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Texans Asked To Cut Electricity Use, As Wind Power Drops Off

August 18, 2023
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By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Dave Ward

 

What a surprise!!

 

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https://twitter.com/ERCOT_ISO/status/1692212135005237465

Fortunately Texas still has plenty of gas generation:

 

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https://www.eia.gov/electricity/gridmonitor/dashboard/electric_overview/balancing_authority/ERCO

31 Comments
  1. Kelland Hutchence permalink
    August 18, 2023 11:38 am

    Any Texan with more than three brain cells will have seen this coming at least three years ago.

  2. August 18, 2023 11:42 am

    Texas – the heartland of oil and gas – whet a joke

  3. August 18, 2023 11:58 am

    Okay, you there…..what happened to “Don’t mess with Texas?” You are being messed with bigly.

    • Gamecock permalink
      August 18, 2023 1:56 pm

      The fascists who left California brought it with them to Texas.

      Except Austin. It’s been socialist for many years.

      • CheshireRed permalink
        August 18, 2023 3:29 pm

        Flee bonkers California due to ruinous Left-wing policies.
        Move to Right-wing Texas…..vote for Left-wing party and wreck Texas!

      • Gamecock permalink
        August 18, 2023 9:13 pm

        That’s it, Mr Red.

        The California refugees believe in strong, autocratic, central government. The all powerful state. They are fascists. Regular Californians. Their beef with California is they don’t like what the state was doing with the power. They are fine with government having total power, they just didn’t like certain policy decisions.

        So they get to Texas, or worse, South Carolina, and they vote to give more power to the state, to make decisions they won’t like. Dragging us down with them.

        Their solution to bad government is more government.

  4. Harry Passfield permalink
    August 18, 2023 12:03 pm

    When you’ve got the word ‘reliability’ in your business title you become a hostage to fortune when you’ve also got wind and solar in your product mix. It would be better if the word was prefixed with: un.

  5. Realist permalink
    August 18, 2023 12:06 pm

    Texas used to be one of the sensible states but also seems to have been infiltrated by eco-terrorists and their obsessions with forcing unreliable, weather-dependent wind and solar

  6. Chris Phillips permalink
    August 18, 2023 12:32 pm

    I think we need to experience in the UK some electricity cutbacks and even blackouts, with tragically a few deaths from cold, before politicians will come to their senses (if they have any) and start to question the absurd and unachievable rush to net zero.

    • Chaswarnertoo permalink
      August 18, 2023 5:21 pm

      Around 15,000 people die from cold every year in formerly Great Britain.

      • Realist permalink
        August 18, 2023 8:46 pm

        There will be even more if the ridiculous bans of gas and oil boilers happen.
        >>Around 15,000 people die from cold every year in formerly Great Britain.

  7. gezza1298 permalink
    August 18, 2023 12:56 pm

    They should crank everything up and crash the grid to teach ERCOT a lesson. At least it is safer to do it now than in the winter when their grid failure killed over 500 people – this true figure includes those who died because hospitals were shutdown.

    Meanwhile in Germany, Senec storage battery maker is having problems with their batteries catching fire. There are tens of thousands installed across the country and Senec is remotely controlling their charging to try to reduce fires. These batteries have cost between 10,000 and 15,000 Euros. It could be bad news for the company if owners start to sue for their money back if their batteries are being throttled back.

  8. John Brown permalink
    August 18, 2023 1:56 pm

    In June Labour proposed to make energy “cheap and secure” with “zero carbon electricity by 2030” by quadrupling offshore wind, doubling onshore wind and tripling solar. Using these proposals I have attempted to analyse and compare the energy and power generated with demand by downloading the variable demand, wind and solar data for 2022 from the Gridwatch website into an Excel file as the basis for the calculations.

    I also calculate the additional renewable capacity required, together with some costings, to achieve a dispatchable (supply matching demand) system using either hydrogen or battery storage.

    If anyone is interested in a copy of this analysis please contact me at jbxcagwnz@gmail.com

    • In The Real World permalink
      August 18, 2023 4:48 pm

      The UK is supposed to be about the best place in the world for wind energy .
      But this paper shows just how intermittent it can be .http://www.iesisenergy.org/agp/Aris-Wind-paper.pdf
      It shows that the total output will only be over 80% of the rating for about 1 week of the year , and below 20% of its rating for over half of the year .

      So nobody with any sense should be using energy that is that unreliable to try to keep a grid working .

      • devonblueboy permalink
        August 18, 2023 4:53 pm

        There is the problem. Politicians have no sense at all; apart from how to feather their own nests.

      • Jack Broughton permalink
        August 21, 2023 8:12 pm

        Back to why windmills were replaced by steam engines in the 19th century!

  9. Chris permalink
    August 18, 2023 2:18 pm

    Notice the phase difference between the gas and wind production, with the peaks of gas aligned with the troughs of wind which is to be expected but I didn’t think the nuclear power would be cycled so much since it is normally base load.

    • Chris permalink
      August 18, 2023 2:22 pm

      I misread coal for nuclear. My mistake.

    • Ray Sanders permalink
      August 18, 2023 2:24 pm

      Chris I think you may be misinterpreting the colour coding. Isn’t the straight line across the nuclear output?

    • Gamecock permalink
      August 18, 2023 3:42 pm

      I drafted a couple of comments over the graph, then realized I had misread it, too.

      Though there may be a few things of interest.

      They show significant solar production for 10 hours a day. I assumed it would be no more than 6.

      I assume the variability in the gas production line is reaction to demand, whereas wind/solar is reaction to supply (of weather supplied energy).

      I also noticed significant intraday variability of wind power. For 3 days, it varies by 50% (!) – 10k to 20k mWh. It is expected of solar, but I hadn’t realized it should also be expected of wind. Makes sense, though, as the breeze around here is usually strongest in late afternoon.

  10. John Hultquist permalink
    August 18, 2023 2:47 pm

    To get a grip on the issues in Texas, one needs to understand that Texas had T. Boone Pickens of oil, water, and a leading advocate for wind energy. Find his Wikipedia page and search for “wind”.
    Follow the money.

    • roger permalink
      August 18, 2023 3:29 pm

      Following the money is a retrospective exercise and by necessity when implemented is legally already in the malefactors hands, said malefactors being lawmakers who write the enabling small print in legislation.
      There was a time in my eighty four years when the inherent shame at their actions ameliorated their worst excesses but the current incumbents of both Westminster houses are the most egregious and rapacious this country has seen since the Robber Barons of centuries ago.

      • devonblueboy permalink
        August 18, 2023 4:00 pm

        So sad, but very true

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      August 18, 2023 3:40 pm

      I met T Boone in 1986. He was visiting London to piece together what was driving the falling oil market. He was running a very large short position on NYMEX at the time. It was really the foundation of his more serious fortune. He did have a nose for following the money.

  11. energywise permalink
    August 18, 2023 3:44 pm

    Energy suppliers are under the cosh from national Governments (in the West) to go full on climate alarmist nut zero
    They are stuck between a rock and an hard place because, as Engineers, they know what works and what doesn’t – they know the inherent poor capabilities of weather dependent, unreliable wind & solar, but, they have to be seen to be supporting its grid inclusion
    Government regulators (Ofgem in the UK) are also eco warriors in suits and are full sign ups to the silly nut zero connery, thereby applying another layer of renewables biased energy bureaucracy and pressure to suppliers and grid operators
    The latest fad from regulators, as they are increasingly aware wind & solar just won’t power a nation without unaffordable, unresourceable storage systems, is to push consumer DSR – forcing (eventually) consumers to reduce energy consumption at peak times, to protect the grid from collapse when the over installed (at the sacrifice of reliable fossil fuel & nuclear generation sources) wind & solar power sources do not generate (what the Germans call dunkelflaute), dark, windless days / weeks
    In my opinion, it will take a long, hard, cold, dunkleflaute winter, with subsequent power outages, to bring common sense and engineering competence, back to the energy debate

  12. It doesn't add up... permalink
    August 18, 2023 3:47 pm

    The problem for Texas in Feb 2021 was they didn’t have enough dispatchable capacity when the wind dropped. That led to a cascading trip of multiple power stations when they ran out of reserve which took days to recover from.

    It seems they still suffer from the same problem of a shortage if dispatchable capacity. Demand has grown, and the new reliability market hasn’t had time to take full effect.

    • gezza1298 permalink
      August 18, 2023 9:44 pm

      The main problem was to have the gas supply infrastructure powered by the same grid that failed so that the flow of gas to the power stations also stopped. Blame some dodgy bloke with big ears and a Nobel prize for why the independence from the grid was removed.

      • It doesn't add up... permalink
        August 19, 2023 12:08 am

        That didn’t help, but it was only a secondary problem. It wasn’t the gas supply that caused the cascading trip: rather, the trip helped interrupt the gas supply. It happened while they still had about 5GW of wind, which later fell to 649MW at what would have been peak demand. They were always going to run out of dispatchable capacity.

  13. Gerry, England permalink
    August 19, 2023 11:50 pm

    And the spot price for electricity in Texas has risen by 6000% On Wednesday it was $75 mwh but by Thursday it was $4750!!! Unreliable energy, the gift that just keeps given.

  14. Iain Reid, permalink
    August 20, 2023 7:53 am

    A liitle pedantic, as it doesn’t alter the graph, but as the base line is time, the vertical scale should just be megawatts.

  15. John Dowling permalink
    August 22, 2023 9:15 am

    Good morning, we are threatened here on the Isle of Man with windfarms despoiling our pristine hills. In addition to the usual technical and environmental issues, we would like to prove that the influence on CO2 is minimal bearing in mind its heathland and the machines will probably be made in China. Are there any verifiable reports that show that manufacturing, transport and installation offsets any CO2 saving? Many thanks John

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