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Hottest 12 Months for 125,000 Years Claim Lacks Any Scientific Evidence

January 8, 2024
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By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Patsy Lacey

 

A good roundup from Chris Morrison:

 

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Last year humanity lived through the hottest 12 months in at least 125,000 years, reported an hysterical CNN, a frame of mind replicated throughout much of the mainstream media. Scientists have compared 2023’s “climate change fallout” to a “disaster movie”, added the U.S. cable news channel. All poppycock, needless to say, with a political Net Zero motive, and little if any scientific evidence to back it up. Accurate temperature records barely started before the 20th century, and recent measurements by fixed thermometers have been heavily corrupted by growing urban heat. It is in fact possible using proxy measurements to get a good idea of general temperature movements over the last 125,000 years. All the evidence points to periods of much higher temperatures, notably between 10,000 to 5,000 years ago. The latest science paper examining this trend has just been published, and it points to summer temperatures at least 1.5°C higher around 5,000 years ago in the eastern Mediterranean, at a time when civilisation was developing rapidly.

It is not the only paper recently published that suggests there were much higher temperatures periods in the recent past.

Full story here.

37 Comments
  1. January 8, 2024 9:54 am

    The climate change scam is completely evidence-free. So are all these claims of hottest-ever, wettest-ever, stormiest-ever, driest-ever etc etc.

    • January 8, 2024 11:02 am

      Pseudoscience don’t need no bleepin’ evidence!

      • Chris Phillips permalink
        January 9, 2024 5:09 pm

        Climate change is now a religion so you don’t need ANY actual evidence to believe in it. Anyone who doesn’t believe in it is a blasphemer so doesn’t need to be listened too.
        And, just like the ancients, we need to make sacrifices to appease the climate change gods, so instead of killing animals and offering them up, we instead deny ourselves heating, travel, meat and anything else the climate zeolots tell us we should feel guilty about.
        And if we don’t do as we’re told by the high priests of climate change, we’ll all perish in a climate armageddon (equivalent to hellfire).
        The churches may be in decline in the western world, but religion is still with us, just in another form.

      • January 13, 2024 2:26 pm

        “we need to make sacrifices to appease the climate change gods, so instead of killing animals and offering them up, we instead deny ourselves heating, travel, meat and anything else the climate zeolots tell us we should feel guilty about.”

        “Ourselves” more like other people/ “the great unwashed” especially the poor in developing countries – the idea of carbon offsetting i.e. replace machines with human labour (i.e. Child & women) is 1 of the most sexists/ racist thing I have ever come across (the real sexists/ racists hide in plain sight and get a kick out of accusing others of bigotry)

        The private jet owning climate zeolots or prophet/profiters remind me of the dodgy pastor with the expensive watch and car who brainwashes the poor to give them lots of money while talking about poverty, gluttony and greed.

        Good religions actually encourage you to think for yourself – it is arguably the whole point of Protestantism.

    • HarryPassfield permalink
      January 8, 2024 11:07 am

      Phillip, I have a small river runs through my garden and it regularly floods the lower garden – we live with it. But while taking a walk near my house we were stopped by an (I guess) 80-odd year-old woman who lived nearby. We all grumbled about the weather which she immediately claimed was down to – drum roll – Climate Change! The fact that she hadn’t a clue what she was talking about just hilighted how effective the propaganda war is. I tried gently to explain that it was ‘weather’ but I could see it was a lost cause.

      • gezza1298 permalink
        January 8, 2024 1:26 pm

        My barber is not a believer.

  2. ralfellis permalink
    January 8, 2024 9:57 am

    Yet we know that the Holocene Maximum just 8,000 years ago, was hotter than now.

    The Taiga forest in northern Siberia extended up to 200 km further north, indicating much warmer polar temperatures at that time – up to 7 degrees warmer than now. The fossilised stumps of these trees are still visible.

    Treeline History and Climate, Hammarlund et al.
    https://www.academia.edu/15186548/Holocene_Treeline_History_and_Climate_Change_Across_Northern_Eurasia

    R

    • ralfellis permalink
      January 8, 2024 10:08 am

      Note: much of this Boreal warming was likely due to increased obliquity (the axial inclination of the Earth), which was higher than the present 23.4 degree angle. The maximum angle was 24.2 degrees, some 8,500 years ago.

      In plain language:

      Obliquity takes energy from the equator and donates it to the poles, over a 40,000 year cycle. Both at the same time, so polar warming and cooling is synchronous.

      Precession takes energy from one pole and donates it to the other, over a 22,000 year cycle. So polar warming and cooling is asynchronous.

      See Pierre Laskar for precession and obliquity cycle calculations, going back 25 million years. So established science is fairly certain about these orbital cycles.

      Ralph

      • January 8, 2024 12:12 pm

        I.e. The Milankovitch Cycles. Just for fun, each cycle has a vastly different cycle time.

      • ralfellis permalink
        January 8, 2024 1:39 pm

        Not quite Milankovitch.

        Because eccentricity is low at present the precessional portion of Milankovitch Great Summers is reduced, and we are more reliant on the 40 kyr obliquity cycle.

        This is why the Holocene interglacial has been much longer, just as the interglacial 450 kyr ago was. When precession is reduced, the interglacial can last for nearly half an obliquity cycle, or about 16 kyrs.

        Hence we are due another ice age in about 1,000 years. Although because eccentricity remains low, it is not certain if the looming Great Winter will be strong enough to precipitate a full blown ice age.

        R

    • January 8, 2024 10:24 am

      ” Yet we know that the Holocene Maximum just 8,000 years ago, was hotter than now. ”

      We now live in the Adjustocene era, so all data can be adjusted to suit belief

    • glenartney permalink
      January 8, 2024 11:18 am

      That period of optimum growing conditions for trees must have lasted for at least a few hundred years to give the trees time to move that far north and grow to maturity.

      • ralfellis permalink
        January 8, 2024 11:54 am

        Yes, the Holocene Maximum began about 9,000 years and and ran through to about 5,000 years ago. So plenty of time for boreal treeline advancement.

        The black temperature plot is by Marcott et al, while the purple curve is Axial Obliquity. Graph from Judith Curry.

        Ralph

  3. January 8, 2024 11:12 am

    One might think that, if we are trying to genuinely assess climatic variations over recent decades, it might be a good idea to take a “snapshot” of atmospheric conditions at a fixed time, on a fixed date, every year, going back as far as we could. Yes there will be year to year variation, nature doesn’t do straight lines, but over time we should get an impression of exactly what is happening climatically speaking. You might think so ! Well we have, it is here at –

    Historical Charts

    Perhaps it doesn’t agree with the propaganda, but if we could -just perhaps- encourage politicians to look at reality from time to time it might improve things, just a bit !

    • Old Met Man permalink
      January 8, 2024 10:01 pm

      Is this website, which contains some interesting material, being kept up-to-date?

      • January 9, 2024 8:44 am

        Hi there, yes it is – as much as is possible these days ! A lot of the info sources are quietly disappearing. I’m currently watching the development of the Thermosphere climate graph which is doing interesting stuff, and of course the next chart on the historical section awaits May 7th. If you have any comments you are more than welcome to add them in the comments section. Feel free to browse and comment at will !

  4. January 8, 2024 11:17 am

    Somebody spoke too soon…

    Europe’s Natural Gas and Power Prices Jump as Cold Snap Begins
    Jan 05, 2024
    Power prices in Finland jumped to record-high levels as a deep freeze in Europe began in the Arctic parts of the Nordic countries and is set to move south to northwest Europe in the weekend and next week…

    https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Europes-Natural-Gas-and-Power-Prices-Jump-as-Cold-Snap-Begins.html

    Some places below -40°C daytime.

    • glenartney permalink
      January 8, 2024 11:28 am

      The real freeze of the Winter of 1947 began, for the UK, on 21 January, caused by an anticyclone which sat over Scandinavia.
      My mother always said that it’s late start just when people thought winter wouldn’t have long left was a big shock. That it lasted until mid March was also a shock to the system.
      A late freeze always concerns me as a result of her “47 was much worse” every winter

      • ralfellis permalink
        January 8, 2024 11:56 am

        I think the bitter 1963 winter was a late freeze too.

        R

      • catweazle666 permalink
        January 8, 2024 5:44 pm

        I got my first motorbike – a BSA C15 – at the end of June 1963.
        Riding round the hills in the Yorkshire Dales there were still snowdrifts under the walls.

      • January 9, 2024 2:05 am

        It would be very interesting to compare early January 1947 to our current weather. Did you guys see that documentary on channel 5 last week (it is probably on demand5) about the winter of 1947?

        Is it just me or did it leave a large elephant in the room when it discussed the possibility of a 1947 style winter happening again – how would we handle it today?

    • January 8, 2024 12:39 pm

      ” Europe’s Natural Gas and Power Prices Jump as Cold Snap Begins ”

      Oh to have a big stockpile of coal and suitable mechanical handling equipment and some coal-fired power stations.

  5. John, Uk permalink
    January 8, 2024 12:12 pm

    1963 Winter set in by 1st weekend in Jan 63 in Newcastle, as 3rd round FA Cup Tie Ncle Utd v Bradford City was postponed for the 1st time that saturday. After a further 12 postponements the tie was eventually played sometime in Marcjh when the thaw set in.

  6. Gamecock permalink
    January 8, 2024 12:43 pm

    My long-term observations have shown the real cold winter temps usually get here – SE US – the second week in January. This week is fine, but next week, highs don’t get out of the 40s°F. So it’s a week late. Within 2 σ, I’d say.

    Nothing to see here. Just another winter.

  7. jeremy23846 permalink
    January 8, 2024 1:08 pm

    The climate change zealots like Al Gore are determined to keep the gravy train going, despite the misery they inflict on those too young, too old, or too stupid to see through the nonsense. Unfortunately that seems to include the majority of the population, at least in this country.

    • January 9, 2024 2:12 am

      I’m not sure which country you’re in but in the UK at least as someone who was a member of the green party in at least you the support re

    • January 9, 2024 3:06 am

      Jeremy23846. Ignore 1st reply please see reply further down – it is too easy to submit comments on app accidently

  8. 2hmp permalink
    January 8, 2024 2:39 pm

    The ’63 freeze started on Boxing Day in the south east. I couldn’t my car out of the garage for the piled up wind blown snow for three weeks..

    • glenartney permalink
      January 8, 2024 5:30 pm

      Boxing Day for me in Perthshire too. Averaged about one or two days a week at school until March.
      Snow built up round the house until eventually we had to use the hatch to the coal store. We’d run out of coal by then and were reaching the end of the wood, were sawing it and using same day.
      Happy if very cold days

  9. January 8, 2024 3:49 pm

    In particular there is a very conclusive database from published papers on the Nature website, using multiple data series from many global locations and dozens of published papers.

    The science says there is absolutely NO truth in the 125Ka claims in the facts of the record, or support for the lies of Hokey stick data wanglers, like Mann, Marcot, Maslin, Gore, the IPCC’s climate muddlers, et al.

    Real science deniers all ….. only science fiction. So much easier to just make it up. So much easier to prove them wrong.

    10Ka Holocene:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41597-020-0530-7

    2Ka BP to compare with IPCC’s “no change for 2,000 years to 1850”. A lie

    https://www.nature.com/articles/sdata201426

    Just the facts they don’t and never had. Or never used as recorded. Always made it up or fudged the data while claiming to use it. Complete Charlatans. Not a scientific bone in any of these liars. Piltdown Mann the worst?

  10. W Flood permalink
    January 8, 2024 5:49 pm

    Well, 2023 in the UK was a little cooler than 2022 so 2023 is only the second best priest in Ireland.

  11. January 9, 2024 3:03 am

    Oops this thing needs an edit button.

    I’m not sure which country you’re in but in the UK at least as someone who was a member of the green party most of those people mean well and only support doing something about climate change because they see plug and play alternatives and that only evil oil companies will and capitalism is stopping this – ironic since the predecessor to the England and Wales green party is a split off of the British conservative & unionist party who were the ones who started the push for energy deregulation by forcing the CEGB (central electricity generating board) to buy power from or independent generator it didn’t actually need/want and at a higher cost than it could do itself were probably one of the biggest groups in favour of privatisation of the British electricity system in the 1980s. If the CEGB was never privatised the dash for gas would have likely not happened and the fleet of PWRs to accompany sizewell b would have been built meaning at the end of 1990s 50%+ of our electricity would have been from nuclear (Ireland would probably have built a nuclear station jointly with Northern Ireland instead of importing natural gas from the UK as using natural gas to generate electricity would have still being frowned upon) and with the need to replace the magnox reactors in the early 2000s at this point we could have got to 80%+.

    • January 9, 2024 2:35 pm

      ” and the fleet of PWRs to accompany sizewell b would have been built ”

      There was certainly an intention to commence construction of Sizewell C immediately after B was completed in the 1990s, smooth transition etc. Sizewell C to be a twin reactor version of B. As I recall, the total construction cost for Sizewell C was less than the current cost overrun for Hinkley Point C.

      • January 9, 2024 2:36 pm

        …. total PROPOSED construction cost for Sizewell C

      • January 13, 2024 8:54 pm

        Yes, I believe the grid connection built when Sizewell B was being built was sized for Sizewell being expanded https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/sizewell-is-targeted-for-nuclear-expansion-1540797.html unfortunately I can’t find what the output for the twin PWR design to figure out if Sizewell C & D were both meant to be 2 units each so 4 units into total as that would be at least 1200 MW * 4 = 4800 mw + at least a twin unit at the original Hinkley Point C = 6000 MW and the late 1990s when nuclear was 25% of generations at 12 GW capacity I’m thinking 20 GW could have got as high as 60% of generations and since the early CCGT run as baseload (the waste! the waste of natural gas but I digress) with coal load following less gas generation. It would be interesting to see what would have happened with the renewables subsidy farming racket as increasing nuclear in the early 2000s with a plan to use off peak electricity to displace daytime heating demand.

  12. January 9, 2024 2:07 pm

    Sky radio news just broadcast that 2023 was the hottest year ever. No mention of “since records began” , the word used was “ever” .

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