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Government will hit target of 600,000 annual heat pump installations, insists minister

December 18, 2023

By Paul Homewood

h/t Ian Magness

 

They really do live in Cloud-Cuckoo Land, don’t they!

 

From the Telegraph today:

 

 

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/12/18/rishi-sunak-latest-news-heat-pumps-nhs-wes-streeting-live/#1702887814864

27 Comments
  1. December 18, 2023 11:14 am

    Form this nonsense, you would never know that Callanan has a degree in Electrical and Electronic Engineering.

    • gezza1298 permalink
      December 18, 2023 12:14 pm

      His only real job was working as a project engineer at Scottish & Newcastle Breweries during which time he became a councillor and on election as an MEP left the normal world in 1998. To show how discredited our honours system is, on failure to get re-elected in 2014 he was made a Lord to help dry his tears. He has been spouting his lies on GB News this morning claiming that importing gas and oil has pushed up energy prices – no mention of our total failure to exploit our own resources to the full thanks to the government – as opposed to the massive subsidies given out to wind and solar by his government.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      December 18, 2023 1:02 pm

      Right, because (i) engineers are really good at Economics and (ii) no engineer has ever made a mistake such that a bridge falls down, two parts of a bridge don’t meet in the middle, a spacecraft crashes into Mars, shuttles crash, channel tunnels are wildly overbudget, aircraft don’t fly as designed…

      • julianflood permalink
        December 18, 2023 3:39 pm

        You missed the big one…

        JF

  2. David V permalink
    December 18, 2023 11:15 am

    I talked briefly to my heating engineer recently – he was a young entrepreneurial plumber about 15 years ago and moved to servicing heating systems several years ago. He expects to keep working till at least 2035 and has no intention of dealing with heat pumps

  3. December 18, 2023 11:31 am

    A politician “being misleading” ? Who would have thought such a thing was possible in the UK ?

  4. Gamecock permalink
    December 18, 2023 11:47 am

    You know your government is to big when . . . you have an ‘energy efficiency minister.’

    • gezza1298 permalink
      December 18, 2023 12:46 pm

      Even stranger was having a Minister for Steel. How much looking at steel can you do in a day? Especially when the government’s policy has made energy so expensive that what little is left of our steel industry is uncompetitive and on the verge of collapse.

      • Gamecock permalink
        December 18, 2023 1:05 pm

        Probably a Minister Against Steel.

        I have a friend who was president of a steel company. He seemed to manage just fine without the “help” of a minister. Indeed, I’m sure he would have been outraged by such a person.

      • john cheshire permalink
        December 18, 2023 2:19 pm

        And now we have a minister for commonsense.
        What a to be alive. Bizarro world was only in comics when I was a lad, now we are living in it.
        The question is, though, how do we weed out all of these lunatics?

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      December 18, 2023 1:06 pm

      You know they have lost the plot when you have that. I want everyone to be so wildly wealthy and everything so cheap that “efficiency” doesn’t matter. Instead we have governments intent on turning into drab copies of the USSR where everything is so scarce and expensive we must worry about using as little of anything as possible.

      • Gamecock permalink
        December 18, 2023 1:12 pm

        Presidential debate, 1980.

        Jimmy Carter: “Only government can manage scarcity fairly.”

        Ronald Reagan: “Screw that! We’re America! We’ll just make more.”

  5. jeremy23846 permalink
    December 18, 2023 11:56 am

    I have had dealings with Lord Callanan via my MP, when I pointed out that EPCs were rubbish, yet people will not be able to sell their houses because of them. I had to explain to him why, when he denied it. Despite the kicking into touch of the Minimum Energy Performance of Buildings Bill, woke banks are now taking it upon themselves to refuse to lend on properties with poor EPC ratings. If you can’t get a mortgage on a house, you can’t buy it (except of course for the rich with their energy guzzling mansions).

  6. December 18, 2023 12:07 pm

    Quite bizarre what supposedly qualified politicians come out with. I recently had a gas boiler installed at one of my properties. In reality it was not “installed” it was simply a replacement of an older model. The plumber arrived at 8:00 a.m. had his lunch at 12:00 with me and then left job completed. A £700 boiler from Screwfix plus a “day’s” wages @£350 (Gas safe registered plumbers don’t come cheap!)
    Had he (inevitably plus another) been due to change that same installation to a heat pump with new hot water tank (where?) some enlarged radiators, replacing three 8mm microbore pipe runs, running new pipes to kitchen and bathroom plus fitting the heat pump and all other bits of tackle would probably have amounted to a week’s work and probably £25,000+. An easy half day versus a struggle for two to complete in 5 days in a two bed terrace.
    And yet this comedian thinks we can both afford and manage to fit 12,000 every week. I genuinely despair some times.

    • gezza1298 permalink
      December 18, 2023 12:22 pm

      More evidence of Dr North’s theory that when seemingly competent people are appointed to government jobs they have their brains erased first.

      • Nigel Sherratt permalink
        December 18, 2023 1:05 pm

        Alok Sharma has a BSc in Applied Physics with Electronics, he’s also a Chartered Accountant. That didn’t stop him blowing up Ferrybridge C power station and weeping at COP27 (for the death of his career with luck).

      • Nigel Sherratt permalink
        December 18, 2023 1:06 pm

        COP26, apologies, hard to tell them apart.

      • catweazle666 permalink
        December 18, 2023 8:26 pm

        It’s not just governments.
        Over my career I have sat on a number of committees and it has been an endless source of amazement to me why a group of otherwise intelligent, generally well educated sensible adults, when sitting on a committee appear to entirely lose their marbles.
        It’s a puzzle!

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      December 18, 2023 1:13 pm

      And crucially you would have paid all that and taken up all those inputs for something at best no better than a gas boiler. This is the very definition of wealth destruction. We use ten times as much labour to produce something a little worse. That is wealth destruction on a massive scale, as the cost demonstrates. Politicians seem to be unable to grasp this bit of basic Economics. Multiply this over 600,000 installations a year and you have 2x5x600000 man-days of destruction. That’s £2.1 billion/year at £350/day. Add in say £1,600 per year of amortisation of the capital cost and that’s another £1 billion. So consumers are losing over £3 billion/year because of the madness on heat pumps alone.

      • Gamecock permalink
        December 18, 2023 1:17 pm

        Dekulakization.

  7. It doesn't add up... permalink
    December 18, 2023 12:23 pm

    Surely it’s obvious. Under not zero (sic) a zero will be dropped from the target, which will be deemed to have been met.

    • Chris Phillips permalink
      December 18, 2023 1:42 pm

      I also thought, when then PM May, legislated for Net Zero as her swansong “contribution” to the UK, that our compliance with it would be fudged and fiddled with carbon credits and the like.
      But I had not reckoned with the climate zeolot politicians who leapt on this legislation and started setting all sorts of stupid targets for heat pumps, EVs and the like. I also hadn’t reckoned on them actually blowing up our coal fired power stations, assuming naively that, surely, they would prudently keep them as back up.
      I sadly underestimated the total stupidity of all our politicians.

  8. saighdear permalink
    December 18, 2023 12:25 pm

    Woke at the head of the Big Band, leading the parade, Heat pumps, eh? with not sufficient electricity to power them when you need them. I wish we could have got “Off-Peak” electric heating in our home to get cheap surplus: any surplus at all now ? Heat pumps = Energy pumps – can they create fish in the pond for the Heron? can they create wind for the WindNills ? NO! – of course not – they NEED Electricity to work ( or an IC Engine ? ) – No, Sorry we don’t do slave labour anymore – no donkeys pulling on the yoke around and round. ANd as for EVs? well if Europe can no longer build enough or, or or. ( Maybe like BT now – NOT going to foist VOIP onto pensioner’s telephone systems on today’s news ). Och time will tell. The Folks in Amazonia or Middle Asia won’t be bothered whether we have EVs or Heat pumps or not.

  9. W Flood permalink
    December 18, 2023 2:21 pm

    As a Glaswegian would say – Aye Ah wull, so Ah wull. To which his friend would say – Naw ye wullnae. Still Game has many examples.

  10. ancientpopeye permalink
    December 18, 2023 3:13 pm

    Where exactly is this La-La Land these people live in?

  11. hamishjmcdougall permalink
    December 18, 2023 5:30 pm

    It’s time to insist that the Palace of Westminster be heated by heat pump before they insist on the identical technology being used elsewhere.

  12. catweazle666 permalink
    December 18, 2023 8:30 pm

    Judging by the fiasco of the rollout of the almost infinitely simpler to install “smart meters”…

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