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Mot motorists back postponement of 2030 ban

September 26, 2023

By Paul Homewood

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Regit’s motorists have emphatically backed the postponement of the 2030 ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel-powered cars, with 80% saying they support the decision.

The postponement of the ban was announced last week by PM Rishi Sunak but the decision has caused huge controversy within his party, while motor manufacturers and eco-activists were left raging.

Over 4,000 of Regit’s users completed the survey.

https://www.regit.cars/car-news/regits-motorists-back-postponement-of-2030-ban-and-say-its-more-likely-theyll-choose-alternative-fuels-over-electric-73663

I’m not surprised.

Of course these are only motorists being polled, but I suspect most of the public will have similar views (spouses and so on), or will have no strong views either way.

36 Comments
  1. amiright1 permalink
    September 26, 2023 6:37 pm

    Most?

  2. Devoncamel permalink
    September 26, 2023 6:40 pm

    Jaguar Land Rover supported the postponement, a fact not dwelt upon by the mainstream media.
    I also read Charles Moore’s leader in the Saturday Telegraph suggesting this may be the beginning of the end for Net Zero.

    • 186no permalink
      September 26, 2023 7:00 pm

      So did I, and Mr Moore is usually – and exceptionally – right on the money on a lot of topics. The thought that came to my mind was if he is right, what comes next – this is a civil war in all but name and reading Shelby Foote’s magnum opus x 3 instills in me that the death and destruction from 1861 -65 was accompanied by an almost chivalrous attitude and respect for one’s mortal enemy; if that represents a civilised society to some degree, I do not think we are “that” – it will get very ugly and the pressure that people in the UK have lived in, for whatever reason, for several decades will explode. Of that I am 100% certain.

    • Thomas Carr permalink
      September 26, 2023 7:17 pm

      How to impoverish the population:
      Ensure that fuel is expensive by forbidding development of cheap domestic resources.
      Ensure that private motoring is heavily taxed and EVs are unaffordable for the unskilled and semi skilled and those on a fixed income.
      Ensure that road exclusion zones are extensive in areas of dense population.
      Ensure that MPs prefer emotion to published authoritative facts.

  3. Realist permalink
    September 26, 2023 7:09 pm

    The need to demand that the ban be removed in its entirety.

  4. September 26, 2023 7:38 pm

    They’re going to be disappointed when 2030 arrives and 80% of new models for sale are electric, by order of the government – or if not, traders must pay massive fines per car.

    That’s likely to force up the price of the 20% (maximum) of non-electric ones, if the makers are even offering them by then.

    • September 26, 2023 7:50 pm

      For example –
      Nissan says all new models coming to Europe will be ‘100% electric from now’

      Nissan Motor Co said on Monday (25 September) all its new European models will be fully electric and it plans to sell only electric vehicles (EVs) on the continent by 2030, joining a growing number of carmakers shifting to electric by the end of the decade.

      “There is no turning back now,” Nissan CEO Makoto Uchida said in a statement, adding that “all new Nissan models from now [will] be all-electric in Europe”.

      https://www.euractiv.com/section/electric-cars/news/nissan-says-all-new-models-coming-to-europe-will-be-100-electric-from-now/

      New ICE’s could be fading from the scene sooner than people think.

      • Realist permalink
        September 26, 2023 7:53 pm

        Another manufacturer that doesn’t care what customers actually want.
        >> will be all-electric

      • Bob Webster permalink
        September 26, 2023 9:20 pm

        Does anyone in Europe concern themselves with where they’ll get the energy to charge their EVs?

        Can’t get if from fossil fuels as that is folly… it costs more to generate the electricity from fossil fuels than avoiding EVs and staying with the ICE.

        Global ignorance that accepts “greenhouse warming theory” as if it weren’t junk science is creating a crisis of unfathomable consequences.

        Stupid is as stupid does… comes to mind.

      • Mike Cross permalink
        September 26, 2023 10:18 pm

        I fear that this will be the beginning of the end for Nissan because British people in general cannot, and will not be to in the future, afford electric vehicles apart from lawnmowers.

      • saighdear permalink
        September 26, 2023 10:41 pm

        … and if these Manufacturers then go Bust, what then, who picks up the Tab(s) ? ….. the populace again?

      • Chris Phillips permalink
        September 27, 2023 8:45 am

        I’m sure China will be happy to supply ICE cars to the UK market if there is a demand for them, which I’m sure there will be.

      • Dave Andrews permalink
        September 27, 2023 5:01 pm

        Well the end of 2022 there were still less than 20m EVs worldwide according to the IEA. There are over 1.4bn ICEVs. Long time before EVs replace them!

      • gezza1298 permalink
        September 27, 2023 8:17 pm

        I wonder how long Nissan’s owners will tolerate cratering sales.

    • Realist permalink
      September 26, 2023 7:51 pm

      Perhaps the manufacturers will be more disappointed by having zero sales of new cars. Customers don’t want the less practical electric ones and won’t be able to afford the proper cars with diesel and petrol engines.
      The crazy thing is the manufacturers could have stopped this madness by closing factories and making sure the unemployed knew why instead of letting themselves be browbeaten into making products that customers do not want.
      >>They’re going to be disappointed when 2030 arrives

    • glen cullen permalink
      September 26, 2023 10:25 pm

      Wouldn’t it be nice if our government did what the majority of voters wanted !

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        September 27, 2023 8:38 am

        Which is why markets are far more democratic than governments. If we all want Net Zero we can all chose EVs and heat pumps. But governments are no longer interested in what the electorate wants but in what they want. Because they know better what we should want.

  5. Bob Webster permalink
    September 26, 2023 9:16 pm

    It is utterly insane that fossil fuels are being abandoned when they do NOT have any impact on global climate and are inexpensive and have well-understood technologies for efficient use.

    Neither CO2 nor CH4 have ANY impact on climate change… it is completely normal.

    • lordelate permalink
      September 26, 2023 9:41 pm

      correct.

    • September 26, 2023 10:53 pm

      Agreed but manmade CO2’s impact on climate has been found to be too small to be measurable, evidently not zero.
      The reasons are its minimal concentration in air, molecular properties and saturation by infrared.because of its very limited capacity.
      The ratio of water to CO2 molecules is al least 30:1

  6. lordelate permalink
    September 26, 2023 9:42 pm

    The whole sh*t show is like the Emperors new clothes but larger.

  7. saighdear permalink
    September 26, 2023 10:07 pm

    huh, It’s not just the anxiety over RANGE, it’s the simple fact about how you recover your vehicle when the battery goes flat: Anyone got spare 20 to 40 miles worth of fuel for them in their Boot ( ie a Jerrycan ). Rural Life does NOT lend itself to EVs period.
    Only CARS to be affected: so not Commercials? when is a Pickup a ” Car” or a Commercial ?

    • glen cullen permalink
      September 26, 2023 10:28 pm

      Its about choice and the lack of choice
      The ban is against the consumer choice

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        September 27, 2023 8:42 am

        As are all the other bans and taxes, whether it’s minimum alcohol pricing, sugar taxes, cigarettes, salt, BOGOFs and all the rest. But most people want some things banned, so it’s easy to get a majority in favour each time. And then one day its the thing you want to keep doing that’s being banned, and then it’s too late.

    • Roy Hartwell permalink
      September 27, 2023 10:15 am

      Recent incident on the A36 in Wiltshire bears this out. The main road was blocked for hours when a Tesla ran out of power halfway through a right-turn. It couldn’t be pushed out of the way and had to wait for a lift recovery then spent several hours in the adjacent pub carpark charging before it could move!

      • saighdear permalink
        September 27, 2023 10:30 am

        Now THAT would have been a story for the Media.
        Was it being driven by someone, silver haired and over 70, perhaps? ( as part of campaign to get rid of older ,motorists )

      • Gamecock permalink
        September 27, 2023 10:43 am

        “It couldn’t be pushed out of the way”

        Betcha.

      • Gamecock permalink
        September 27, 2023 10:44 am

        “A number of local workmen along with the policeman attempted to push the car to safety, however despite their best efforts they could not move it.”

        No tow trucks in England?

      • Roy Hartwell permalink
        September 27, 2023 10:49 am

        Most towtrucks in the UK are designed as flatbeds and the cars are winched onto them, especially in rural areas! Lift trucks are usually only found in major cities ready for parking violations.

      • saighdear permalink
        September 27, 2023 5:47 pm

        I’m sure there’d be an enthusiastic Farmer or Builder. ( disgruntled in many ways, more likely: – but then there’s disgruntled and Really REALLY P***’d off with the Voting society aka Government & Local Koonsils and so won’t want to let them off the hoook – I can’t blame them either )

  8. dickiegood permalink
    September 27, 2023 6:02 am

    Electric vehicles (BEV) will have virtually no secondhand value after just a couple of years as there can be no guarantee of battery condition when sold on and BEV lovers (Joe Public may have no choice by then) will always opt for new. So this will lead to a massive glut of unwanted vehicles with motor dealers and many more BEV will need to be manufactured to meet demand. How is any of this Green?

    • gezza1298 permalink
      September 27, 2023 8:23 pm

      Where are the materials coming from to make them in the first place?

    • Joel Hammer permalink
      October 2, 2023 7:22 am

      I suspect that the dealers will have to offer some kind of warranty on the battery if they want people to buy used EV’s.

  9. David permalink
    September 27, 2023 10:16 am

    Could be a good business for someone, putting petrol engines into redundant leccy bodies.

    • saighdear permalink
      September 27, 2023 10:33 am

      Emm, once upon a time, yes. but in the future , where are you going to source decent petrol or diesel engines? ever done that? – we have and the PAIN of electronics and emissions stuff.

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