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Ben Marlow’s Readers Know More Than Him

September 28, 2023

By Paul Homewood

As usual, the commenters make a lot mor economic sense the Mr Marlow!

 

 

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20 Comments
  1. BLACK PEARL permalink
    September 28, 2023 8:00 pm

    Class comments for sure there 🙂

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      September 28, 2023 9:21 pm

      Agreed. 🙄

  2. September 28, 2023 9:24 pm

    Winding up DT readers on energy/climate must qualify him for work at the Guardian?

  3. Thomas Carr permalink
    September 28, 2023 9:33 pm

    If you want to point a finger it should be towards the editor of the DT and if the proprietors have hold over the policy with Marlow speaking for them that would be the answer

  4. September 29, 2023 6:48 am

    You should show some of the “most liked” comments, such as these:

    “Ben Marlow completely misses the point, Oil and Gas make money for the Country whereas Wind and Solar cost the country.
    I presume Ben is also happy that we import oil and gas as long as we don’t use our own resources.
    Another point he misses is that the much vaunted windfall tax has failed. Investment has collapsed in the North Sea and many jobs have been lost just because our hopeless politicians have had to deal with reality and not the pie in the sky dogma of Net Zero.
    Rose Bank is one of the more sane decisions by this Government.”

    “I’ll be quite honest – I do not buy this newspaper to read garbage like this.
    The facts are that Net Zero is utter madness, the U.K. needs the revenue and we still need oil.
    When my subs come up I’m afraid I’m out.”

    • GeoffB permalink
      September 29, 2023 9:43 am

      I cancelled my telegraph subscription, mainly because it went up so much, just switch “java script” off. (click the little padlock next to the site address) and you can read the articles, although embedded charts and pictures do not appear unless you click the header. You cannot comment or see comments. An Adblocker helps. The article is really crap as well.

  5. September 29, 2023 9:48 am

    What is concerning about the DT is it is currently up for sale by Lloyds bank who effectively currently own it. Who knows who is likely to purchase it and whether that will see a major change (most probably towards ‘The Mainstream!’ which means people like Charles Moore will no longer have the voice of sanity!!

    • saighdear permalink
      September 29, 2023 10:35 am

      Well I never! .. I don’t normally look to find out who owns what before I buy or read something, but a Bank owns the DT. Hmm, ethical purchasing, ethical reading as in to believe what you are reading …. But if you think too much , you get nothing done, says Gramps. Well that’s true enough too and being Pragmatic on the farm or in the Workshop, If a job’s got to be done, we’ll do it … humm, but not like Boris style.
      Now, in Business, how many of what exactly , does the Bank “own” ? Years ago, ‘the bank’ owned many farms. … and then some got sold. like Industrial companies as well. No stranger in the UK then, eh?

      • 186no permalink
        September 29, 2023 10:55 am

        The DT’s Editorial path through the last 4 years has been a “long and winding road. There have been many indications of flip flop, a sceptical approach but then not, a “sticking of the head above the parapet” and then a very rapid dive back below the sandbags…

        They steadfastly refuse to fully report the other side of the AWG/CC debate – but then report Sunak’s alleged roll back of Net Zero…..I don’t know if this is editorial manipulation by “others”, sub editors with different “views” and no oversight. I don’t particularly care; they have “form” for this type of inconsistency with their pusillanimous approach to SARS COV2/CV but maybe it is the overreach of OFCOM that they bow down to most?

        I still buy it for the Crossword and readers letters – I also feel the need to follow the direction the enemy is taking , just like I do with baiting the BBC about their HYS rubbish…

      • dave permalink
        September 30, 2023 9:10 am

        “Ground News” has a lot of interesting information about the ultimate “whosoever” that is manipulating “your” news.

        But, actually, it is easy enough to spot bias and/or gaslighting, without digging down too far. Clickbait is an immediate giveaway. Certain words or sneering asides are routine, and almost required, “boiler-plate;” certain “triumphal” arguments are transparently cut-and-paste; there are incessant irrelevancies and constant verbosity.

        You feel like a bad door-to-door salesman has his foot in your door!

  6. Jack Broughton permalink
    September 29, 2023 11:48 am

    According to Renewable Energy World, proposals for carbon reduction from many states have been received under the IRA. The cost of these is said to be $ 93 billion and the savings, which are CO2 only, (no other benefit to the taxpayer) are 127 m tpa CO2. Assuming a 20 year life this gives a saving of 2.5 Gt CO2 while the worlds annual emissions are increasing at 4 Gt/y and the USA would emit 200 Gt over the 20 year period at present rate. The IRA, apart from being a dreadful name, amounts to the squandering of the American dream for everyone but the troughers. This could also be regarded as a charge of $40 / tonne CO2. Sadly, CO2-madness is continuing.

    • glen cullen permalink
      September 29, 2023 6:38 pm

      And the media forget why we’re doing this CO2 thing ….Because the sea level might rise if the global temperature increases by 1.5 degree – according to the UN IPCC

  7. It doesn't add up... permalink
    September 29, 2023 8:27 pm

    The latest Moray East wind farm accounts are out:

    https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/07101438/filing-history

    Interesting picking them over as they mull the consequences of windfall tax, and continued deferral of commencement of their CFD, etc.

  8. September 30, 2023 9:13 am

    I am increasingly of the view, that the one thing that desperately needs changing is the technological competence of not just MPs, but the journalists who so eagerly and gullibly swallow the BIG TECH bs on everything from climate to covid.

    • 186no permalink
      September 30, 2023 9:41 am

      SS, if I may say so, your conclusion infers that journalists but especially MPs are somehow behind the eight ball in terms of in depth knowledge – whilst I accept that per se, it also infers that “lack” is innocently derived. With respect, that may be so with some of those cadres but I suspect the vast majority are entirely bought by either Big Pharma, Big Tech, UK/US Intelligence apparatuses, the 77Th Brigade, GCHQ, and such bodies as the Dowden chaired Counter-Disinformation Unit as well as the Woke OFCOM apparatchiks.

      OT but I am not prone to conspiracy theories – some conclusions I draw have taken several years to form. I offer as evidence this – I do not support Laurence Fox’s comments about Ms Evans, but if you try and see/read what she said initially, good luck with that; the internet search is awash with reports trashing Fox, but nothing, nix, rien about Ms Evan’s initial comments, words from which Fox repeated back at her. A complete stitch up which now threatens to torpedo GB News ( and the internal conflicts hinted at for some time are now 100% in plain sight ) and it is inescapable that MSM has colluded with this as with CV/AWG/CC as you state.

      My MP is Neil O’Brien – he is a perfect example of an eager repeater of BT BS from AWG/CC to CV – imho he is performing to orders, very deliberately. This is his latest response to me submitting a question about the Energy Bill he supported – it parrots UK Govt BS and I have numerous examples of similar anodyne, gaslighting responses he has made to many articles about the true aspects of SARS COV2/CV: he is Oxbridge PPE, not thick – why on this earth does he think people cannot see straight through his motives, none of which appear benevolent?

      Dear XXXXXX,

      Thank you for contacting me about the Energy Bill.

      As you may be aware, the aim of the Bill is to help increase the resilience and reliability of energy systems across the UK, support the delivery of the UK’s climate change commitments and reform the UK’s energy system while minimising costs to consumers and protecting them from unfair pricing. To enable this, the Bill is structured around three key pillars: liberating investment in clean technologies, reforming the UK’s energy system so it is fit for the future, and maintain the safety, security and resilience of the UK’s energy system.

      More specifically, the Bill includes provisions to ensure market frameworks and governance arrangements are geared towards strengthening energy security and becoming a net zero energy system while minimising costs to consumers. This includes reforming the current energy code governance framework including granting Ofgem new functions to provide strategic direction and oversight on codes and creating a new class of more independent code managers to deliver an improved system for consumers and competition.

      I understand that the Government has carefully considered concerns raised regarding the hydrogen levy provisions during passage of the Energy Bill. The Government’s amendments to the Bill remove provisions that enabled the levy to be imposed on energy suppliers in Great Britain, ensuring that within Great Britain the levy can be placed only on gas shippers.

      The revised provisions will provide a fairer approach to funding hydrogen, placing the charge higher up the supply chain, with the potential for costs to be spread to the sectors expected to benefit most from early hydrogen development, not the wider British public. By providing two robust and reliable options for hydrogen funding, the Government will help bolster industry confidence in the viability of the UK hydrogen economy and boost private investment, with the potential to unlock significant energy security and economic benefits. The hydrogen sector could support over 12,000 jobs and generate up to £11 billion in private investment by 2030.

      Moreover, you will be reassured to know that the Government has recently published a five-point plan to tackle bad behaviour by energy suppliers. The Government is calling for suppliers to voluntarily stop the practice of forced prepayment switching as the answer to households struggling to pay bills and make greater effort to help the most vulnerable. Further, it is requesting the release of supplier data on the number of warrant applications they have made to forcibly enter homes to install meters.

      Finally, the Bill includes new clauses which will give the Secretary of State the power to make changes to the existing Energy Performance of Buildings regime to ensure that it is fit for purpose and reflects the UK’s ambitions on climate change, including to support achieving the UK’s target for net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. The future Energy Performance of Premises framework will need to play an increasingly important role if the UK is to achieve this goal. Energy certificates provide consumers, building owners and occupiers, and third parties with information on the energy performance of the premises stock and support effective decision-making on improving the energy efficiency of premises.

      Thank you again for taking the time to contact me.

      Best wishes,

      Neil

      Neil O’Brien OBE MP
      House of Commons
      London SW1A 0AA

  9. saighdear permalink
    September 30, 2023 1:11 pm

    Reply in tone and content kind of says it all: yes it does:- eg ‘ towards strengthening energy security’ .. Och bla blah ba bye bye … fed up reading it … all sounds the same. Is it me or is it …. is it just this era in time whereby we are being run by idiots.. Who ever built this ski run – slippery slope?
    So why do we even bothering to WRITE to our leaders? THey should be summarily dismissed.
    Talk about the VACUUM after Iraq and look at Libya, what we have here is little better in some ways. Terrorism? certainly the Children of the UK seem to experience it whilst we stand by and WITNESS it – could be construed as ENCOURAGING it all by our inaction and In-fighting, allowing the MSM to keep moving Goalpost s of discussion….’Oh look at this , Oh look at that …See what So&So is doing …’ is what we here on the Street all the time. blame Putin, Blame China, Blame ourselves ? Maybe – but if you do something, you are almost always bound to be wrong. Writing here comes free ( Lunchtime break).

  10. energywise permalink
    September 30, 2023 2:39 pm

    I demand all nut zero peddling, climate alarmist hysteric, CO2 haters are immediately banned from any fossil fuel usage or any commodities produced by or via them – within 36 hours, they will regain common sense and decency

    • glen cullen permalink
      September 30, 2023 4:55 pm

      Thats our whole government

  11. Gamecock permalink
    September 30, 2023 4:04 pm

    Ben Marlow’s Readers Know More Than He

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