Bangladesh sees dramatic rise in lightning deaths linked to climate change-BBC
January 5, 2024
By Paul Homewood
The BBC have been lying again!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-67779223
Fortunately I don’t have to debunk it, because The Daily Sceptic has already done so here.
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
Fitt? Ach fer FS … soon too many idiots will be lit up by some bright Sparks ( of intelligence) ( now I don’t want to make fun of the sad / cruel events and it s impact on those families affected ). 16 at a wedding ie a single incident … should they have been outside / under a tree or other conductor … I dunno. but it can happen anywhere , where you are liable to have lightning storms. Gramps tells us that good ol’ thunderstorms with ball lightning haven’t been witnessed up here since the late 50’s. So it IS a generational thing – all this climate change nonsense: how it is perceived and acted upon by the Ohso woke illiterate leaders today.
The Hunga Tonga underwater volcano put ,[ NASA figures ], 150 billion litres of extra water into the atmosphere . So it is inevitable that there will be a lot of extra rain and thunderclouds around the world for a year or two .
But that will not get much mention in the media as they cannot claim human causes , or can they .
“But that will not get much mention in the media as they cannot claim human causes , or can they .”
Why not ?? People are very stupid & gullible believers.
A couple of weeks ago I was told by a retired teacher, that the atmosphere now contains 50% CO2, because of the amount of plastic in the seas .
& that the Icelandic volcano eruption was caused by … ‘climb it change’. !!!
150 billion litres might sound a big number but it is a miniscule addition to the atmospheric water vapour load of 5 billion billion litres. That’s 3 with 7 noughts times bigger than Hunga Tonga.
The scientists put the figure at a 10% increase of the water in the atmosphere , which must make a big difference .
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/3204/tonga-eruption-blasted-unprecedented-amount-of-water-into-stratosphere/
But it is to be expected that some people will try to ignore that .
Yes, you’re right, but it’s 10% into the strasphere, rather than the whole atmosphere. This is a significant factor, because the extra water vapour will stay in the stratosphere for several years, whereas it would quickly condensce out of the troposphere as rain.
The question is does the extra in the stratosphere have any significant effect.
NASA certainly think it is has had a marginal effect, probably explaining a good part of this year’s warning
Thanks for the link Paul. i dont have time to review many news sites but I check yours daily. Thus you flagging and linking to good stories around the media is a very handy shorthand for us.
In my very first stats lesson we were asked to comment on a graph that seemed to correlate the sale of cars to the amount of horse manure produced. It was a very good lesson – obviously missed by the BBC.
Harry, you are probably familiar with the wonderful little book by Darrell Huff
“How to Lie with Statistics”. It has been made available free online for some time now.
file:///C:/Users/Family/Downloads/How-to-Lie-with-Statistics.pdf
What is more remarkable, however, is that there are now several online blogs trying to actively “debunk” it and put him down. He was accused of being an advocate for “Big Tobacco” (aka equivalent to being a climate change denier sponsored by “Big Oil”) and “Huff and Puff”.
There are those out there saying he himself was a liar and you should not only trust statistics (well only those we want you to i.e Covid Vaccine safety stats from the Ministry of Truth but not those we don’t ) but also you should “Chuck the Huff”.
Here is one of many examples
https://www.effortmark.co.uk/avoid-how-to-lie-with-statistics/
There really are huge numbers of seriously evil people out there who do not want to allow you to even think for yourself anymore.
Does anyone else here think that there has been a noticeable shift in the BBCs reporting of the climate change issue? It appears to me that they have moved from selective reporting and implying links to climate change to outright lying.
Regarding thunderstorms, do they tend to increase in one place while decreasing in another? It is only my perception, but, in the East of England, thunderstorms seem to have been around much more when I was a kid whereas now they seem to be really quite rare.
Yes you’re right. Like quite a few posters on here, I regularly complain to the BBC but NOT about matters of interpretation, perceptions of bias or general style. I only complain about provable, factual errors in articles. These latter issues are rising almost exponentially because their journalists are completely out of control.
Here is one of my latest complaints about this article
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67511954
It states
“”To get 50C – that was quite hard,” says the former wholesaler, referring to the temperature of the water that these devices sent to radiators, known as the flow temperature.” Followed by:
“Today’s gas combi boilers are typically designed for flow temperatures of around 50-60C.”
That second sentence is complete bollocks and the author is either incredibly stupid or lying. After all why would the government fund adverts recommending (wrongly in my professional opinion) turning combi boiler flow temperatures DOWN to 60°C
From Worcester Bosch re their combi boilers ” They are factory set to operate at a flow temperature of 70 °C and a return temperature of 60 °C for central heating.” All other manufacturers quote the same figures, NONE at all claim they are designed for lower settings.
So why the deliberately wrong figure quoted? Well probably to get a financial “sweetener” from the various heat pump manufacturers and advocates he is promoting. DISINFORMATION by the BBC aka CORRUPTION.
I found a good youtube video about boiler temperature that gave the expected figures for flow out and the return. I presume that a return temp that is too low indicates that your system is not ideal.
Yes, it’s now full-on 100% propaganda with no concern for facts or accuracy.
From an internal BBC News email reported at Guido
Our verification tools are in better shape than ever – at the start of a year where misinformation and disinformation will be regular visitors to everyone’s feeds. And we have the production and technical skills to do all of that with immense quality.
It’s one thing to provide misinformation and disinformation, but quite another to brag about the quality of their effort.
An excellent and sensitive item from the Daily Sceptic – thanks for posting it, Paul.
BBC Midlands Today, Jan3rd. David Gregory-Kumar, science and environmental correspondent, shows a graph of river levels in Worcester from 2013 to 2023. Graph shows flooding in 13, 14, then no flooding in 15,16,17,18 19, flooding again in 20, 21, 22, and 23. Claims that last 4 years show flooding trend caused by climate change!
So flooding goes down and up whilst CO2 just goes up, and he claims cause! Wow, that’s stretching it a bit. Claiming Linear CO2 causing cyclic weather is about right for know-nothing climate alarmists.
Blimey, he still knocking about?
Nearby the Wye is currently subsiding… for now… after a nail biting rise.
At its speak I walked back along a tributary that has seen a ‘flood alleviation scheme’ created that the council and EA were keen to hang on climate change. This despite authorising scores of ‘affordable housing’ estates on every bit of traditional wetland upstream they can. Then ‘defending’ the estates. And finding clearing blocked gulleys much less fun than citizen’s climate assemblies. Amazingly, before this scheme nothing much happened until a supermarket built on a millpond got 1m in it. Then millions were thrown at protecting this, such that it does not flood now but all the run off is neatly carted under it and thrown out to established housing that never flooded ever before. The BBC has many local democracy reporters around. They mainly run press releases from XR and JSO.
Of course, the BBC was brazenly lying about “Global Warming”, (as it then was) back 20 years ago.
Then came Climategate in 2009, followed by “28 Gate”, the deliberate tactic by HorrorBin and his chums to alter the BBC’s Charter obligation to present balanced, truthful, evidence based facts.
Having disposed of the need for any semblance of balance, they now broadcast any twaddle they fancy.
The piece in the Spectator fillets the BBC’s infantile agit-prop quite effectively. But personally, I would have adopted a different approach. Just as Prince Andrew would have been well advised to say “Yes, I gave this very willing 17 year old one (but not in New York). Willing, but rubbish. So bloody what?” The best response to this concocted Bangladeshi scare story might have been to say, even if it is true (which I doubt), that more people have been struck by lightning, that is, of course, sad. But so bloody what?
Is this a phenomenon restricted to Bangladesh? How many have been similarly killed in Paraguay or in Togo?
How about Outer Mongolia? Where is there even a shred of evidence that CO2 is to blame? We have wasted trillions reducing our trivial UK CO2 emissions. Should you not be asking Modi and Xi Jinping to shed a tear?
Wow, some weirdo sciencey stuff from cbeebies kidultz section.
How does anyone take this lot seriously, is quite beyond me.
Following the link, the graph of deaths has a shape highly suggestive of changes in reporting.
There is a big step followed by a plateau at both 2000 and 2010.
Will the BBC be reporting drivers needing to rescued from their cars in Denmark due to the heavy snow? Or the deep cold hitting Sweden and Finland?
Or the minus 27C in Moscow?
In the past, BBC and the Grauniad have mentioned Mongolian Dzuds. These are extreme cold events that most Mongolians somehow survive but have several times killed a huge proportion of livestock, especially those of nomadic tribal people.
From memory, the 2009 Dzud killed about a third of Mongolia’s livestock. Clearly, with disasterous consequences for the herders and their families.
Curiously, neither the Beeb nor the Grauniad ever seem to find room in their busy servings of their carefully selected “news” to mention this on air or the front page, where even the most blatant nonsense (Bangladeshi lightning victims?), readily receive pride of place.
he ho, Bangladesh had some bumper harvests last year, with one of the highest population densities in the world. Climate change moves in mysterious ways.
One of four weather apps on my phone is the Met Office app. I don’t use it much because I get more and better information from the others, but it has been noticeable of late that there has been a marked increase in yellow/orange alerts for heavy rain/strong winds, most of which have been over-hyped or which have just not materialised.
Zeus exacting retribution for Bangladesh building new coal-fired power stations.
68 million population in 1970, 170 million today. So 2.5x the number of people. 300 deaths for 170 million people really is totally unimportant.
Basically news is free to you, cos it is not new useful info,
Rather it’s PR
MSM routinely do PRasNews amplifying the POLITICAL/financial interests of their mates and pet politics
whilst hiding others.
News stories so often are copyNpaste from PR material
I suspect here the Bangladesh govt DDM has a big project to push
BBC story dates Dec 31
Local news on Dec 22
“Palm tree project failed, now comes lightning arrester worth Tk 13b”
“The experts argue that this project is a mere waste of money.
..
While the Disaster Management department is implementing a Tk 13.21 billion project, the Ministry of Agriculture is seeking approval for a similar project worth Tk 2.31 billion. Local Government Engineering Department (LGED) is also installing lightning arresters as part of a separate project valued at Tk 40 billion.
Earlier in 2018, Bangladesh Meteorological Department installed Lightning Detection Sensors in eight places for Tk 620 million. The system introduced for lightning warning is no longer working.
The DDM in 2017 decided to plant 4 million palm trees across the country under Kabikha and TR projects. Within two years, palm trees in some places died or in some places money was misappropriated without planting any tree. “
– You can see the BBC reporter traveled to 2 areas and her long report centres around 2 deaths
It credits 4 other people .. One a photographer must have gone with her
The stats/science etc are 2 minor parts of the article.
As ever there is a true world
but it can be difficult to pull out the truth
especially in foreign counties with different cultures
Sure some deaths happen that way
But the reporter forgot to tell us that government compensation is paid to victims of lightning.
Reporting Bias : Number of official reports may not represent the situation on the ground
eg in the past maybe with no mobile phones and no compensation , deaths were not formally reported
I saw a science study that relied on counting newspaper reports .. and that is affected by other factors of course
Newspaper have reports on statistical jumps
2019 https://www.unb.com.bd/category/bangladesh/sharp-rise-in-deaths-by-lightning-strikes-126-killed-in-may-june/22309
– 2018 https://thefinancialexpress.com.bd/views/reviews/alarming-rise-in-lightning-strikes-government-takes-ad-hoc-measures-1527694367
That goes into great deaths about many factors
It doesn’t matter what the truth of it is. Most people will have glanced at the headline and the first paragraph, thought “Oh dear, worrying” and filed it away in their minds.
Anyone who later challenges what they have accepted as fact will be regarded with suspicion. That’s how propaganda works.
That is EXACTLY why they do it!
Meanwhile: Number of deaths and injuries due to lightning in the U.S. from 1995 to 2022 sees huge decreases – must be due to man-made climate change:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/203715/injuries-and-fatalities-caused-by-lightning-in-the-us/
Yet another reason why the BBC are viewed as a disgrace and embarrassment to our country and should be disbanded. More justification for why I and millions of UK citizens no longer pay the licence fee.