Democrats and Republicans deeply divided on extreme weather
By Paul Homewood
Nearly 150 million Americans were under heat alerts Tuesday, after July marked the planet’s hottest month on record. Devastating downpours dumped two months of rain on Vermont in two days. Smoke from Canadian wildfires choked East Coast skies, causing the worst air quality on record for some locations. And Hawaii is reeling from the deadliest U.S. wildfire in a century.
Yet while there is wide public concern over extreme weather, Americans are deeply divided — along partisan lines — on whether climate change is helping to drive these events, according to a Washington Post-University of Maryland poll.
The survey was conducted from mid- to late July, at the height of some of the hottest days the Earth has experienced in over 100,000 years. Not surprisingly, a large majority of U.S. adults — 74 percent — say they’ve experienced extremely hot days in the past five years.
But when asked if they think climate change is a major factor in those extremely hot days, 35 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say it is, compared with 85 percent of those who lean Democratic. Overall, 63 percent of Americans who experienced extremely hot days say climate change is a major factor.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/08/23/extreme-weather-climate-change-poll/
I guess it proves that Republicans are not as gullible!
“Not surprisingly, a large majority of U.S. adults — 74 percent — say they’ve experienced extremely hot days in the past five years.” – What an absurd thing to say! I’m sure the US gets hot every summer.
As for their four examples, none of them provide evidence that weather is becoming more extreme in the US. They are merely a reminder that bad weather can happen any year:
1) Heat Alerts
Like the UK, the US never used to have a system for issuing heat alerts in the past.
But as we know, heatwaves used to be much more intense in the 1930s. Even after excluding the 1930s, there is clearly no indication that heatwaves have got worse recently.
https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-heat-waves
2) Vermont Floods
As I posted yesterday, even Bernie Sanders admits that the 1927 Vermont floods were much worse than last month.
Given that there are 50 US States, on average you are likely to get a 1-in-100 year event every couple of years.
3) Canadian Wildfires
Nothing unprecedented there either.
Historical accounts of smoke and haze over the US, brought from Canadian wildfires, are abundant. For instance, this tale, courtesy of the New England Historical Society:
“The New England Dark Day was the darkest day of the American Revolution – a day as dark as night, a day when a candle was needed to see anything outside at noon. On May 19, 1780, the sun came up as usual, but then the skies over New England darkened as far north as Portland, Maine, and as far south as New Jersey. The Dark Day inspired terror, panic and puzzlement. Men prayed and women wept. Thousands left off work and took to taverns and churches for solace. Children were sent home from school. Bewildered chickens went to their roosts, frightened cattle returned to their stalls, the night birds whistled and frogs peeped as they did at midnight.”
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-climate-scaremongers-warning-its-summer/
4) Maui Wildfires
The Maui wildfires have zero to do with climate change. The local environmental experts are clear that the severity and rapid spread of the fire was due to the fact that plantations abandoned in the last couple of decades have become totally overgrown by invasive Savanna type grasses. In simple terms, a tinderbox, witing for a spark and the strong winds which would turn what might have been a containable event into a disaster.
Meanwhile the actual data tells us that weather disasters are not becoming more frequent:
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
There is a constant propaganda program going on to try to fool people that there is a climate change problem going on .
The July ” Hottest ever ” is just a load of lies .https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/08/03/top-climate-scientists-rubbish-claims-july-was-the-hottest-month-ever-public-being-misinformed-on-a-massive-scale/
And there is a program called ” Climate Reanalyzer ” being used to invent new temperature records . This is actually a computer Model , and is completely fake , but if enough people want to believe in it , they get away with their lies .
If by Climate Reanalyzer you’re referring to the model and website from University of Maine then up until the end of last year it seemed pretty good, then it appears they changed the algorithm and it seems that they’ve just added roughly 0.4 degrees to all the values. As an example last year between January and March the global daily anomaly was mostly between -0.1 and +0.3 degrees. This year it was at least +0.5 degrees most days yet the difference between the temperature anomaly averaged over the first 3 months of the year compared with the same period last year was less than 0.05 degrees on the UAH data set.
“…Climate Reanalyser…”
Yes, I stopped using it a year or so ago (except for the predictions of the jet-stream.) The signs of incipient corruption and betrayal are always clear in our Western organizations – when they are getting ready to “do their bit” in bringing us to our knees.
Who was keeping records 10,000 years ago?
Greenland ice core records show this is the coldest warm period in ten thousand years. Ice Core and other records show this is the coldest warm period in millions of years.
Why were there no “climate” hysterics in the 1930s in the USA or even 1976 in Europe?
They did not know how to monetize climate.
The Dust Bowl famine did attract a bit of attention at the time.
“…famine…”
No actual famine, as the overall agricultural resources of North America were, and are, enormous. A period of drought (1930-1936) occurred in an area with – at best – marginal rainfall for farming; and the succession of crop failures caused most farmers to leave.
The area had been used for sustainable stock raising until WWI.
Then it was put under the deep plow to produce grain, at the urging of the central government (always a mistake to listen to government!) That was ill-advised as the topsoil first eroded, and then blew away. However, by the early 1940s the region had completely recovered to be largely grass-land again. Which shows that natural disasters hardly ever last. Disasters caused by human pig-headedness do seem to last.
The truth is — and this is a documented fact — that the weather was hotter during the dust bowl days of the 1930’s. Republicans have better memories than Democrats. It’s too bad that people are still so trusting of the lying media. After all the lies they’ve been told they still don’t get it. Wake up, people!
In addition, the Northern Plains experienced very cold weather at that time.
Most maps of the Dust Bowl areas have the Oklahoma and Texas “panhandles” as the center of the region.
A great book on the topic is Timothy Egan’s “The Worst Hard Time: . . .”
‘whether climate change is helping to drive these events’ — is just an invitation to play a guessing game, based on the false assumption that ‘climate change’ means something specific and everyone knows exactly what that is.
Polling is the way to advance equitable science.
Three are 50 states but the Alarmists don’t stop at states. There are perhaps another 20 sub-divisions in each state and you can agglomeration states into regions, so they have perhaps 1,000 or more areas to claim.1 in 100 year events. So it’s a pretty good bet we will get a t leaat a couple every year.
I remember an extremely hot week in western Pennsylvania – in the mid-1950s. The exact year, I can’t recall. 1955 +/-.
Interestingly, I don’t recall being a Democrat or a Republican that year either! 🙂
The true absurdity is that the US has not warmed for at least the last 18 years:
Never said!
I see the NHC is busy forecasting a rise to Cat 3 intensity just before landfall for the hurricane aimed at Florida. Bet they struggle to find measurements to match when it hits. Meanwhile there is a much nastier hurricane over the Northern Philippines which might affect China and Hong Kong. Is Xi panicking?
‘Overall, 63 percent of Americans who experienced extremely hot days say climate change is a major factor.’
So it must be true. Science by popular vote. WaPo presents it as so.
‘Democrats and Republicans deeply divided’
Well, duh!
Proof positive of climate change, someone whose memory goes back 30 years can’t remember anything like it.
“I’ve never seen a flood here in my whole life,” says 38-year-old Zhang Junhua, standing next to a vast patch of rice, now completely useless. “We just didn’t expect it.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-66616699
This issue has only ever been about politics. Pay close attention that the lefties want it. Why on earth could that be I wonder?
“…politics…”
Especially politics when driven by the interests of elites. Their aim, when on the strategic defensive, is to shrink the scope of politics – to enable them to keep whatever they have. And Libertarians can often be sympathetic to the practical aspects of this.
However, when the elites are on the strategic offensive – as now – their aim is to expand the scope of politics and to “own” the new issues. They have been astonishingly successful recently. How on earth did the puppet masters make ordinary people think that a “crackdown” on the causes of bad weather is necessary? And even more ridiculous that one of these causes is – somehow – a wicked sect called “deniers?” All this is terrible for Liberty. It is terrible just for a person who wants to live a quiet, family-oriented, life!