What About The 1950s, Richard?
November 14, 2022
By Paul Homewood
Richard Betts thinks a few days of sunny weather is “extreme”.
He should have lived through the 1950s:
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
I can still remember sitting on some concrete steps in Saltburn by the Sea with the family while the water rushed past us in a waterfall torrent. Above and below were flooded during the downpour.
We were staying at a bed and breakfast place and could not return until late afternoon.
Brilliant! I remember it well! Please show ‘em a bit of ‘62-63! Global warming- bring it on please!
John Croxton
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I rode my 150cc two-stroke motorbike from Worthing to home 250 miles oop north on Boxing Day 1962. Took me 13 hours. I only fell off once, in a huge snowdrift on the A5.
7.3 inches of rain in one day at Wensum, Norfolk 6 August 1912.
9.0 inches of rain in one day on Exmoor, 15th August 1952.
Odd that both those huge amounts were in August. Information taken from a school geography book ! If only more people had paid attention in school.
Hi Paul
You may have already seen this, but in case not…
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/11/14/climate-models-can-never-work-says-computer-modeller/
Kind regards Mike
Wm. Briggs has been saying this for years. “Models always give the answer that one is searching for”.
https://www.wmbriggs.com
I’ve just had a look at that ‘scientific study’ on extremes by Betts. Intentionally, I believe, it is so wishy-washy airy-fairy that it is difficult to criticise precisely. It’s just a mishmash blur of pseudoscience, with some pretty pictures thrown in which pretend to say ‘something important’. But they say nothing. Betts has transformed from scientist to charlatan in less than a decade. One thing I will point out is that the study says, re. July 2022 hot weather in the UK, the ‘event would have been 4C cooler in pre-industrial era’. Yes, this is the observed increase in hot extremes and it is TWICE what the models project, so the climate models are NOT simulating the observed increases which thus CANNOT be attributed to man-made climate change. Betts ‘forgets’ to mention this of course.
The claim it would have been cooler is complete pseudoscience. There is no way of knowing. It is misuse of Bayesian statistics which itself is a very dubious concept that was originally highly limited in its uses. The claim that they can model what would have happened in a relatively small area with identical weather patterns 150 years is so obviously false I cannot understand how sensible people entertain it. Climate models cannot hindcast even generally to acceptable accuracy, let alone a singer weather event in one locality. They are simply modelling their assumptions not reality.
Well the recent summer heat records always seem to be upwind of the massive London conurbation, so they probably would have been more than 4C cooler!
One night during the heatwave the temperature on the south coast where I am went from 21 to 27C at bout 1am, entirely down to the wind switching direction and the London heat dome washing down over us. That would never have happened preindustrial either.
MrGN, impressive numbers, thanks, mine are from Isle of Sheppey, less dramatic but illustrative also I think. IOS weathercam site put it in perspective for me. 19th; 1412 38.0C, 1516 30.1C; F4 change from SE to E. A similar thing happened in the opposite direction on 18th; 28.0C to 34.6C with wind change from N to S/SE from 1400 to 1530. I like the view over the Thames Estuary (and SS Richard Montgomery!) whatever the weather. https://www.iossc.org.uk/weather/?sn=tri-view
I visited Lynmouth with my parents –we were on holiday in Devon– shortly after the flood in 1952. Waters had receded and we were amazed to see bus-sized boulders deposited on the riverbed, washed down the gorge as though they were pebbles.
What’s the Betting – oops – that somewhere there is a link between Betts and either the WEF or Bill Gates.
Take your tinfoil hat off.
“The mountains are so wet at this time of year it’s hard to see how it could have caught hold.”
Yet we are told climate change heat and drought is causing increasing wildfires.
A simplistic lie, the cause of wildfires is primarily more idiots setting light to stuff.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/massive-snowdonia-mountain-fire-looks-28492022
Poor or no management of the moors is the main reason. There is a huge difference between the fire risk on moors managed for shooting (low risk) and moors and woods owned by local authorities and wildlife organisations. (high risk)
The root problem is ignition, in recent times arson and the fashion for instant BBQs have caused the vast majority of UK fires.
I was born and raised in Rhyl through the forties and fifties and I remember clearly the glorious summers we had all around the UK in those fantastic resorts. It all started to change in the mid 1950s. Clearly there was a long term weather movement between the mid 19 th century and the mid 20th. I don’t remember anyone saying the world was about to end.
Even on the wiki page of UK extreme weather there are indications of olde summers lasting half the year and decades of repeated hot summers and drought, sadly before instrument records.
We simply have no idea what the natural range of our climate is, and currently it’s clearly pretty benign, and we are fortunate to live in these times in that respect.
Boxing day 1963 started snowing, roads not cleared for 3 months, I’m sure I didn’t dream that winter.
Bit cryptic. What is this about? Presumably Richard Betts (who I have briefly worked with 30 years ago) has said or written something about extremes in the 50s or sometime else, but what? I see no reference to it.
Whoops! I see it refers to an earlier post.