Thousands of Students at Warwick Uni “Forced to Go Vegan”
By Paul Homewood
h/t Willie Soon.
Maybe the vast majority of sensible students will finally wake up to the idiot fringe, who are making them all look idiots.
I would suggest a Bacon Sandwichathon, where they all bring bacon sandwiches into the canteen, and eat them in front of the sad little morons who think it’s a good idea to order other people what to eat!
Thousands of students at one of Britain’s top universities will be forced to ‘go vegan’ after activists won a vote banning meat and dairy products.
Students at the University of Warwick backed a motion forcing union-run catering outlets to adopt plant-based menus, with three now required to do so by 2027.
But the move, pushed through by campaign group ‘Plant-Based Universities’, has ignited fury after it emerged that just 774 students – about 2.7 per cent of 28,600-strong campus – were behind the plan, while 516 voted against it.
Vivek Venkatram, Plant-Based Universities Warwick campaigner and president of Warwick’s Vegetarian and Vegan Society championed the vote and said: ‘We want this change to benefit everyone.’
However, the Countryside Alliance condemned the decision backed by a ‘tiny minority’ and said the vote raised questions about whether the sweeping change was ‘made with the interests of the wider student population in mind’.
Vivek Venkatram (pictured), Plant-Based Universities Warwick campaigner and president of Warwick’s Vegetarian and Vegan Society championed the decision
‘Students shouldn’t let such a small cohort get away with isolating the wider student population. Vegan campaigners are welcome to present their arguments in favour of plant-based diets, but should not impose a diet in university-affiliated buildings,’ said alliance spokeswoman Sabina Roberts.
‘Students should take on their democratic duty and place forward a counter-motion that keeps meat on the menu.’
The move was also condemned on social media, with one person tweeting: ‘Will this nonsense ever stop? The vocal minority at it again.’
While another added: ‘Veganism is as extreme as all extremist religious movements. It’s either their way or no way. I feel sorry for the kids.’
Warwick’s students’ union is the eighth in the UK to vote through a motion to ditch meat and dairy, as part of a campaign pushing for more sustainable catering in higher education.
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
Woke, sad, Sheeples…..
What Warwick is saying is that only vegan students will in future be admitted to the University. They will deny this but that is the outcome of this decision. You will only be provided with vegan food on campus. If you are not prepared to accept that there is no point in applying because 3% of the student body has decreed this. And we don’t have guts to stand up them.
Warwick has a relatively isolated campus which makes life tough for those who live on site. However, many students chose to live off campus and drive in. A relative was in a shared house in Leamington where they did things like buy half a carcass to put in the freezer to provide a good stock of meals. A six burner, two oven stove got a lot of use, and several of them contributed to the cooking. Driving in is of course another insult to the greenies. Only thing is you need a designated driver or a floor onsite following a good night in the student bar.
there must be a Mc Donalds near by surely
There may well be soon if there isn’t already
“I would suggest a Bacon Sandwichathon, where they all bring bacon sandwiches into the canteen, and eat them in front of the sad little morons who think it’s a good idea to order other people what to eat!”
I loved this comment in the text. Instantly, I was returned to June 15, 2015 on the field of Runnymede as a descendant of Surety Barons, Sir Roger Bigod and his son Sir Hugh Bigod. 107 of us from The National Society of Magna Charta Dames & Barons arrived very early by bus for the 800th anniversary. We had a carton of juice and a slab of sawdust on the bus. BUT there were wonderful little medieval tents set up which had coffee, pastries AND bacon sandwiches. That sandwich was soooo good.
BTW, my thumbnail picture is from the previous day when our goup was invited to attend the unveiling of the statue of Queen Elizabeth II on the Runnymede Pleasure Grounds along the Thames and the marvelous luncheon following.
A Students Union vote is binding only on the Students Union restaurant if they have one. All the University restaurants will, naturally, ignore it. When the Students Union restaurant goes broke, the Union will have to reverse the decision if they can. If they can’t, then the restaurant will close. Simples.
As supermarkets have now found, people don’t have money to waste on expensive pretend meat products so a simple boycott of the Union run premises by normal students is likely. The added advantage is you will be avoiding vegan nutters.
As Hamish Mc Dougall rightly
oops, hit the wrong button! As Hamish says this only applies to the Student Union nowhere else. They’ll soon wise up or go bust (if that’s possible) then one day they will all grow up.
“…then one day they will all grow up.”
No, that is no longer the way it works. In the modern, decadent, Western World, youngsters double down on the emotional and violent prejudices they receive, early-on, from their peer groups,* continue to hold indefinitely to their hate-fuelled patterns, habitually and mindlessly bully other people at every turn, and never grow into maturity.
There has always been a particular aspect of the Western World, based on the Indo-European strand in its heritage, that makes things nastier. That is, an extra-ordinary degree of inter-generational conflict. Our young define themselves as the new in-group, by automatically rejecting their parents’ attitudes.
Thus, there is a weird circularity of what is fashionable opinion
and prejudice over the decades. Common sense rarely comes into it.
* There is an interesting article by a young man, in the 25th November Spectator. According to him, even the propaganda on the internet of deliberate influencers and paid-up shills, which we rail against here, is completely out-of-date. Teenagers just make things up, almost at random, in things like Tik-Tok; and some of the fantastic claims appeal to the masses, where upon these collective and cooperative notions become their reality.
An enforced reality:
” ‘If you are not pro-Palestine’ declares a girl on Tik-Tok, who is about my age, ‘we’re not friends. If you’re neutral right now, we’re
not friends. If you’re too uneducated to have an opinion, we’re not friends.'”
Mr Vankatram.
An archetypal weed. And if only 3% of students can be bothered to vote, let him make everyone eat what he allows. Serve ’em right.
But maybe a few might wonder if wasting three or four years of their lives, plus tens of thousands of pounds getting a degree that is basically a joke, was really a sensible plan.
Back when I had my “gap year” (1965/66) working in highway survey snd design, in order to have a bit of money behind me going to a decent University (Sheffield) to study Civil and Structural Engineering, knowing I’d have to work through every long vacation to earn a bit more money and give me some practical experience in Engineering, it was ‘elitist’, only 4% of kids went to University and with a lot of effort I could go on to a make a decent career.
Tony Blair did away with all that at a stroke by his 50% of kids going to “University” (jumped up tech colleges) with “Professors” who weren’t as bright as some of the lab technicians back in my day.
So here we are. If you don’t have rich parents or are extremely bright and self motivated, enjoy what Warwick serves up. Or be a plumber or electrician and earn serious money.
Could not agree more with you comment. In my day, 75-78 you had to work or you were out, and only about 5% went to University. Now universities are a business will little concern about standards; just getting the numbers to sign up to non-degrees to keep the cash rolling in to sustain the bandwagon.
Whemn I read some of the scinetific papers it is no surprise we have the mess that we are now in with climate change.
Thinking about my University experience, I was one of the “Thick Engineers” as considered by my peer groups in the Union bar, reading Politics, Sociology and such like, with typically an essay to write, one lecture to attend and maybe a tutorial. In a week.
My week comprised of being at lectures, or conducting laboratory trials, or in ‘our’ drawing office, working, typically from around 8:30 to 19:30 most days, often including Sunday if we had fallen behing with a design, or a report to write.
OK. The sporty types took Wednesday afternoons off.
In the sense that I could have studied politics and enjoyed more time in the bar, I suppose I was “thick”. But I still managed to participate in student’s social life, even attending odd interesting lectures in other faculties (e.g. Architecture) if they had a top rate invited lecturer.
From memory, we started off in First Year (Civil & Structural) with over 100 students, lost at least a quarter at the end of the first year and perhaps another 15% at the end of the second. About half of the remainder went onto the Honours course, including myself. I tell myself that, if I hadn’t gone down with German Measles on day two of the finals exams I might even have got a First rather than a 2.I. I wonder how many students today either pack it in or get rusticated?
And then I went on, in a responsible and fairly well paid job, working towards Chartered status, achieved in the first year I was eligible.
Now, the few Universities still offering Engineering degree courses are at least four years or five years duration.
None of this is intended to brag. My parents were teachers so not going to University wasn’t really an option for me. As they had divorced and found other partners, I didn’t even get the parental contribution to my grant, which made life interesting at times.
I still think I was very lucky to have had the opportunity and to have had the sense to try my best to take advantage of it.
Certainly I didn’t have time or occasion to wonder what a woman is.
Martin your description on university life is almost identical to mine (73/76 Hull). I had to work every summer (Steward on Cross Channel Ferries) and Christmas (Royal Mail Sorting Office) to get by even though I was lodging with my aunt and uncle. The week was a hard slog and very time pressured getting in enough lab hours (Materials Physics) as well as theory and endless calculations.
I was one of those sporty types (got in on a Rugby League sponsorship) and even turned out for York in a Yorkshire cup game so genuine free time to do nothing was almost non existent. Despite all this I have some wonderful memories and would not have missed it for the world.
Now, however, well lots of degree courses have no exams at all, basically turn up often enough and pay the fees and that’s it – here’s your certificate in how to know nothing and be able to do even less.
Sadly this is unfair on the real students but, as you highlight, those are probably no more than the single figures percentage now as it was back then. l.
That happens if you promote Universities to be real kindergartens. The only cloud in the sky is it is not yet free, but soon it will be, and worth every penny.
“…unfair on the real students….”
How does it work for the foreign students? Many Universities have courses that are filled almost entirely with foreigners. I do not know if these courses are providing genuine education. If they are not, the parents are wasting a lot of money buying ‘the British brand.’ I attended a graduation ceremony recently where the many families attending from abroad seemed satisfied.
Dave, even back in the 60s, there were a number of foreign students on my course. I particularly remember a Greek student and a Singapore Chinese student, because they were clever and attractive girls! Also a couple of (male) Iraqis, and several others. So far as I remember, all came from wealthy families, all but one, (I think) were successful and went back home. And, once graduated, many of the British students went off to (then) exotic overseas postings like 1969 Qatar, Iran, Hong Kong. A few years later, they would only consider those “with previous experience in the in Gulf” or wherever.
Today there are serious overseas students studying serious subjects in serious universiries and doing well. Either returning to their homeland or marrying British people and ‘becoming British’ here. Good luck to them. Then there are tens of thousands who come here to a Bliar ‘university’ or a myriad of ‘colleges’ which, for a payment, will register them for some kind of course where attendance, let alone any effort or even speaking English is pretty much optional. But once with some kind of dodgy ‘certificate’ enables them to import, great aunties, third cousins and all the rest to come and relax here. And if they don’t need to hide the perhaps grisly details of their previous existence. they can fly into the UK, no awkward questions and not needing RNLI to pick them up mid channel. Cheaper than rubber boats.
Looking to set up a burger van outside Warwick Uni gates. Seems a lot of demand is coming to street vendors. Students Union voted to go broke -so what. The customers will vote with their feet and wallets.
Can they vote to ban toilet paper?
Headline next week: Union-run catering outlets see clients decrease by 97%.
It’s a valuable lesson about not voting. Had the non-vegans voted in greater numbers this wouldn’t have happened
Absolutely glenartney. A good object lesson is there to be learnt. Do nothing and the bad guys do what they want.
Veganism unfairly penalises British livestock farmers and British butchers.
Consider also what would happen to existing stocks of cows, sheep, pigs, chickens, etc if everyone genuinely went vegan? How would we dispose of all the bodies?
Top University?? You must be joking. This is Warwick for god’s sake. A low grade primary school would be nearer the mark.
For most people, a primary school probably offers a more important education than a university.
Always been hopeless. Was back when I was a student at Oxford, 1969 to 72.
Warwick used to be rated 3rd in the country for maths, and had a fairly good reputation for engineering. No idea where it is now.
“We know what is best for you. Resistance is futile.”
Vivek wants vegan food, Mohammed wants Halal meat, Tom, Dick, Mary and Carol are too meek to complain and will take what they are given.
Classic Tyranny of the Majority. Why can’t the vegans have what they want and let the rest do the same? Why do it have to be all vegan?
Heard an interview on the radio year or so back, who had ended up putting a notice on her café window – “NO VEGAN MEALS”.
She had got so hassled by Vegans she had enough. As she said – were I to go to a Vegan restaurant and aske for a steak, what sort of reception would I get?
It’s the bloody preaching ….
Two sorts of people you never have to ask about themselves
1. Yorkshiremen (ps our Yorkie neighbour found this very funny. And true)
2. Vegans
One of my favourite cartoons …. people standing round a grave. Someone says “Anyone got anything to say”. Speech bubble from the side… “I’m a Vegan”
Bear Grylls went from Vegan to carnivore. Said his children got sick on Vegan shit. Acne went, colds stopped.
As an aside – “You can always tell a Yorkshireman…but only once.”
Ray Sanders born at home in Dansom Lane, Kingston upon Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire.
I don’t think that having vegan only restaurants would be great selling point for the university. Watch out Warwick.
Having watched a brief interview with the student in the article, I have to wonder what they are teaching at Warwick, as it certainly doesn’t cover accountability. They disregarded the CA objection as it is not a University organisation and disagreed with the contention that a vote that only had 3% of the electorate created a mandate for action. All blame was placed on those who didn’t vote. Can you imagine any kind of referendum that would be passed on a 3% turnout or 1.6% for the motion? Aside from the absurdity of such a motion in the first place, the claims such as approaching a climate tipping point, global boiling etc, still seem to gain a great deal of traction. Not good for what is supposed to be a centre of academic excellence.
” You will eat in accordance with my beliefs “
Go Vegan, get depressed
https://www.startpage.com/do/search?q=VEGAN+VEGETARIAN+DEPRESSION+ANXIETY&segment=startpage.brave
Go Vegan, harm your children
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3918945/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6743850/
Mind you, I would say that, I’m a carnivore.
Vegans should have a word with a farmer we have known for 15 years, who runs this wonderful farm shop
https://www.kimbersfarmshop.co.uk/
She’s got choice words for them
Faversham Town Council passed a motion mandating vegan food at council events. They allowed staff dairy milk in their tea and exempted visitors from our French twinned town. We enjoyed voting out the whole Conservative council but the various loonies we voted in have allowed us to repent at leisure.
I’m not 100% sure about today’s Conservatives, to be honest, but I think it’s still a fairly safe rule-of-thumb in most areas: if you want sensible local politicians then your best bet is to vote Tory.
The best hope is independents or residents representatives.
I think that’s true but the party system is very strong in UK even in local elections so it’s very hard to get anyone else voted in. A plague on both their houses is my cynical oldie’s view now I’m afraid. Our momentarily exciting revolution just got the other lot of usual suspects in plus assorted eco-loons to make things even worse.
‘Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.’
H.L. Mencken, A Little Book In C Major
Not really surprised at this – par for the course with student unions. Back in the early ‘70s our SU decided to call a strike and boycott all lectures. Most of us turned up for the mass meetings and then went to our lectures anyway. Asked my tutor for his thoughts and he just said that in a couple of years they would be walking down Whitehall wearing bowler’s. Mm perhaps that’s why the civil service seems to be such a mess.
Many years ago, at KCL, the actual working faculties, engineering, law, etc, tolerated the SU and their groupies in arty subjects so long as they didn’t bother us. Renaming halls after Mandela, etc.
However, diverting subsidy funds from essential student areas like beer festivals… no.
So we all took a hour of lectures (when the SU votes were held), duly docked, and kicked the useless sods out. For a while. Like Japanese knotweed, though…
Sad to say, King’s seems to have been lost too as I look at the protest media.
This was the action of the proprietors; it is what they wanted. The ‘vote’ was for show . . . to cover their heinies, to give them plausible deniability.
They had no duty to put it up to a vote.
I wonder what would happen if the Union voted for non-vegam menus…..
‘pushing for more sustainable catering’
From a top university.
‘More sustainable’ is like “more dead” or “more pregnant.”
As a botanist, I have this to say:
“What did that plant ever do to you??”
As a biologist, I noted decades ago that beans and corn are every bit as alive as cattle. Moral veganism is speciesism, in this case with college kids choosing which species are more important.
We should close colleges and universities as the students know so much more than everyone else. They have rendered them superfluous…..many problems solved.
“Kids, move out while you still know everything.” — anon
Earlier today I read the linkedin bio of Vivek Venkatram – “I want to create social impact through my future career: In particular, I would like to explore solutions to make our global food systems more ethical and equitable.” Clearly he forgot to add that he is a wannabe world dictator as well.
I also, today, helped my son’s band’s guitar player (a no nonsense sparkie) through some chord sequences for an old favourite of mine from Alice Cooper. This returned a lot of my faith in most real world young people. So as my young friend commented “Vivek Venkatram can stick his veganism up his arsehole”
And it’s no more Mr Nice Guy from me as well.
Low grade diet for low grade students. Seems fair enough.