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BBC Publicise Potty Gaia’s New Book

November 23, 2022
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By Paul Homewood

 

What on earth is the BBC doing giving space to this load of drivel?

 

 

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https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221117-how-borders-might-change-to-cope-with-climate-migration

It is written by somebody called Gaia Vince, who apparently has a book to sell!

 

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According to her website:

My latest book, NOMAD CENTURY, is an urgent investigation of the most underreported, seismic consequence of climate change: how it will force us to change where – and how – we live. It is a book of solutions and also a rousing call to arms, describing how we can plan for and manage the now unavoidable climate migration while we restore the planet to a fully habitable state.

 

I would not recommend reading the BBC piece, never mind buying the book, if you want to remain sane. Needless to say it is full of statements like:

“Without action, hundreds of millions people will have to leave their homes by 2050, according some estimates. One study from 2020 predicts that by 2070, depending on scenarios of population growth and warming, "one to three billion people are projected to be left outside the climate conditions that have served humanity well over the past 6,000 years".

Sh is of course entitled to her views, no matter how crazy. But if the BBC are prepared to give her the opportunity to air them, why don’t they do the same for everybody else with different views?

68 Comments leave one →
  1. Ian PRSY permalink
    November 23, 2022 10:40 am

    Any relation to Dale Vince (Ecotricity)?

  2. W Flood permalink
    November 23, 2022 10:40 am

    Well actually, a bit further ahead, a new ice age WILL start, so maybe we could make some long term plans for that. That WILL need thinking about.

    • November 23, 2022 2:14 pm

      That’s worth betting on. Alvarez & Alvarez pulled the curtain back on bolide impacts in… 1982? Even the Libertarian party is an ancient relic compared to human understanding of what actually killed T Rex. There are more bolides out there than anonymous scientist-impersonators peddling cooked “data.”

      • Stuart Hamish permalink
        November 24, 2022 9:46 am

        Bolides are atmospheric entry cosmic objects – not ” out
        there ” in space. The Comet Research Group and the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis researchers have superseded the Alvarez team …..There is now evidence of numerous Holocene cosmic impacts and climatic downturns 3650 years ago a Tunguska class bolide exploded over the Jordan Valley – a destructive event that probably gave rise to the legend of Sodom and Gomorrah …. Ken Tankersely and his colleagues have also uncovered compelling evidence for a meteor airburst over the Ohio River Valley circa 350 AD that wiped out the Hopewell culture ….Both of these bolide disasters coincide with temperature troughs in the Greenland ice core time series and eras of cultural trauma and civilizational interregnums in the Mediterranean

    • bobn permalink
      November 23, 2022 4:57 pm

      Precisely, its started already. To escape Global Cooling over 100,000 Brits have migrated to Spain and Italy to escape the cold. My dad fled the encroaching cold in NZ for the warmth of Brisbane Aus. The great climate migration to warmer climes started decades ago!

    • Julian Flood permalink
      November 23, 2022 6:56 pm

      Beat the rush. Move to the Sahara now.

      JF

  3. Graeme No.3 permalink
    November 23, 2022 10:41 am

    Splendid. I recommend she(?) go and live in a cave on Svalbard. She will be safe from Global Warming there, and dodging the ‘starving’ polar bears there will tone up her fitness (physical anyway, I doubt there is much else that can be improved).
    And would someone tell her(?) that the next COP is 11.5 months away and hysteria should be reserved for the 2 months before that.

    • Mike Jackson permalink
      November 23, 2022 12:52 pm

      Maybe this is one that didn’t make the cut for COP26? 🤓

  4. Tim Leeney permalink
    November 23, 2022 10:44 am

    The Wiki entry about her is interesting. Certainly a busy bee. I suspect she may be right about “one to three billion people are projected to be left outside the climate conditions that have served humanity well over the past 6,000 years”, but that it will be due to the big freeze as we leave this mild interglacial, possibly quite soon now, judging by the length of the last ones.

    • John Hultquist permalink
      November 23, 2022 5:37 pm

      That Wiki entry indicates she has had “Adventures in the Anthropocene …” {part of one of her book titles}.
      This is of the Fantasy Genre that generates large bank accounts for the best practitioners. J. K. Rowling, Stephen King, and Jean Auel come to mind.

    • Chaswarnertoo permalink
      November 24, 2022 8:07 am

      We appear to have dodged this round of glaciation, due to the Milankovitch wobble being a little one. However, the next one is a doozy.

      • Stuart Hamish permalink
        November 24, 2022 9:11 am

        Oh you have dodged something alright ..The Little Ice Age was the coldest period of the Holocene and had nothing to do with orbital wobbling cycles ….Nor the Late Antiquity Little Ice Age or the Younger Dryas millennial glaciation ..Milankovitchs antiquated hypothesis cannot explain the ‘flickering’ observable in the late Pleistocene epoch temperature reconstructions…….As I remarked a few days ago here , 14700 years ago Greenland ice cores show temperatures escalated by 10C in just 3-4 years and 11700 years before present the warming was in the order of another 10C within 50 – 60 years ..Lt General Nugee and the UK Ministry of Defence are fashionably fretting about another 1.5 C upsurge in temperature following a mere 1C rise over 170 years as if this modest temperature resurgence was some ‘climate emergency “…..Good lord the Arctic ocean may become navigable again as it was 7000 years ago when atmospheric CO2 was 270 – 280 ppm ..
        Vladimir Putin and the Russian mafia state are laughing their heads off

    • Stuart Hamish permalink
      November 24, 2022 8:13 am

      ” an urgent investigation of the most underreported seismic consequence of climate change : how it will force us to choose where – and how we live It is a book of solutions and also a rousing call to arms describing how we can manage and plan for the now unavoidable climate migration and restore the planet to a fully habitable state ” ..

      .We were warned of these hordes of climate and ecological collapse refugees decades ago ever since the Earth Day doomsaying and the 1970’s global cooling crisis .None have materialized ..The Maldives are not depopulated or any other Indo – Pacific islands . There is no Climate Camp of the Saints on the horizon you silly green fright-bat

      There could be a cinematic send up in the wings ” How about the ‘Girl With the Paul Ehrlich Ear-ring “? . It could become a cult classic

  5. Penda100 permalink
    November 23, 2022 10:45 am

    Why does the BBC air her views? Because they are a propaganda outfit and are only interested in opinions that conform to the climate emergency/catastrophe/breakdown narrative. They are not interested in facts or any discussion of alternative views. Oh, and don’t you just love that wonderful justification “according to some estimates” . Given the number of pseudo climate scientists, I guess you can find an estimate for anything however outlandish e.g. climate change affecting slavery.

    • November 23, 2022 1:19 pm

      Here’s one estimate — ‘Large parts of Europe are warming twice as fast as the planet on average’
      NOVEMBER 22, 2022

      https://phys.org/news/2022-11-large-europe-fast-planet-average.html

      Does the tune sound familiar? At least there must be areas warming half as fast for the ‘victims’ to move to if/when things become unbearable 🙄

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        November 24, 2022 9:30 am

        I got that sum wrong last time – if they are warming twice as fast then equal areas must be not warming at all.

        Say average warming is one degree. Half the world is warming at two degrees. Thus the other half must be warming at zero degrees. 0.5×2+0.5×0=1

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      November 23, 2022 6:47 pm

      “Why does the BBC air her views?” Because she writes for The Guardian?

  6. Harry Passfield permalink
    November 23, 2022 11:06 am

    She’s obviously related in some way to Lady Nugee’s brother-in-law – Lt Gen Nugee – who is claiming (in DT) that CC will bring new challenges for our RN ships as the seas warm. Of course, it had to be an Army man to claim that the RN, which sails ships all over the world, from Arctic waters to tropical seas, will not be able to cope with a couple of degrees change – if it ever happened – in sea temps.

    • GeoffB permalink
      November 23, 2022 12:05 pm

      I just read the Nugee article, what a twat, how do Navy ships operate now in warmer tropical waters? If it is a problem than you just add in more cooling stages, their is an infinite amount of cooling water available, of course this risks heating the oceans even more and will cause irreparable damage to the eco system (fish, krill and plankton etc) so the green loons will be up in arms. He also seems to confuse tidal range with sea level rise!

      • Ben Vorlich permalink
        November 23, 2022 12:34 pm

        The Royal Navy Type 45 Destroyers have had a history of engine cooling problems, especially in tropical waters. Total engine failure in some cases. These faults have cost a fortune to rectify. It’s a typical sorry tale of government procurement and nothing to do with Climate Change.

        https://www.navylookout.com/final-cure-for-type-45-destroyer-propulsion-problems-announced/#:~:text=Problems%20with%20the%20intercooler-recuperator%20fitted%20to%20the%20Type,our%20most%20widely%20read%20articles%20back%20in%202016.%29

      • Stuart Hamish permalink
        November 25, 2022 4:25 am

        Have you read this Geoff B , Harry Passfield ?….It turns out Lady Nugee graced a Westminster North Labor Party fundraising swahree – a ‘ champagne reception with canapes ”
        no less – in support of Corbyn Labor https://order-order.com/2018/02/06/champagne-socialism-lady-nugee/ As I recall Jeremy Corbyn – the ardent ” friend” of Islamist terrorists called for the abolition of the British Army and the disbanding of NATO . I wonder how that went down with climate evangelist Lt General Richard Nugee who virtue signaled he had abjured 80% of meat intake from his diet ..Now I’m sure Lt Gen Nugee never cast a vote for Jezza but is he still fond of indulging champagne and meatless canapes like Lady Nugee and Labors elites ?… Whats on the menu for the MoD gay coffee mornings ?.

        Nugee may wish to brush up on his miltary and maritime history … From navigators journals and monastic chronicles and an assortment of proxy records it is known the Atlantic seas during the Medieval Warm Period were not as stormy and clogged with sea ice which made long distance ocean journeys less hazardous . Similar conditions seem to be Globally cyclonic frequency is at the lowest ebb in the 40 year time series since 1987 and 1981 so the only jeremiad he has is the concern warmer oceans may disrupt naval warship engines ?

    • liardetg permalink
      November 23, 2022 10:33 pm

      Speaking as a naval person with 40 years service, that army officer is quite right. If the ocean gets just a bit too warm it affects the floatability of a warship and it tends to sink.

      • dave permalink
        November 25, 2022 10:23 am

        Other things can affect the floatability of a warship. My father was sunk several times during WW2 (how am I even here?) I think he once mentioned a rather good Stuka pilot who put a bomb down his funnel.

  7. November 23, 2022 11:07 am

    The Royal Society launched Gaia Vince in 2015, when she won its once prestigious Science Book Prize, with her eco-travel-and-hand-wringing-concern book “Adventures in the Anthropocene”.

    This is the prize that was won by real scientists such as Roger Penrose and Stephen Jay Gould when it started in the 1980s. Now it tends to be won by books about woke-consciousness.

    She now sometimes presents the once prestigious science programme on BBC Radio 4, I suspect that Alexa gets a lot of “mutes” when that starts.

    • November 23, 2022 11:11 am

      Yes, she regularly spouts nonsense on Radio 4, so she fits in well with their band of environmental/science reporters.

      • November 23, 2022 12:28 pm

        The BBC Sciencey Gang give rave reviews of any book by one of their members, and most people have never heard of any scientist not in the gang.

    • Curious George permalink
      November 23, 2022 4:04 pm

      James Lovelock abandoned the GAIA hypothesis. She is now an orphan.

      • Stuart Hamish permalink
        November 24, 2022 8:41 am

        James Lovelock flip – flopped on the climate apocalypse multiple times …He found religion …lost it ……and found it again

    • Stuart Hamish permalink
      November 24, 2022 11:27 am

      Has anyone told Gaia Vince the IPCC is not convinced of the existence of climate refugee ” phantoms ?

      Climate Refugees : Do Not Hype Up The Problem , Institut Montaigne , Bruno Tertrais , 15 Oct ,2021 https://institutmontaigne.org/en/analysis/climate-refugees-do-not-hype-problem

  8. Jack Broughton permalink
    November 23, 2022 11:10 am

    An interesting and sensible assessment of the reason people move is in Statista today: The World’s Biggest Diasporas Katharina Buchholz, Statista.com. Nov 22, 2022
    “Countries currently or recently embroiled in war also have large diasporas as a result. This applies to Syria, where around 30 percent of a population of 28 million now live abroad, as well as South Sudan (21 percent). Countries that are being severely mismanaged by their governments include Eritrea at an 18.5 percent diaspora share and Venezuela at 16.6 percent. An even bigger diaspora can be found in El Salvador at 20.4 percent. A civil war ended in the small Central American country in 1992, but gang violence has prevailed. The biggest diaspora driven by conflict, however, is seen in a non-sovereign territory, as more than 45 percent of those born in Palestine currently reside abroad, according to the U.N. figures.”

    Climate change is a non-starter in this debate!

    • dave permalink
      November 24, 2022 9:32 am

      “…the reason people move…”

      Walking along the seashore they find a rubber boat, with a pamphlet attached to it telling them where there is an unlocked country.

      I have lived in or visited many countries, and so I obviously believe in freedom of movement as generally a good thing. But there are limits. Every party has uninvited guests of the, “This is my brother. I hope there’s room for one more?” kind. However, the hostess will be less than pleased with, “And those louts pissing in the garden are his rugger mates.”

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      November 24, 2022 9:39 am

      Ahbut all these conflicts are caused by climate change! There’s no escaping it.

      • dave permalink
        November 25, 2022 10:32 am

        Yes, Putin was a really nice bloke until the climate emergency changed him. He was known as the sweety of the KGB. Not a trace of Panslavism in him. He is also known for definitely not developing oil and gas fields.

  9. Andrew Harding permalink
    November 23, 2022 11:14 am

    I have been following the AGW propaganda since my children were toddlers, they are now in their mid 30’s.

    We were told 20+ years ago that we would have climate refugees heading north to Newcastle where I have lived for over 40 years due to desertification of southern England. Apparently, I would be able to cultivate a vineyard too!

    I am typing this in my well insulated house with an outside temperature of 5.2 C, yesterday it was 3.3C. Fortunately, I did not plant any vines, the road gritter that went past my house last night would have destroyed them!

    • Mike Jackson permalink
      November 23, 2022 12:58 pm

      Our minimum last night was 0.8 — and that’s in Burgundy where they do plant vineyards!

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      November 24, 2022 9:47 am

      The curse of the average. Ten days at 25 degrees versus 5 at 25 and 5 at 23 produces an increase in the average temperature of one degree. But nobody and nothing would notice.

      • dave permalink
        November 24, 2022 8:44 pm

        They do not need you to notice. They are satisfied if later you think you noticed.

  10. MrGrimNasty permalink
    November 23, 2022 11:43 am

    Couple of stories.
    Maybe if successive governments hadn’t deliberately pursued energy policies guaranteed to grossly inflate the cost eh!
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11456463/NHS-doctors-prescribing-patients-HEATING-winter-cost-living-trial.html
    https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-11457237/Homes-smart-meters-plunged-darkness-REMOTE-CONTROL.html

  11. Joe Public permalink
    November 23, 2022 11:45 am

    ““Without action, hundreds of millions people will have to leave their homes by 2050 ….”

    Antarctica is still waiting for its first shipment.

    “Climate change will force refugees to move to Antarctica by 2030, researchers have predicted.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/earthnews/3353247/Climate-change-study-predicts-refugees-fleeing-into-Antarctica.html

  12. Mr Robert Christopher permalink
    November 23, 2022 11:49 am

    The one star review of the book on Amazon, by ‘Amazon Customer’, on the 3rd September, though I cannot verify its veracity, does give a very dark description of the underlying narrative.

    It’s no surprise to those who are aware what is going on, and the fact that it is dressed up as fighting Climate Change just confirms that it originates from the source common of most of the Green Cr*p aimed at those with European heritage.

  13. Martin Brumby permalink
    November 23, 2022 11:55 am

    Not airing.
    Promoting.

  14. Chris Phillips permalink
    November 23, 2022 11:56 am

    Unfortunately, our children are being indoctrinated in this climate catastrophe nonsense by climate activist teachers in the schools. Some are being told that they have no future because, in 10 years time, the world will be unliveable. You hear this sort of stuff being parroted by JSO protestors and some of them apparently sincerely believe it. I think this is child abuse by teachers but there seems to be no will to stop it. I fear for my grandchildren who are just starting school.

    • bobn permalink
      November 23, 2022 5:03 pm

      Due to the lies and propaganda now being taught in schools I think my grandkids will need to go to a private school where I can vet the teachers and curriculum, or they’ll be home-schooled (good job for grandad in his retirement).

      • November 23, 2022 11:39 pm

        Yes This problem goes back many years. We went private for our kids for similar reasons back in the late 60s, Cost a bomb it did.

        A colleague of mine said—: “OK for your kids Alasdair; but what of those left behind? They will be running the country in 40 years time”
        Indeed I think back on that and realise how prescient it was.

  15. November 23, 2022 12:01 pm

    Drivel is as drivel does…..

  16. HotScot permalink
    November 23, 2022 12:16 pm

    The impending refugee crisis of over 8m people from Ukraine, flooding across Europe will be cited as “a climate crisis” or something equally asinine.

    • Ben Vorlich permalink
      November 23, 2022 12:40 pm

      I imagine that now Putin has destroyed most of Ukraine’s energy distribution system that citizens remaining in the country will be hoping for a milder winter than the Wehrmacht endured in 1941-42 and 1942-43.

      • dave permalink
        November 23, 2022 4:22 pm

        “…destroyed…”

        The Ukrainians have deliberately (I applaud them for their nous)
        exaggerated the damage. Keeps the propaganda pot on the boil.
        100% of the country has electric power again, though rationed.

        Ukraine wants a cold winter. Russia’s army is unprepared for it. The fathead generals gambled that the 300,00 mobics thrown into the meat-grinder would somehow make Ukraine give up before the real winter.

      • bobn permalink
        November 23, 2022 5:07 pm

        Dont know where you get your info from Dave. The Ukie Govt yesterday said its electricity was running at 45% and wouldnt be fully restored for months even with no new attacks.
        Guess you listened to the BBC! They tell as many lies about Ukraine as they do about climate.

      • dave permalink
        November 24, 2022 4:07 pm

        “…restore it…”

        They restore it easily enough. But more missiles arrive.
        70 yesterday of which 19 got through, apparently.

        Nato has been stingy with its best air-defense systems.

  17. eastdevonoldie permalink
    November 23, 2022 1:25 pm

    Yet another CC ‘prediction’ to add to the Extinction Clock:

    https://extinctionclock.org/

    In October 1970 we had this nonsense:

    America subject to water & food rationing, says Paul Ehrlich (Stanford).
    From the Redlands Daily Facts (page 3), quote: “America will be subject to water rationing by 1974 and food rationing by 1980”.

    Not a single one has actually happened!

    Roll on COP 28………….

    • November 23, 2022 3:44 pm

      Yes it is comforting to know with a 97.5% probability factor that CC predictions are ALWAYS wrong ; so we can Chill out and put another log on the fire.

      • bobn permalink
        November 23, 2022 5:09 pm

        97.5% ? I thought they were running at 99.9% failed.

      • dave permalink
        November 25, 2022 10:38 am

        “…99.9% failed.”

        Reminds me of Andy Capp coming home frpm playing football.

        Flo: “Ow’d ya do Pet?”

        Andy: “We were going great. And then the British Legion scored six or seven lucky goals.”

    • John Hultquist permalink
      November 23, 2022 5:50 pm

      Regarding food rationing, do an image search using DuckDuckGo with the single word “supermarket”. You might want to add ‘UK’ to that if not inclined to see only what is available in the colonies.

  18. Gamecock permalink
    November 23, 2022 1:26 pm

    “Without action, hundreds of millions people will have to leave their homes by 2050″

    Which way is this threat supposed to work? That they will be coming here, or that WE will be the ones moving? People moving in thirty years doesn’t scare me any. In 30 years, BILLIONS will probably change their residences.

    With Net Zero, we won’t get far. A few miles a day.

  19. November 23, 2022 2:15 pm

    Projectile vomiting is a crowded field indeed if British Barfcasting Corporation subsidies are in play.

  20. November 23, 2022 3:36 pm

    Thanks I have avoided reading this bit of BBC drivel and think I still have my sanity.

    I recall that this woman has been mentioned elsewhere and again I avoided her as with a name like Gaia she had probably been brainwashed from birth.

    I cannot understand why the BBC Continues to trash it’s reputation over this Climate Nonsense. Perhaps it has been institutionally brainwashed itself; maybe by its Guardian ‘in house’ communist Newspaper.

  21. John189 permalink
    November 23, 2022 4:11 pm

    And why is the BBC map in Slovak?

  22. iggie permalink
    November 23, 2022 10:44 pm

    ‘“The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
    • Kenneth Watt, Ecologist

    Check all the predictions made at Earth Watch in 1970.

    https://www.plaintruth.com/the_plain_truth/2016/04/earth-day-predictions-of-1970-the-reason-you-shouldnt-believe-earth-day-predictions.html

  23. November 24, 2022 7:57 am

    I guess you can find an estimate for anything however outlandish e.g. climate change affecting slavery.

  24. Phoenix44 permalink
    November 24, 2022 9:35 am

    I got that sum wrong last time – if they are warming twice as fast then equal areas must be not warming at all.

    Say average warming is one degree. Half the world is warming at two degrees. Thus the other half must be warming at zero degrees. 0.5×2+0.5×0=1

  25. Stuart Hamish permalink
    November 24, 2022 11:18 am

    “one to three billion people are expected to be left outside the climate conditions that have served humanity well over the past 6000 years ” ….

    Just as well modern human societies are outside the charnel house climatic conditions of the multi centennial droughts of the Medieval Warm Period and the regular harvest failures and mass starvations of the Little Ice Age and live in an age of decreasing extreme weather disasters and soaring agricultural yields

    • dave permalink
      November 26, 2022 8:29 am

      The hive-mind seem seems to have slipped back into almost explicit belief that the Earth was made for us by ‘the Gods’ and it is presumptuous to question their dispensation.

      This is hardly ‘following the Science’!

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