Storm Agnes
By Paul Homewood
Storm Agnes is yet another one that failed to live up to the hyperbole beforehand, with the media publishing all sorts of bloodcurdling nonsense, fanned by the Met Office warnings. The Express, for instance:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1816375/storm-agnes-live-warning-met-office-forecast
The media, of course, loves all of this, because it attracts readers’ attention, but you cannot blame them when the Met Office has been equally guilty of fanning the flames:
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us/press-office/news/weather-and-climate/2023/autumnal-weather
As usual, the Met Office found its 80 mph gust, this time at Capel Curig, half way up a mountain in Snowdonia:
Capel Curig is only a few miles from Conwy on the coast. There sustained winds were only a breezy 14 mph:
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/@2652426/historic
At nearby Rhyl, the Met Office could only find maximum gusts of 34 kts, (39 mph):
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/observations/gcmr0gu3s
Once again, the Met Office prefers spin to responsible weather forecasting.
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
Congratulations on making it to September before having a named storm.
Here in America, they give zephyrs names. We have had a very quiet hurricane season*, yet they are already up to Philippe.
*Early season predictions of catastrophic season because of “hottest ocean evah” came to nothing, as Gamecock predicted (tropical North Atlantic is hot enough to support hurricanes every year; ocean temp is not a limiting factor on hurricanes)
There’s a reason for storm naming, you might find this interesting:
“When a Storm Gets Its Name, Your Insurance Takes a Hit”
https://www.risk-strategies.com/blog/when-a-storm-gets-its-name-your-insurance-takes-a-hit
The corollary to that is if you experience severe weather and it causes damage to your property, in whatever form, one tried and tested claims management strategy of insurance companies is to confirm with the “weather authorities” that a storm occurred in your area “officially”; if it was you may be insured…if it was not you may have a monumental fight on your hands.
The devil, as ever, is not only in the “small print”, but 100% subject to how the Insurance company interpret that small print …….don’t get me started…
As always, the insurers look after themselves and their shareholders first and their policy holders (aka customers) last.
In the UK most storms occur in winter so they start on a new list of names on 1st September each year. Last ‘year’, Sept 2022-Aug 2023, we had 2 named storms, both in August this year meaning it was very unusual to have no named storms over winter.
The headlines should of been:-
WARNING!! Storm Agnes upgraded to typical autumn/winter conditions in the Welsh mountains.
Thx for clarification.
Sorry about this being off topic , but news just out showing cost of NET ZERO .They are finally admitting that it will cost every family an extra £6000 plus per year , or over £150,000 up to 2050 .
And if they admit that , you can be sure it will be a lot more .
A report from Civitas which says if it was all scrapped all families could have free food and £2800 a year to spend until 2050. Worthy of a full post.
Are those costs in GBP or HS2P?
So-called “Storm Agnes” – a perfectly normal spell of autumnal weather here high up in the Northern English Lake District. Hardly noticed. In fact the only small tree that came down recently was a few days ago before this depression.
We have had mounting hysteria here in the South West for the last 5 days. Complete non event where I live in Devon. The local news showed its reporters trying to talk up the very moderate waves that could be seen in the background shots. One reporters hair barely moved in the gentle breeze
Same in East Devon
Aye, indeed: Great thing this digital TV lark: can see weather reports in other parts of the country. Scotland ( up here) was consistently INCONSISTENT and at odds with the National forecasts – Howzat? Am I living in a time warp? So we took precautions and cancelled jobs that were to be done in areas of high risk of flooding and battened down the hatches ( shed doors) ,,,,, ….. but nothing happened. Warmer night than the day but with windchill, Some Rain BIG drops from high loud. Mammus cloud for a while then clear spells .Black skies with a Sun peeping through. Great for photography – that’s about all.
Coffee-break viewing of various UK / Welsh & Scot’s webcams like watching paint dry. https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/united-kingdom/wales.html
Even the illegal migrant delivery service – some know them as the RNLI – got in on the nannying by warning people not to go near the sea.
These exaggerated BBC storm claims are no laughing matter, we rescheduled a planned outdoor event in Colwyn Bay due to their forecast ….and nothing happened, it was just like any other end of September day
You could try suing them for the costs incurred. You probably won’t win but the publicity might be worthwhile.
Forcing them to defend their ongoing scaremongering forecasts might at least be good for a giggle!
@glen cullen
Ditch the BBC, use Ventusky instead.
Capel Curig is at T junction of 2 wide valleys. Naturally this is going to affect the wind currents. It is also at 653 ft above sea level so is well in to the mountains. I would suggest that an 80mph gust is no big deal there. That gust could have lasted a couple of seconds only.
It’s a bit like saying the wettest place in England is the middle of Lake Wimdermere. ‘Mountain tops windier than valleys’ shock!!
Capel Curig gets gusts of 40mph on a mild summer’s day ….Its just geography,
a bit like putting a thermostat next to a 747 aeroplane engine on a hot runway made of concrete
‘Danger to life’, eh? Here in central Wales it was just another benign, dreary, VERY slow day! In the new drakeford inspired slow-down, drivers caught snoozing at the wheel. The left-wing national ‘utopia’ was boring beyond words.
@edwardrodolph1891
Have you voted yet?
https://petitions.senedd.wales/petitions/245548
Looks like Wednesday night was the peak at Capel Curig. Around 50mph tops. Not unusual at all but windy all the same.
https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/@7299983/historic
You’re maybe a bit harsh on the MO. They’ve always erred on the disastrous side ever since Michael Fish and the 1987 Hurricane. He was right and it wasn’t a hurricane of course, it was just a bit worse than he thought. It’s a fact that if you forecast a bad storm and it’s only a storm the public and press don’t mind. But you forecast a bit of wind and it turns out to be a storm, you get pilloried. It’s more about civil servants covering their backs in cases like these. Of course in other areas the Met Office is fully signed up to climate hysteria.
More about? … vested interests, even maybe perhaps: https://joannenova.com.au/2023/09/the-european-rebellion-against-the-sacred-quest-for-netzero-spreads-green-investors-are-reeling/
or even this one : https://joannenova.com.au/2023/09/giant-australian-retirement-funds-are-being-corporate-climate-bullies-with-your-money/
I’m surprised I wasn’t inundated with messages from Northern Powergrid, who haven’t recovered from the slating they got for the 5 day power outage in November 2021. If we’d have been on heat pumps it would not have been good. My lithium battery via an inverter will run the oil boiler pump and control unit.
National Grid estimated the cost of net zero at £3 trillion in 2020, £110,000 a family. I’m not surprised it’s gone up to £150,000. What they don’t mention is that the storage we will need for at least 19,000 gigawatt hours to cover a dunkelflaute will cost at least as much again.
It got a bit breezy in Devon. Despite all the alarmist language ( weather bombs anyone?) nothing alarming happened. Unlike the recent localised flooding that hit Devon and Somerset which wasn’t predicted.
Same in my part of Devon. Breezy and no rain, just a pleasant autumn day.
At least they got it right for Tramore and Youghal in Co. Cork
Only slightly O/T but from that first image above “Charlwood” is showing 23.1°C
“Charlwood” would be better described as “just off the end of the Gatwick runway”. It ranks as garbage standard WMO Class 5 (in)accurate to more than 2°C. even without the aircraft exhausts, and the buildings, and the car parks, and the air con exhausts etc, etc,
Here it is on google maps – zoom out for a more interesting view of the “small”
landing strip.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/51°08'38.0“N+0°13’46.0″W/@51.1441724,-0.2297944,104m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m4!3m3!8m2!3d51.1438889!4d-0.2294444?entry=ttu
Here is how Tim Channon described it
There are some illuminating extra photos in the comments.
Yet more high quality from the Met Office.
In the U.K. we now have a “ Storm Season” according to ITV weather. Most people still talk in quaint terms, such as, autumn, winter etc.
I see that the Moronic Office are using even more bold colours to emphasise their exaggerated lies!
its about time they put EVERYTHING in red and splashed exclamation marks across the maps. We could then have Corporal Jones shouting over the top of the Forecast “Don’t panic! Don’t Panic!”
It was bad. My dog was very scared by the noise of acorns falling on top of the van. We had to move from under the tree just after midnight.
@Jaime Jessop
Maybe it was just the squirrels having a midnight feast?
Falling acorns were, of course, the met orifice’s ‘danger to life’ big worry’. How many excess deaths were there? Khant, for example, would use any number, say 40,000, snatched from a passing moonbat cloud, to terrrify the population and impose some new multi £million’ fund raising scam. It’s an ‘ill-wind’ eh?
So the Met Orifice thinks equinoctial gales are caused by AGW now, does it?
@catweazle666
Equinoxes?
You will probably like this:
Seasonal and diurnal variations of Kelvin-Helmholtz Instability at terrestrial magnetopause