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Claire’s Zero Coal Pledge

January 4, 2024
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By Paul Homewood

 

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https://twitter.com/ClaireCoutinho/status/1730885523143524790

December 2023

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https://gridwatch.co.uk/

January 2024

45 Comments
  1. January 4, 2024 4:28 pm

    Tell us Claire how CO2 is some kind of poison and being reliant on EXPENSIVE IMPORTED energy fulfils the brief of ‘Energy Security’? Britain’s enemies are writing our energy policy.

    • January 4, 2024 4:31 pm

      Well she is a member of the Consertvative Environment Netwrok, so you wouldn’t expect her to support a sensible energy policy

      • Harry Passfield permalink
        January 4, 2024 4:57 pm

        Strong letter to my MP about that, Phillip.

    • energywise permalink
      January 4, 2024 5:05 pm

      It just shows how incompetent these Ministers are, in both energy and basic science

      • gezza1298 permalink
        January 4, 2024 6:46 pm

        She is just a silly little girl who didn’t get where she is due to talent but because Sushi is her mate. Sadly it is unlikely she will get kicked out as this it true blue ignorant moron territory. The previous idiot this seat was lumbered with was the black Remainer mate of Lord Call Me Dave who then answered his true calling as a LimpDumb and not been heard of since. The only plus is that in 2015 this was a seat where UKIP saw a big increase in their vote.

  2. GeoffB permalink
    January 4, 2024 4:31 pm

    SO NAIVE.

    having or showing a lack of experience, judgment, or information; credulous:
    She’s so naive she believes everything she reads.
    He has a very naive attitude toward politics.

    having or showing unaffected simplicity of nature or absence of artificiality; unsophisticated; ingenuous.

    What is the point, India, China, Far East are building coal stations as fast as possible.

    • Dave Andrews permalink
      January 4, 2024 5:25 pm

      According to the IEA the growth to 70% of world coal consumption in China, India, Indonesia, Vietnam and the Philippines in 2023, more than offset the big declines in the EU and US as well as the smaller declines in Korea, Japan, Canada and Australia. They expect China and India alone to be responsible for 70% of global coal consumption by 2026

      IEA ‘Coal 2023 Analysis and forecast to 2026’ (Dec 2023)

  3. January 4, 2024 4:34 pm

    Just popped over to X and reminded Claire of this “pledge” and how it has turned out.

    • Joe Public permalink
      January 4, 2024 8:20 pm

      She got quite a hammering on Twitter.

  4. georgeherraghty permalink
    January 4, 2024 4:51 pm

    Coutinho’s Zero Coal?
    She is Conveniently forgetting the 150 tons of coal required to make an onshore turbine, the 250 tons of coal for an offshore turbine, the 1200 tons of concrete, for each turbine, carted uphill by smoke belching lorries and dumped permanently on our fragile, upland ecosystems and, of course, the bird slaughter continues with impunity.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      January 4, 2024 4:59 pm

      Ah…but that’s another country’s coal. 🤔

  5. Nordisch geo-climber permalink
    January 4, 2024 5:02 pm

    Without coal today and over the coming week, there would be power cuts.
    Naïve is not the word.

  6. energywise permalink
    January 4, 2024 5:03 pm

    Just another inept (ex investment banker) Energy Minister, with zero competence in energy, leading us into fuel poverty, power cuts, power rationing and useless net zero nightmares

    • Gamecock permalink
      January 4, 2024 10:12 pm

      It’s called “energy security.”

  7. sean2829 permalink
    January 4, 2024 5:03 pm

    Great example to note the reduction of coal use in the US and Norway. Both countries have very large reserves of natural gas. Norway and the US have cheap electricity. Norway generates most of its electricity from hydroelectric, the US from natural gas.
    I read recently that Norway will be exporting much more natural gas to Germany to make up for the loss of cheap Russian gas. I’m sure the UK will be tapping into Norway’s reserves since the UK seems reluctant to drill for its own helping to ensure that Norway gets a high price for its natural gas.

    • January 4, 2024 5:54 pm

      While paradoxically the Norwegian government is strangling the oil and gas industry with ever increasing BS carbon taxes and new dreamed up ways to force projects out of being economic. No better example of this exists than the shear asininity of electrification of platforms….. one consequence of this Olympic level of stupidity is the need to flare the gas used offshore to power the rigs! You cannot ever under estimate the level of asininity and “white man speaks with forked tongue” which walks the corridors of power where power and not running a country is the goal.

  8. January 4, 2024 5:04 pm

    USA ‘powering past coal’? Where to?

    U.S. LNG Growth Sparks Climate Activism Uproar
    Jan 03, 2024

    Last year, the United States became the world’s largest LNG exporter, dethroning Qatar and Australia.
    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/US-LNG-Growth-Sparks-Climate-Activism-Uproar.html

  9. Martin Brumby permalink
    January 4, 2024 5:29 pm

    Claire Coutinho
    His Majesty’s Secretary of State for Net Zero Energy Security. (sic.)

    What an absolute oxygen thief.

    Interesting that coal (all imported now, thanks to our Beloved Leaders) has been providing a steady GW of energy for most of today and almost every morning since for the beginning of last month.

    Where will that come from after Ratcliffe closes in September, little Claire? Wind, wallowing in obscene subsidies, producing a pitiful 3.2 GW. Solar, nothing. Belgium, Norway, France keeping our lights on (at huge cost to the UK.)

    Her Christmas message (24 Dec.); – “Thank you to everyone working over Christmas to keep the light on and make sure our turkeys can be cooked.”

    The first turkey that needs to be roasted is you, Ms. Coutinho.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      January 4, 2024 6:16 pm

      Martin, the question I would like CC to answer us: when did you come to the belief that closing coal generation and Net Zero was a vote-winning strategy?
      I wonder if her views are handed down from the WEF via the CEN?

      • Martin Brumby permalink
        January 4, 2024 7:36 pm

        If not directly from Klaus, surely from Lord Goldsmith and Stanley Johnson.
        Nice “Christmas Cards” from Dale Vince as a bonus.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      January 4, 2024 6:42 pm

      Christmas is actually the lowest demand day of the year, because almost everything is shut. We would be in deep trouble if we couldn’t handle that.

      • January 4, 2024 9:52 pm

        Don’t worry, some really bad people are working night and day on just that, aided and abetted by a legion of useful idiots.

  10. It doesn't add up... permalink
    January 4, 2024 5:41 pm

    Supposedly DESNZ think they can acquire at least 6.4GW of secure capacity in February for operation by the end of the year in the T-1 auction. Not sure where they think it will come from.

    • January 4, 2024 11:00 pm

      Are they claiming this will be 6.4GW of completely new dispatchable capacity commissioned by the end of this year?

      • It doesn't add up... permalink
        January 5, 2024 2:19 pm

        I think they allow any capacity not previously committed to a capacity market contract, suitably derated.

  11. January 4, 2024 5:48 pm

    Who briefs these people and what may I ask are their morals and political agenda?

    Does she not know that if CO2 is the problem then burning coal produces less CO2 than does burning wood and wood products per calorie of heat produced.

    The anti coal lobby is founded in myth and disinformation. A bit like the wariness of hydrogen which was brought about by it being used ahead of its technological moment in the Hindenberg. Technologies are available which allow for the clean burning of coal. My own thoughts are regarding the chemical value of coal as opposed to the burning of coal.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      January 4, 2024 6:19 pm

      I’d lay odds that CC believes that we can drill for hydrogen.

    • Gamecock permalink
      January 4, 2024 10:17 pm

      Coal ash disposal is still an issue.

      • January 4, 2024 11:07 pm

        Apparently the Italians used coal ash in with the gravel base for the 7,218 foot Boulder Clay Runway at their Zucchelli base….on Antarctica! You really couldn’t make it up.

      • Martin Brumby permalink
        January 4, 2024 11:17 pm

        Coal ash disposal is still an issue?

        Curious, as the amount to be disposed is now a rounding error compared to twenty five years ago.

        Back then, large quantities of fly ash from the coal power plants were used as additives in concrete manufacture, using its pozzolanic properties. So, using less portland or other cement, fly ash provided a more workable mix with significantly better resistance to various problems using conventional mixes. (Notably, heat of hydration induced cracking as concrete srts.) The use of the latter cement-sand-gravel mixes became largely restricted to particular high strength mixes for structural components like bridge beams that could be cast in moulds, properly cured and used for prestressed or post-tensioned units.
        Furnace bottom ash was another widely used concrete additive.
        For grades of fly ash that weren’t suitable for concrete production, the material was frequently and successfully used as engineering fill, often over a layer of compacted coarse minestone (from coal washing operations) and with the minestone used to form the outer banks. I could take you to many miles of major highways, especially in Yorkshire, constructed on embankments formed thus, or just on the compacted minestone.
        Another, more arcane but very profitable product derived from fly ash, were the cenospheres, which you can think of as tiny vitrious hollow spheres that floated in fly-ash ponds. These were skimmed off and graded and used in a variety of products including fillers in plastics, cosmetics, abrasives and even in the construction of rocket nose-cones. The top grade stuff was sold allegedly for over £10,000 per tonne, way back then.

        Don’t imagine GangGreen tells lies only about the big issues. They lie about everything. They probably can’t help themselves.

      • January 4, 2024 11:52 pm

        To Martin Brumby, thanks for the info. It probably explains why the Italians added it to the groundworks for the runway on Antarctica.
        There was me just making light of it above but it probably made perfect sense given the cold temperatures.

      • Gamecock permalink
        January 4, 2024 11:58 pm

        That’s nice, Martin, but in the US, it is still a problem.

      • January 5, 2024 7:52 am

        Really? Who says? The ash has many possible uses unlike the hydrocarbon consuming blades of their pointless bird killing windmills

  12. gezza1298 permalink
    January 4, 2024 6:56 pm

    Some of the imports might be coal power – I think the Netherlands one quite likely is. I don’t know if anyone else has heard this but some of the French power might also be coal as is it worth their while firing them up and earning some money from idiots who don’t have a functioning grid – take a bow UK and Germany.

  13. glenartney permalink
    January 4, 2024 7:06 pm

    Julia Hartley-Brewer in Climate Change “discussion”

    • glen cullen permalink
      January 4, 2024 7:48 pm

      Our MPs should be forced to watch this clip

  14. Joe Public permalink
    January 4, 2024 8:25 pm

    An Inconvenient Fact – Andy Lawton’s site shows coal was needed for half the hours of 2023.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      January 4, 2024 9:10 pm

      Coal generation early in the year was to some extent enabled by high gas prices that meant that coal was competitive. In the latter part of the year, falling UKA carbon prices meant that the penalty on running coal was much reduced, again allowing it to compete, despite the much lower gas prices.

      https://timera-energy.com/uk-carbon-allowances-diverged-from-europe-across-2023/

      That is, runs were driven mostly by better economics rather than grid constraints. The more continuous operation also helped coal efficiency, compared with warming up power stations on standby to act as reserve.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      January 5, 2024 2:25 pm

      The reality is consumer bills would have been much lower had we kept on our coal capacity in 2021 and run it as baseload.

  15. Gamecock permalink
    January 4, 2024 10:21 pm

    ‘That’s why it’s fantastic to have the USA, Norway and others join our Powering Past Coal Alliance today’

    I’ve heard nothing about it in the USA. I think it noise. Happy horseshit.

  16. Nicholas Lewis permalink
    January 9, 2024 5:12 pm

    1GW at 1700 and again our i/c friends aren’t being helpful so virtually every available CCGT on the system even with 11GW of wind. How on earth she thinks this will work if she decides to drive gas off the system as well it must NOT happen.

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