Politics in Pubs
By Paul Homewood
Steve Davison has asked me to publicise two meetings of their local Politics in Pubs group in Manchester, discussing Net Zero policies. The second will see GWPF’s Benny Peiser speaking:
This topic is always in the news at present. Even the main stream legacy media is starting to question the costs and whether or not it will be achievable.
We will be kicking this off with a look at the data behind global warming and trying to get closer to an answer as to whether there is a climate emergency or not. This meeting will take place at our usual venue at the Welcome Inn, Bury Old Road, Whitefield, M45 6TA, Manchester, on Wednesday 23rd Aug 2023 at 7:30pm. See here for location.
The discussion will be led by one of our own members who will be presenting a case against the climate emergency narrative. If you do believe there is an emergency requiring drastic action, and therefore the need to spend almost any amount of money to address it, then we would be really pleased to have you join us. Please do bring along any data or references to scientific research and we’ll make sure you have a chance to argue your position.
Then on Thursday 14th September 2023, 7:30pm, we will be joined by our guest speaker, Dr Benny Peiser, who is the director of the Global Warming Policy Foundation and an active member of its campaigning arm, NetZero Watch. The title of Benny’s talk will be “The cost of Net Zero and its likely failure”. Venue to be announced.
For those unfamiliar with the GWPF, it was launched by Lord Nigel Lawson and Benny on 23 November 2009 in the House of Lords – in the run-up to the Copenhagen Climate Summit. From their mission statement:
People are naturally concerned about the environment, and want to see policies that enhance human wellbeing and protect the environment; policies that don’t hurt, but help.
The Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF) is committed to providing a platform for educational research and informed debates on these important issues.
In order to make progress and advance effective policy assessments, it is essential to cultivate a culture of open debate, tolerance and learning.
Our aim is to raise standards in learning and understanding through rigorous research and analysis, to help inform a balanced debate amongst the interested public and decision-makers.
We aim to create an educational platform on which common ground can be established, helping to overcome polarisation and partisanship. We aim to promote a culture of debate, respect, and a hunger for knowledge.
Benny has written extensively on domestic and international climate policy. In 1997 he founded CCNet, the world’s leading climate policy network. A 10km-wide asteroid, Minor Planet (7107) Peiser, was named in his honour by the International Astronomical Union!
This meeting is likely to be popular so to book your place please email us at info@politicsinpubs.org.uk.
We are growing!
We are expanding our activities via regional Politics in Pubs groups and have created a map where you can search for a group near you.
Don’t worry if you can’t find anything nearby as you can start your own group. If you would like to be put in touch with other people interested in talking about politics, please reply to this email letting us know your location and we’ll help to get the conversation started.
We are also planning to network with other free speech groups who have a similar interest in open discussion and debate. If you have such a group and want to appear on our map please get in touch.
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
This is a great idea!!
On today’s BBC 4’s ‘Life Scientific’ the scientist describes to Jim Alkhalili the technique how to know the Earth’s temperature going back 400,000 years. Also as CO2 is increasing it is necessery to limit it – one way being analysed is to sprinkle ground up rock (which is a CO2 absorber) on land if it has no bad effects on food production.
He is no crank, a member of the Royal Society etc, (not always infallible of course) but should be listened to if you wish to pick it apart, if possible!
Jim Al-Khalili is a grade one prick. He is so untrustworthy that if he shook my hand, I would count my fingers afterwards.
This is an example of just how ridiculous he is
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomchivers/scientists-are-appalled-at-the-bbc-putting-a-climate-denier
I quote “irresponsible and highly misleading to give the impression that there is a meaningful debate about the science” of climate change.
Nigel Lawson earned respect, Jim Al-Khalili only deserves contempt. As as for Brian (it can only get better) Cox ………
I recall an old black&white film about the development of Radar during WW2. Robert Watson-Watt presented his idea to the military who wanted to hand it over to government scientists.
Watson-Watt made a case for continuing to develop it himself by telephoning one of the government scientists, in front of the military types, pretending to be a GPO telephone engineer. He told the scientist there was a problem with the line and asked him to perform several implausible tests, culminating in asking him to place the telephone in a bucket of water.
Does anyone have Jim Al-Khalili’s telephone number?
My point was not about Jim Khalili but his guest’s prestigious background and his lifelong research credentials – what to make of his results?
Jim Khalili’s programme is to present his guest’s background and views not to argue about them. Did he agree and boost the views of his guest? If so, and I haven’t reheard it, then he is wrong to do so and probably against BBC rules.
The Life Scientific is on Radio 4 ? BBC4 is a TV channel.
I’ve read about the ground-up basalt idea. It makes me wonder what all the fuss is about, if all we have to do is spread millions of tons of the stuff all over the land. Apparently it is a fertilizer and soil conditioner, so should have a beneficial effect on food production.
I belong to a conservative lunch group in a nearby town. The leader is now in the West Virginia House of Delegates. We are kept up to date with what is going on w/in and w/o the State. Our speakers are local people, people in state government and our Congressman. There are a number of topical subjects. One woman, now in the House of Delegates, led the successful fight against “Common Core” in the schools.
One important purpose is to inform us so that we can inform others.
A good start. But there are many people who never go to pubs anyway and the smoking ban removed customers from most, so finding pubs still in existence could be tricky. However “face to face” wherever the location should be more effective than other means in getting people to think for themselves.
Manchester is a bit too far for people in Kent….anything of this type nearer Dover?thanksBen cos
Well I guess we could always start one up. The Archer at Whitfield has a big function room and the Indian next door is excellent!
It’s no problem for all the Man U supporters…
Be prepared for an activist invasion! We all know what those people are like.
Activists are indeed a sandwich short of a picnic but even they would not be so stupid as to try to cause problems at a meeting in a pub. Think about it, easy to demonstrate in Parliament Square or at any media event where “protection” is available. But try causing trouble in many boozers and you may not make it out alive.
On the other hand if a handful of them turned up they could always be dragged indoors and made to listen to the debates. They might actually learn something.
And we have to start somewhere.
Dr Peiser kindly agreed to attend a debate I was trying to organise locally. I also invited Chris Skidmore, but he’s not had the courtesy to reply. I shall keep trying……
Bridget, Chris Skidmore is my local MP and I have emailed him a couple of times asking floor what measurable return we would get for the billions we are spending on climate change,but only ever got standard boiler plate replies that didn’t answer the question. Good luck getting him to debate this.