to agree with every word you say. Peterson nailed it.

  2. Chaswarnertoo permalink
    October 29, 2022 10:26 am

    Greentards are miserable people who hate life and try to make others suffer their misery.

    • 186no permalink
      October 29, 2022 10:37 am

      They should have the courage of their conflictions (sic) and enrol into their local Soylent Green programme.

      • Mosey Joe permalink
        November 1, 2022 10:17 pm

        Oddly Soylent Green is happening now according to the film itself.

  3. 186no permalink
    October 29, 2022 10:35 am

    I agree with every syllable; just wish we had a UK Second Amendment.

  4. Chris Phillips permalink
    October 29, 2022 10:43 am

    I’m afraid there are already letters to the Daily Telegraph calling Peterson an idiot who should be certified and locked up. Climate catastrophe hysteria has really taken hold and it will be an almighty task rolling it back. A lot of this is due to the indoctrination of our children by left wing climate activist ‘teachers’ in our schools who basically are telling children they will only live for a few years more. This is child abuse in my opinion but very few people seem to be taking it seriously.

    • Izzy permalink
      October 29, 2022 11:56 am

      And it’s going to get worse in schools, further education and elsewhere. The Climate Education Bill is due for its second reading in the Commons. It is supported by every political party represented in parliament. I wrote to my MP pointing out the dangers of the wording of the Bill which will allow all sorts of indoctrination of individuals beginning at primary school level. My MP thought it was going to be a good thing.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      October 29, 2022 12:10 pm

      It’s (the hysteria) also talking a hold because of some mega-rich people with more money than sense are funding the likes of XR-ETC.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      October 29, 2022 12:21 pm

      “This is child abuse in my opinion” it very definitely is my opinion as well.
      A little anecdote from 9 years ago when my youngest daughter was about to take GCSEs. I helped her with some “Geography” homework about climate change. A question discussed the most abundant greenhouse gases so on my advice she listed them as Water Vapour, CO2 and CH4. Next day her “marked” work had water vapour deleted (underlined in green ink!) with notation that it was NOT a gas and could not affect the climate. Somewhat annoyed I contacted said teacher by ‘phone who had the audacity to say “are you one of those deniers”.
      Apoplectic with rage ( I graduated with a physics degree in 1976) I drove to the school demanding to see the head who agreed to see me.
      The head was very apologetic ( a former physics teacher herself) and tried to explain that the Geography teacher was “teaching to the syllabus” rather than the actual facts! I confirmed the teacher had no science qualifications (BA in political geography) beyond “O” levels. It was agreed the teacher should attend a “subject knowledge enhancement course” so as not to make such a mistake in future but nothing could be done to amend the syllabus nor adjust marking plans for the upcoming exams.
      So not only are they being abused by absurd terrifying predictions they are quite deliberately being told falsehoods.

      • October 29, 2022 12:48 pm

        A friend of mine recently retired after 26 years teaching science at a grammar school. Being retired myself I asked him what he was most looking forward to in his retirement. “Not having to bite my tongue when teaching them about climate change”. Unfortunately, teachers have zero input into the syllabus’ it’s created by woke bureaucrats in ‘the blob’

      • Stuart Hamish permalink
        October 29, 2022 7:54 pm

        ” Unfortunately , teachers have zero input into the syllabus ” ….
        That is not true Teachers federations and unions wield a lot of political clout and bear a great deal of responsibility for the green millenarian and neo – Marxist radicals emerging from schools and universities – like little brainwashed cadres – to terrorize and destabilize societies ……Look at how enamored the United Kingdoms teachers federations were with the jihadist terrorist sympathizer Jeremy Corbyn…..

        .In Australia under the Gillard Labor government an unrepentant Communist Party of Great Britain ,member and history department Dean was placed in charge of the national education syllabus .

        As for Dr Jordan Petersons not so esteemed field of psychology it is well and good that he acknowledges the “psychological arena’ feeds a constant diet of concretized apocalypse but this is not enough. Name the villains . He seems rather silent on the odious Susan Michie, the SAGE cabal and the British Psychological Society Clinical Divisions imprimatur for the anti democratic Citizens Assembly manifesto demand of the Extinction Rebellion cult …What may explain the allure of cults such as Extinction Rebellion and the “psychic epidemic ” of radical environmentalist ideology among your “self righteous moraliser ” peers in psychology Jordan ? Jordan is obviously a lucid and humbly intelligent exception but its a question worth asking. Any ideas ‘ Catweazle “? .. What could have inspired the DSMIV chair Dr Allen Frances to advocate political abuse of psychiatry to remove Donald Trump from presidential office ? Well by his own deranged admission he believed Trumps climate policies imperiled humanity . Frances is captivated by the psychic epidemic of climate apocalypticism and too blinkered to realize it . So too another academic psychologist who suggested ‘higher analytical abilities ” may be a pathological trait of climate skepticism Unfortunately they are not aberrations . Consider the sinister “personal pathologies ” of Bandy X Lee and the disgraceful contributions to her own political psychiatry edition attacking Donald Trump
        .Turn the lens on the dark recesses of your profession and its record of bizarre fads iatrogenic abuse and creed captivation Jordan . I have had a lot to say about it..

        Carl Jungs thoughts quoted by Jordan intrigued me : ” It is becoming more and more obvious that its not starvation , not microbes ….but man himself who is mankinds greatest danger , for the simple reason that there is no adequate protection against psychic epidemics which are infinitely more devastating than the worst of all natural catastrophes ” …. What Jung meant by ‘psychic epidemics ‘ is rather vague and his statement is furthermore a false alternative fallacy Was he implying explosions of religious fanaticism are ‘psychic epidemics ” or just the secular political religions of the two world wars and the Cold War ? It is estimated the European colonization of the Americas alone resulted in the deaths of 90 – 95% of Amerindian populations from introduced Old World pathogens … The 1918 – 20 Influenza pandemic that mutated into lethality [ hence the specious false alternative reasoning ] in wartime conditions and the Justinian Plague combined probably killed more human beings than WWI and WWII . The Great Leap Forward famine was ideologically driven and led to the deaths of 15 – 20 million from ‘starvation ” Jungs argument is contestable . I do agree though that eco – extremist policies may lead to more suffering and death than any natural disasters this century. Radical greens have already been responsible for millions of needless deaths [ Read Ian Plimers ‘ Green Murder ” ]

    • Vernon E permalink
      October 29, 2022 2:17 pm

      The teachers, the rest of the Blob and the “activists” are merely the useful idiots being used by Schwab and the WEF to bring on the Great Reset. Look what’s happening in Oxford with traffic control. No ICE vehicles allowed (despite there being many hospitals there) including taxis. Our new King is up to his neck in this ideology which seeks to make us all poor. Instead of being head of a Commonwealth he wants to be head of a Commonpoverty.

      • October 29, 2022 8:04 pm

        Vernon, loved this statement from you –
        “Instead of being head of a Commonwealth he wants to be head of a Commonpoverty”

        you have to laugh, or you would cry, at the insanity that has taken root in the West.

  5. David permalink
    October 29, 2022 10:44 am

    How did the greenies in control of the DT let this through when they obviously edit out any reasonable discussion on climate change?

  6. Martin Brumby permalink
    October 29, 2022 10:52 am

    A superb piece by Peterson, which will remain completely unread by all our Beloved Leaders.

  7. devonblueboy permalink
    October 29, 2022 10:54 am

    “A thoughtful piece”, as always. Which is why he is so despised by the wokerati.

    • Stuart Hamish permalink
      October 29, 2022 7:58 pm

      We agree on that ..

  8. cookers52 permalink
    October 29, 2022 11:24 am

    I am of the opinion that it is pointless trying a logical argument, when it is evident no logic can be detected.
    Humans search the universe for signs of intelligent life, and so far my understanding is no intelligence has been discovered anywhere.

    • October 29, 2022 12:46 pm

      The well known ‘put down’ for hecklers applies to the greentards: “I can’t fight a battle of wits with an unarmed man”

  9. Gerry, England permalink
    October 29, 2022 11:48 am

    The easy bit is pointing out the problems. The hard bit that Peterson has avoided is how do we remove the people that have done this to us. The energy crisis has been created by all the governments since Thatcher and there is no hope that Sushi will do anything useful having banned fracking and insisted he is signed up to Nut Job Zero. If there was an election next week we have no means of removing Nut Job Zero in our faux democracy.

  10. Derek T permalink
    October 29, 2022 12:26 pm

    Gerry is quite right, there is no easy solution. We have now reached a crunch point where energy costs have become unacceptable. The government has been forced to spend vast sums which is unsustainable beyond the next six months. If energy prices do not come down, or even worse go up further, then some new approach must be put forward, such as fast tracking fracking. Time for a new leader to come forward.

    • Broadlands permalink
      October 29, 2022 1:47 pm

      The energy crisis has already put the climate crisis on hold. If it was really an existential crisis and global emergency the green leaders would let fossil fuels for transportation go the way they want coal and natural gas to go. But, even the dimmest “green” bulbs out there are doing their best to increase the availability and lower the cost of gasoline, diesel and biofuels, a policy which is completely contradictory to achieving zero and net-zero emissions. John Kerry is getting ready to jump the ship. Transportation is critical to the energy transition and conventional vehicles do the work.

    • chriskshaw permalink
      October 29, 2022 6:53 pm

      Derek, regret to inform that I learned that a poll taken recently showed almost 2 in favor of the ban to every 1 in favor of fracking. The sickness runs very deep. A massive intervention is required and is not even remotely on the cards.

      • catweazle666 permalink
        October 29, 2022 7:15 pm

        I wouldn’t worry too much about polls if I were you, Chris!
        If they were accurate, Trump would never have been elected and ‘Leave’ would not have won the EU vote.

  11. Micky R permalink
    October 29, 2022 12:32 pm

    There is hope, from Therase Coffey (UK environment minister)

    The Environment Secretary defended Rishi Sunak pulling out of the Cop27 climate summit by arguing he will show “global leadership” rather than attending “just a gathering of people in Egypt”.

    • Mike Jackson permalink
      October 29, 2022 1:42 pm

      That’s fine, Micky, but are we allowed to define global leadership in this context?

      • Micky R permalink
        October 29, 2022 2:06 pm

        Given the current political shambles in the UK, I’m surprised that any other country would want to willingly follow our Glorious Leadership. And yet we are at number 2 in the global hit parade of “soft power” .

  12. Joe Public permalink
    October 29, 2022 1:00 pm

    A copy of that article should mandatory for the notice board of every secondary and tertiary education establishment in the country.

  13. eastdevonoldie permalink
    October 29, 2022 1:31 pm

    The authors asks…”But are they truly and deeply committed to the environmental sustainability so loudly and insistently demanded, or are they merely hell-bent, in the prototypically Marxist manner, in taking revenge on capitalism?”
    The United Nations has been one of the organizations leading the manmade climate change push. The paragraph below, from the February 10, 2015 Investor’s Business Daily article “U.N. Official Reveals Real Reason Behind Warming Scare” seems to state the goal clearly.
    Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of the U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism. “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said.

    Clearly, it has never been about ‘saving the planet’, the eco-warrior are the useful idiots like the apologists for communism and/or the ‘ban the bomb’ brigade in the 1950/60s,

    • catweazle666 permalink
      October 29, 2022 3:44 pm

      “Clearly, it has never been about ‘saving the planet’”

      Correct, here you go, straight from the horse’s mouth:.

      At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.

      “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said. Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.”

      http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism/

      • John Cullen permalink
        October 29, 2022 5:39 pm

        Catweazle666, I often think of your quote from Figueres in conjunction with that from Edenhofer (as quoted below by Mike Jackson). I infer from these two statements taken together that there is to be LEVELLING UP and LEVELLING DOWN. The so-called richer countries of the West will be Levelled Down while all other countries, often adopting capitalism’s methods, will be able to Level themselves Up. So capitalism itself will NOT be set aside, but just moved elsewhere!

        What I have not understood is why the leaders of the West appear to have so meekly and unquestioningly adopted this model for their various countries, unless they are trying to level us down to an authoritarian neo-feudalism in which they, the elite, swan around in private jets and electric vehicles making sure that we ordinary people do not commit any sins of emission. It is, indeed, a puzzle to me.

        Regards,
        John.

    • Chris Phillips permalink
      November 4, 2022 11:03 am

      I think Greta Thunberg’s recent comments on the evils of Capitalism amply demonstrate the left’s real agenda – using climate change and supposed “climate catastrophe” to scare people into accepting a new Marxist world order. Maybe some politicians who have previously fawned over Greta will re-think their positions, and she will have done us all a favour.

  14. Mike Jackson permalink
    October 29, 2022 1:47 pm

    Perhaps we could add Edenhofer’s statement prior to the Cancun COP:

    “We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy…Basically it’s a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization…One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore.”

    What more evidence do you need?

    • Dave Andrews permalink
      October 29, 2022 3:47 pm

      Some more

      “We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy”
      Timothy Wirth, President of UN Foundation.

      “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that industrial civilisations collapse?Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?
      Maurice Strong, Founder of UN Environment Programme

      “Unless we announce disasters no one will listen”
      Sir John Houghton, First Chair of the IPCC

    • catweazle666 permalink
      October 29, 2022 5:48 pm

      And another:

      We are not just scientists, but human beings as well. Like most people we’d like to see the world a better place, which in this context translates into our working to reduce the risk of potentially disastrous climatic change. To do that we need to get some broad-based support, to capture the public’s imagination. That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have.
      Stephen Schneider

      • Mike Jackson permalink
        October 30, 2022 7:10 am

        Yes. That one as well! The evidence of their bad faith wrapped up in their (allegedly) good intentions is widespread. The Lord preserve us from those who act in *our* best interests without bothering to consult us on what those might be.
        And there’s a quote for that too but I’m not going hunting for it at this time on a Sunday morning!

  15. It doesn't add up... permalink
    October 29, 2022 2:44 pm

    And another one bites the dust.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11367971/Massive-fire-rips-Slough-bus-station-police-warn-public-away.html

    Insurance must be starting to get a it expensive on these things now.

  16. catweazle666 permalink
    October 29, 2022 3:47 pm

    “Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat” as the Romans used to say.

    Seems it was ever thus!

  17. Diogenese permalink
    October 29, 2022 4:55 pm

    It’s time for the global warmists to put their money where their mouth is , turn off heating and cooling off at the BBC , close their local ” services ” to save energy .

  18. Izzy permalink
    October 29, 2022 5:45 pm

    O tempora! O mores!

  19. avro607 permalink
    October 29, 2022 6:12 pm

    When Figueres announced in Paris the killing off of capitalism,I noted that not one politician or business leader complained. Trump noticed and walked away from it.I also noted that May rang him to persuade him not to.
    YOUR MP IS NOT YOUR FRIEND.

    • catweazle666 permalink
      October 29, 2022 6:14 pm

      Treason May…
      No surprise there!

  20. chriskshaw permalink
    October 29, 2022 6:46 pm

    Agree with everything JBP says, and he does so very eloquently.
    OT,
    Here is a superb description of global weather processes complete with capability to explain paleo and current trends

  21. Ulric Lyons permalink
    October 29, 2022 8:48 pm

    Rapid third World development is a good insurance policy, come the next natural climatic boundary event, they may be able to help us more than we can help them.

    • dave permalink
      October 30, 2022 8:53 am

      “…help us…”

      Or the most far-seeing and most able (2% of the population?) will take their financial and human capital and just slip away, in due course but in a timely fashion, to what will no longer be the Third World but the First. That sort of thing used to be called “A Brain Drain.” The leavers will cordially wish Hell to what and whom they leave behind.

  22. Devoncamel permalink
    October 29, 2022 10:38 pm

    I read this too and couldn’t believe it got through editorial control. He will of course be cancelled quicker than a train service.

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