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Who To Believe? The BBC Or Your Lyin’ Eyes?

January 20, 2023

By Paul Homewood

Gaslighting is defined as manipulating someone so as to make them question their own reality:




German police have denied being "extras for Greta Thunberg" after false claims that her detainment at a protest in western Germany was staged.

A viral post falsely claimed the climate activist being held by police was "all set up for the cameras".

Ms Thunberg and other activists were seeking to stop the abandoned village of Lützerath from being demolished for the expansion of a coal mine.

The video of her being removed by police has gained millions of views.

"We would never give ourselves to make such recordings," a spokesperson for local police told the BBC, denying allegations that Ms Thunberg’s detainment was fake.

But it is important that the police enable reporting and guarantee the protection of media workers, they added.

The viral video shows the climate campaigner flanked by police officers on either side.

Meanwhile a few photographers can be seen snapping photos and moving around her, as Ms Thunberg smiles.

Several other police officers who were also standing nearby appear to be waiting with her before walking her away from the scene.

Some online have jumped onto these moments of officers and Ms Thunberg waiting around, to falsely claim that it is part of a staged photo opportunity.

However the interior ministry of the western state of North Rhine-Westphalia told the BBC that the police officers and Ms Thunberg were waiting for logistical reasons.


Who do you believe? The BBC or your own lying eyes?


This is the video the BBC actually showed in their original story the day before:


For some reason they left out all of the bits that they did not want you to see:

Instead of gaslighting, why does not the BBC actually publish the full video, and let people decide for themselves?

17 Comments leave one →
  1. Harry Passfield permalink
    January 20, 2023 1:48 pm

    “A viral post falsely claimed the climate activist being held by police was “all set up for the cameras”.” (My bold)
    It’s just like every time they report on the 2020 US election which were ‘falsely claimed to have been rigged’. Now that’s what I could call gaslighting.

  2. Douglas Dragonfly permalink
    January 20, 2023 1:53 pm

    The German police must be really embarrassed at the moment.
    And all this is about gaining energy that ultimately keeps human beings alive. Madness everywhere.

  3. Joe Public permalink
    January 20, 2023 2:11 pm

    Can’t wait for the BBC’s enviro team to highlight the success of Germany’s Energiewende policy.

    Despite Germany and France having remarkably similar maximum and minimum electricity demands, yet again for 2022 Germany’s cleanest electricity generation is dirtier than France’s dirtiest.

    Perhaps some of your technically-astute readers could suggest reasons for (German) Green Party’s undoubted embarrassment?

  4. MrGrimNasty permalink
    January 20, 2023 2:37 pm

    As I said before, they were waiting for another bus. What do you expect the police to do, pin her in the mud and drown her and punch the photographer in the face?

    • Gamecock permalink
      January 20, 2023 7:10 pm

      You taking a poll?

  5. Gamecock permalink
    January 20, 2023 3:02 pm

    ‘Thunberg and her fellow activists were later released after an identification check, with the police confirming they would not be charged.’

    An ‘identification check.’ Complete with photographers.

    They were ‘detained’ with no expectation of arresting them. Just to check their IDs.

    Why did Ms Thunberg have to be put on a bus to check her ID. Indeed, do the Aachen police not know who she is? Shouldn’t the police have been arrested for that?

    Looks like the police lift was the most fun Greta ever had. Never seen her smile before.

    ‘”We would never give ourselves to make such recordings,” a spokesperson for local police told the BBC, denying allegations that Ms Thunberg’s detainment was fake.’

    Clever verbiage. The detainment wasn’t fake. She was detained. We can see it in the pix/vids. That has no bearing on the nature of the cop’s involvement.

    The story is that some protestors rushed a geographic feature, therefore, the cops had to check their IDs.

  6. GeoffB permalink
    January 20, 2023 3:42 pm

    Just why is some uneducated girl getting so much attention as a climate expert, surely in the real world she is just a nobody.

    • Nigel Sherratt permalink
      January 20, 2023 3:55 pm

      She can see CO2, unlike us mere mortals.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      January 20, 2023 8:10 pm

      “some uneducated girl” Thing is Geoff she is a 20 year old woman. Let that sink in for a moment. So why is she portrayed as a “girl”… presumably a divine virgin? Why are people who are allowed to take make humorous jokes about adults in the public eye not allowed to make jokes about Greta?
      Personally up to age 18 I felt she was the subject of child abuse by her predator parents whilst now I feel she is just plain evil and making a fortune out of it.
      Surely some tabloid could set up a sting operation to get a young (very brave) lad to seduce her and do a “kiss and tell” exposé – would make a fortune.

      • Matt Dalby permalink
        January 22, 2023 8:29 pm

        Given that she is on the autistic spectrum and has a history of mental health problems she might, in some countries, be classed as a vunerable adult and is therefore still be abused and manipulated.

  7. January 20, 2023 4:05 pm

    Does ANYBODY give a flying monkey’s what this deranged ‘gweenie’ kiddie says or does?? We very well clued-up ‘cynics’ do NOT believe there’s ANY global warmin’ ‘catastrophe’, or that ‘our world’s on fire’, or that CO2 is a dangerous pollutant! Slick ‘people’ are becoming enormously RICH via charges, taxation, congestion charging, the ULEZ NIGHTMARE etc. LOOK AGAIN at these people without your rose tinted glasses, it’s ALL a VAST SCAM.

  8. John Hultquist permalink
    January 20, 2023 5:26 pm

    She is a known “face” and got the attention even though she was late to the party. The unknowns of the past 2 years may also have been photographed and identified but didn’t make it into the media. Disappointment?
    I had missed the playing in the mud part!

  9. Dave B permalink
    January 20, 2023 6:30 pm

    She did seem to rather enjoy it.
    Carried by those big strong young men

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      January 20, 2023 7:47 pm

      Comedian Lee Hurst was banned from Twitter when he raised the point that St Greta might have a different view on single use plastics when she discovered sex. She is of course now a 20 year old woman looking like a cross breed of a 9 year old girl and ET – now why is that?

  10. Ray Sanders permalink
    January 20, 2023 7:41 pm

    A dumb question I guess, but why do all these “Europeans” feel the necessity to speak in the language of us Brits, Americans, Australians et alia?
    Why does St Greta of Sweden feel the need to address Germans in the language of a country both foreign to her and them?
    Can’t these foreign cheap skates get it on in their own insignificant languages?
    And no I am not xenophobic just fascinated about why these people feel the desperate need to appropriate the language of others. Or are their languages completely insignificant on a global scale….perhaps they should learn Mandarin etc…….

  11. Ray Sanders permalink
    January 21, 2023 11:36 am

    What the hell sort of a job title is “Climate disinformation reporter”?
    Clearly a description of a young woman who has barely just graduated from Cambridge with a degree in French and Arabic and whose primary role is to spread disinformation it would seem. It bit like Greta but probably not as well off nor as well miseducated.

  12. Gamecock permalink
    January 21, 2023 11:53 am

    The “climate disinformation reporter” is a FACT CHECKER, who determines truth. They are necessary, now.

    Speaking of truth, Ms Thomas’ photo looks like she is from the Mumbai Thomas’s.

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