By Paul Homewood
David Viner – March 2000
“within a few years winter snowfall will become "a very rare and exciting event"”.
“Children just aren’t going to know what snow is,"
December 2022
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
Is it weather modification? Or is he blaming “climate change”? Weather modification is man-made. But global warming in an ice age isn’t even possible. What’s Viner smoking? .
Perfect weather for solar panels and wind turbines.
Did the penny just drop at Sky News UK?
Future of renewable energy in balance as UK suffers wind drought – with ‘global stilling’ to come
The UK is gambling on wind in the future of renewables – but as we’re seeing, having the turbines doesn’t make them turn.
https://news.sky.com/story/future-of-renewable-energy-in-balance-as-uk-suffers-wind-drought-with-global-stilling-to-come-12766917
Mutterings about ‘vast amounts’ of storage required – as if 🙄
Has any renewable advocate ever looked at the specifications of a wind turbine. Then looked at the formula for Kinetic Energy and how the mass in that equation is derived, because Montgomery Scott applies, bigger is the only option, because any other improvements are marginal, and still suffers from the same problem
Yes, that’s why they want to build twice as many of them. Now, what is twice zero?
Zero energy, but twice the cost, paid by us of course, to produce the same fat zero!
In a sense he was right: most people these days have little experience of snow, and are totally unprepared (or experienced) in coping with it. Not helped by cars with poor ground clearance, and fat low profile tyres. As the clip showed, no amount of fancy ABS/traction/stability controls will help when you have NO traction to begin with…
For my parents to agree to my using my own money to buy the first car (1966 Mustang in Dec. 1965), I had to agree to learn to change the tire and put chains on the car. The chains part came in oh, so handy.
I went off to grad school at The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill where they have ice storms. I also crossed the Appalachians on my way going and coming. Chapel Hill did not understand winter and ice storms. Many a late afternoon, I waited until everyone was through playing on the streets and abandoned their cars….then went to my car, installed the chains and putted off to my apartment.
When returning to Chapel Hill one Thanksgiving and after sliding off the road 3 times while crossing WV’s Cheat Mountain on rte 250 (elev. 4000’+), I pulled over to install the chains. As I finished a WV State Trooper stopped to ask if I needed help. He asked if I had seen a cement truck? I said, “yes” and he replied, “well be careful because he is over on his side in the road ahead of you”.
In the video, the only thing which would do much good are chains and definitely gently pumping your brakes. Oh, well…..
“And definitely gently pumping your brakes”
Won’t do any good now – the mandatory ABS will intervene in any case. I remember in the early days of said technology that Mercedes admitted that fresh show was the one situation where deliberately locking the wheels would stop you shorter than letting ABS keep them turning. I believe, for a short time, some German cars had a switch to de-activate it, but the authorities didn’t like the idea of drivers being allowed to make their own decisions.
The police had to teach their drivers to “Un-Learn” the Cadence braking they had been taught, when ABS equipped cars came onto the fleet. I had to do the same (I taught myself) many years later, although I’ve still got one car without any electronics onboard. I have to remember which one I’m driving…
I mean you guys (and guyesses) do get snow every year. Must be great to live in Vermont. So you must be ready.
Hi Joan. 40 years ago I lived in Raleigh for a couple of years and sometimes worked between there and RTP. One winter we had about one cm of snow and Raleigh came to a standstill as the city had no budget (didn’t really need one) for snow ploughs (ok…plows). It was quite a fun time. 😃
A totally different experience to when I was picked up from Stockholm airport in November years later: the taxi driver scared the wotsit out of me driving on the icy roads like a madman. Then he explained, it was the law to fit chains from October. Makes an amazing difference! Cheers!
Vermont is way north of me. I live in northern West Virginia, just below the Pennsylvania line.
Can I assume you’re a resident of Southern England?
One aspect of winter driving that doesn’t get much of a mention is the way that the design of “ordinary” tyres has changed. I read an article some years ago (Autocar?) which explained that the tyre manufacturers had made their standard tyres more summer-oriented since so many mid-to-northern European countries had mandated the use of winter tyres.
So modern cars perform worse on snow and ice than their predecessors – unless the owner fits all-season or full winter tyres.
Thankfully my 36 year old Diahatsu with mud/snow tyres coped admirably with no electronic aids in sight!
Children already don’t know what a proper Climate Scientist looks like.
Brilliant comment!
I second that hehe
Thirded!
…. and now may the fourth be with you…
I lived in the Washington, DC area during the 1970’s. Massachusetts Avenue contained a number of embassies and many of the occupants could not drive in winter weather. I well remember the morning news showing tree-lined Mass Ave. with a car nosed into every tree. Quite the amusing sight.
I did a phone interview with him and Philip Stott at about the same time for Farmers Weekly; he was most unimpressed when, having talked to both sides of the debate, I sided with the excellent Stott in the finished article. I wish I’d kept his email; my very own climategate email!
Hi Charlie, I met Philip Stott once. Probably one of the most enthusiastic, sincere and charming people I’ve ever met. And the subject of climate change never came up despite talking about vineyards in Kent!
Does this sound familiar?
“The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer, and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard‐of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.” —
from an Associated Press report published in The Washington Post on Nov. 2, 1922.
The Global Warming Apocalypses That Didn’t Happen
Electricity North West has just allocated us a “Rota Block letter”. They are not, apparently, going to turn our electricity off but just want to be prepared. However, the electricity that they are not apparently going to turn off could be off for up to three hours, once or twice per day.
It could be more than twice a day according to the emergency code:
Click to access esec-guidance.pdf
That’s a useful link. Thank you. Problem for households and farms on our hill here is that our water is pumped up to us. No power = no water. Then, when the power is resupplied, someone from the utilities has to come out to restart the pump. If they remember, or aren’t doing something else.
Ho!Ho!Ho! Merry Christmas!
No doubt those in the church of Global Warming will just say that yesterday’s snow was a ‘weather event’, and claim the earth is still burning up. They should be made to say that face-to-face to the many who are freezing in their homes because they cannot afford the energy bills to keep warm, energy bills that the Net Zero policies are directly responsible for escalating.
The only way to drive in snow is to get into the highest gear your car will tolerate as soon as you can, if that does not work get out of the car and leave it.
You could always buy a good set of winter tyres. I can highly recommend Nockian (Norwegian or Finnish?) which I used to fit to all my cars and ran them all year round. I got 30,000 miles out them easily.
In the bad winter of 2009/10 I was running a Citroen Grand Picasso fitted with them and was happily and safely driving past stranded 4×4’s. I was only stopped once, when I drove up a farm track and the snow built up under the engine lifting the front wheels off the ground.
I once got 37,000 out of a set of Avon Icerunners (including summer use), on my 4wd A6.
I mean you guys (and guyesses) do get snow every year. Must be great to live in Vermont. So you must be ready.
We can see the Scout Moor wind turbines from our front window, here in Rossendale. They have been still now for 3 days and I remember they were once still when it was minus 8 degC outside.
But I am not moaning, every one of our trees has a full covering of snow and the patterns on the branches of the deciduous trees are quite spectacular. In fact when the sun shines the view would make a lovely Christmas card photo. Hope the snow keeps coming and wind keeps away.
I remember a great holiday in Iceland at the end of May 2018. We arrived to pick up the car at Reykavik airport in torential rain and VERY windy. Told, whatever we did, hold onto the car door when opening. They’d had some blown off just that morning!
Anyway, the storm abated and we had some variable but occasionally nice weather until one morning we were driving from Húsafell to Siglufjörður, and had planned to take a “short cut”. However, opening the hotel curtains we found everything white over. (28 May?). We had hired a 4-WD car although the ground clearance wasn’t great. We checked with the Icelandic Highways people who confirmed that our route was certainly open.
Off we went and had gone well, encountering very little traffic when it started snowing again and I became concerned we might ground the car. Then we found the road totally blocked by an Electric car (forgot which make) which had very little ground clearance and was completely stuck. The young (English) girl driver had never driven in snow before and had never driven an Electric car before, either.
Eventually, various other vehicle showed up including a Polar Bear – sized local, in a Landcruiser. But even that couldn’t shift this little electric thing (with a virtually flat battery), so I fear I left them to it. I am well used to driving off road, but I thought this was no place for a 70 year old to linger whilst the snow continued to deepen.
I was and still amazed that an Icelandic car hire company would hire out an EV, in a beautiful country whose weather is ‘Bi-Polar’, as the hotel receptionist put it.
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well those children have now grown up and one thing is certain. they cant drive.
With all the hoo-ha about a cold spell at the moment, has there been any incidents with electric powered vehicles breaking down, running flat or passengers suffering from lack of heating when trapped? Also any news about how these heavier vehicles behave on snow and ice?