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Navy could make climate change courses compulsory

February 14, 2024

By Paul Homewood

h/t Philip Bratby

No, it’s not April 1st!

 

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The Royal Navy is considering introducing compulsory climate change courses for all sailors, The Telegraph can reveal.

A leaked briefing paper suggests that all Navy personnel could be forced to attend online training sessions about the impact of climate change on defence.

“While this course is not yet mandated, it does provide a comprehensive overview on the science behind climate change and most importantly its relevance to defence,” the paper reads.

The document, published last autumn, reveals that the Navy’s climate change and sustainability unit is “exploring opportunities” to pay for sailors to study postgraduate courses on global warming.

Environmental scientists could also be given berths on board Britain’s warships to conduct research, the paper says.

“We are developing relationships with universities to offer enduring opportunities to use Royal Navy platforms for their research, such as this December’s deployment in HMS Protector with scientists from Portsmouth University onboard,” it reads

The paper adds that climate change “threatens peace”, could worsen “gender inequality” and global poverty, and that “globally rising sea levels” could damage “ports and maritime infrastructure”.

Craig Mackinlay MP, chairman of the Net Zero Scrutiny Group in Parliament, said: “Sadly nothing surprises me anymore.

“The green blob keeps expanding and our public institutions appear to enjoy nothing better than getting distracted by fashionable causes.

“The Royal Navy once inspired awe and admiration but that legacy is being squandered.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/13/royal-navy-climate-change-courses-mandatory/

Fifty years ago, this would have made for a good story line on Monty Python!

47 Comments
  1. Marzouk permalink
    February 14, 2024 9:40 am

    Ask sailors to look out of porthole. Problem solved.

  2. February 14, 2024 9:41 am

    A new excuse for things going wrong?

  3. Mike Post permalink
    February 14, 2024 10:00 am

    From today’s Daily Telegraph: “The Armed Forces will have to hit net zero by 2050 as part of the Government’s broader commitment.”
    No comment!

    • glenartney permalink
      February 14, 2024 12:44 pm

      Youtuber MGuy has

  4. Mack permalink
    February 14, 2024 10:00 am

    It could be very useful. They’ll learn that the sinking Maldives have 4 more airports than they used to, all because of man made climate change. A perfect location for parking the last of the RN’s operational submarines Them Majesty’s Ship Diversity. Marvellous.

  5. brianohara1 permalink
    February 14, 2024 10:02 am

    It’s not the navy, it’s got to be the woke civil servants who are pushing this.

    • February 14, 2024 11:13 am

      That and green shysters seeking new ways to hoover up all the taxpayer money available for anything green.

    • John Brown permalink
      February 14, 2024 12:15 pm

      There is no such separate movement as “woke”, as in “awake to injustice”.

      Woke is simply the fifth column Marxists/communists at work to destroy the West’s wealth, social cohesion and ultimately security. Woke will invent and promote any policy which weakens and wrecks our nation. Attacking our history, implementing diversity to replace meritocracy, abolishing free speech, causing racist, religious and gender divisions and ruining our education/culture, judicial system, economy and military capability are all tools they use.

      The reason why so much woke is hypocritical and impractical economy destroying nonsense is because the only coherent thread running through it all is the wrecking of the West.

      • brianohara1 permalink
        February 14, 2024 12:35 pm

        Yes, and that as well.

  6. February 14, 2024 10:09 am

    Thank God I left in 1984

  7. David permalink
    February 14, 2024 10:13 am

    Does the captain have nice cocktail parties on these cruises?

  8. iananthonyharris permalink
    February 14, 2024 10:15 am

    The Navy does not need to be brainwashed with this contentious bilge, when they can’t even get a multi billi

  9. Jack Broughton permalink
    February 14, 2024 10:17 am

    I loved the bit “Environmental scientists could also be given berths on board Britain’s warships to conduct research, the paper says.”  I bet that the eco warriors would love to be in a battle zone. Can just see them preventing any armaments being used that have carbon footprints and monitoring energy use as the shells fly. I couldn’t make it up anyway.

    • February 14, 2024 11:17 am

      The Royal Navy actually has a long history of scientific exploration and allowing civilians to sail with them for that end. The obscene part is the pointless expense and waste of time of putting on mandatory courses on climate change. You can guarantee that the course will contain the worst sort of climate extremism

      • Mike Jackson permalink
        February 14, 2024 1:20 pm

        I’m in favour of continuing that long history.
        Unless our sailors have become totally brainwashed it shouldn’t take too long to work out the research outcomes are not bearing much, if any, relation to the published “results”. Or alternatively the “scientists” might just discover that simply getting the results you want does not make you friends among people whose lives depend on reality not on your personal wish list.

      • mikewaite permalink
        February 14, 2024 1:45 pm

        I think that most nations with adequate navies and imperial ambitions carried experts in geology , botany etc . Cook with botanists, HMS Beagle with Darwin etc . Darwin’s captain of course , Fitroy , was one of the principal instigators of the Met Office. So back to the origin then for the RN.

      • Jack Broughton permalink
        February 14, 2024 4:37 pm

        I was being tongue-in-cheek about the wokes, not disparaging the RN. The idea of constraining ships of other equipment to reduce carbon footprint is so silly that I’m sure that I hear Vlad the inhaler laughing with Xi.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      February 14, 2024 12:56 pm

      Surely the perfect placement for agents of a foreign power?

      • John Brown permalink
        February 15, 2024 9:14 am

        Correct. This is a smart move to insert spies and sabateurs. No doubt selected from the 120,000 Chinese “students” in our universities.

  10. liardetg permalink
    February 14, 2024 10:35 am

    I have read the Parliamentary Defence Commitee’s report on ‘decarbonisiimg’ the armed forces. It is the silliest, most ignorant, misinformed thing I have read for a long time. How grown up adults can subscribe to such drivel perplexes me. Our CO2 comes from jet tail pipes, funnels and vehicle exhausts. Touch any of that and you affect our fighting capability which is pathetic enough anyway. 

    • gezza1298 permalink
      February 14, 2024 11:57 am

      Having sent most of our equipment to Poland to play soldiers now would seem to be a good time to invade.

      • It doesn't add up... permalink
        February 14, 2024 12:58 pm

        Just so long as Putin doesn’t construe it as Poland attacking Russia.

  11. W Flood permalink
    February 14, 2024 10:42 am

    Like we’re all going to be eaten by a giant mutant star goat as in HHGTTG. The Golgafrincham Ark B was clearly intended for the likes of JSO and XR protestors.

    • ThinkingScientist permalink
      February 14, 2024 4:42 pm

      The way things are going I am beginning to believe that I am actually living on the Earth that Ark B crashed into

  12. Penda100 permalink
    February 14, 2024 10:54 am

    Clearly the Navy needs to make a “futile gesture”.

    • dennisambler permalink
      February 14, 2024 2:44 pm

      They need to change course, quickly.

  13. micda67 permalink
    February 14, 2024 11:02 am

    “While this course is not yet mandated, it does provide a comprehensive overview on the science behind climate change and most importantly

    Science is art of researching a problem and providing a repeatable experimental result – if it cannot be repeated then it is not science but failed research.

    Climate change has been declared “settled science”, but who has proved repeatable experimental evidence? – all we have is a computer model with some variables set up but nothing that proves or disproves the model.

    This is bad science, just as we are finding out that the science behind mRNA experimental vaccines was never “settled” nor proven by comprehensive clinical trails (ah, they will argue, time was against us, we needed a cure before billions died), science is being abused by invested parties and given the amounts of money involved, some are going to get exceptionally wealthy from this fakery.

    Maybe, and this is just a suggestion for the MOD, sailors could be better employed learning to do the job they are employed to do – seamanship has been seen to be lacking given the recent ship on ship collision brought about by a lack of training.

    I foresee a time when Victory will be relaunched as a Green Warship, after all it relies 100% on green technology- sails;

    What do we do with the Green Sailor,

    What do we do with the Green Sailor,

    Sink the ship because he’s unable,

    Early in the morning…………….

  14. terryfwall permalink
    February 14, 2024 11:06 am

    Any chance that the rising sea levels will be sufficient to re-float HMS Victory? At least that would give us one capital ship that could make it out of the harbour.

    • February 14, 2024 11:19 am

      HMS Prince of Wales sailed yesterday and both carriers have been successfully deployed many times

      • glenartney permalink
        February 14, 2024 12:56 pm

        There is a 100 year old issue with the carriers. If both are at sea then their airwings total 70-80 aircraft. These are shared with the RAF, the UK has 74 available with a total ordered of 138. October 2023.

        It was this situation that led to the RN having obsolete aircraft in low numbers at the start of WW2. The success these achieved is remarkable.

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        February 17, 2024 12:25 pm

        That’s not really true. PoW sailed (but it didn’t) because Elizabeth has to return to port for repairs. And in 2022 PoW broke down off the Isle of Wight.

      • February 17, 2024 1:04 pm

        HMS Prince of Wales did sail. Both ships have spent many successful days at sea.

    • February 14, 2024 6:02 pm

      Sea Level and Length of Day

      Look at the Leap Second Data. Sea Level went down since 1972 when the Atomic Clock was put in service as a time standard. A rising sea level would slow the earth crust spin rate and more and more leap seconds would have been needed every year. 

      http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp50/leapsecond.cfm

      Leap Seconds are being added less frequently.  This does show that the earth crust is rotating faster. This means the inertia of earth has decreased due to the snowfall and ice sequestering that we have had since 1972 which moved water from the low latitude oceans to ice on high latitudes, polar regions.  This means that the ice volume at both poles and high latitudes has increased and that means the oceans are dropping and not rising. The warming cycle of the past three hundred years is over, and we are in a several hundred-year warm period while the Polar Oceans are thawed sufficiently that evaporation and snowfall with IR out is rebuilding the sequestered ice that will advance and cause the next cooling phase. The glaciers are still retreating so it is still warming, but they are being replenished at their source at a faster rate.  Greenland, and other ice on land, and the Antarctic Continent are being net replenished on top at a faster rate than they are losing from the sides. The leap seconds changes do show that.

      This is proof that sea level, overall, is lower than it was in 1972 when the Atomic Clock was put into service measuring time most accurately.

      There were three more leap seconds added between December 2011 to December 2016 and none since 2016, this is more than seven more years with no added leap second and none expected.

      Overall sea level is steady for now, the sequestered ice that is thawing and entering the oceans is balanced by the oceans that are evaporating and the snowfall that is being sequestered near the spin axis of the earth.

      Sea Level is hard to measure and hard to average with daily tides and various high and low atmosphere pressure regions over oceans that vary over short- and long-term time periods, while time and Length of Day is measured constantly to a tiny fraction of a second. Summary: Overall Sea Level went down since 1972 and has been steady since 2016, watch Length of day for the next change.

  15. Bill Hutchison permalink
    February 14, 2024 11:32 am

    Admiral Lord Collingwood (Nelson’s mentor) once said of a young man “This officer is as much use as a fart in a North-East gale.” – it seems to me that that officer must still be serving and organising naval training.

  16. Gamecock permalink
    February 14, 2024 11:44 am

    A Green Commissar on every ship. Will they carry Makarovs?

    While this course is not yet mandated, it does provide a comprehensive overview on the science behind climate change and most importantly its relevance to defence”

    Christ, where are the editors? While not mandated has FA to do with the course content. Making one sentence of it is a record scratch.

  17. gezza1298 permalink
    February 14, 2024 12:01 pm

    The Monty Python link just shows how difficult it is for comedy these days. ’I have just thought up this really funny sketch where….. What do you mean you read about that in the newspaper last week? You mean it is really happening? Oh, b*ll*cks!’

  18. gezza1298 permalink
    February 14, 2024 12:06 pm

    Off topic – battery cars. In an email from a company selling fire protection equipment they were promoting their range of fire blankets for lithium battery fires and it does include blankets to put over a burning battery car. Perhaps the car companies should provide one with every car.

    • glenartney permalink
      February 14, 2024 12:57 pm

      It’ll weigh too much.

  19. Ian PRSY permalink
    February 14, 2024 12:16 pm

    OT, but Dale Vince has just appeared on TalkTV and done a total about face on his earlier stance. Hypocrite. Unfortunately, the interviewer didn’t seem to be aware.

  20. mjr permalink
    February 14, 2024 2:10 pm

    if you recall the film “Hunt for Red October”, the Russian submarine has a Political commissar . 

    This wiki explains what the function of this role is. It is “a supervisory officer responsible for the political education (ideology) and organization of the unit to which they are assigned, with the intention of ensuring political control of the military“ 

    It also says “The function remains in use in China’s People’s Liberation Army, Taiwan’s Republic of China Army, and Vietnam’s People’s Army.“  I think this needs updating to include The Royal Navy

  21. jeremy23846 permalink
    February 14, 2024 2:28 pm

    Is this so they can deliberate whether there will be too many CO2 emissions to launch a missile?

  22. It doesn't add up... permalink
    February 14, 2024 3:15 pm

    They’re off in Potarneyland on HMS Troubridge.

    Are you ‘avin a lark?

    • February 14, 2024 3:34 pm

      Strewth I had to look that one up. Do you really remember that episode from 1965!?

  23. michael shaw permalink
    February 14, 2024 4:25 pm

    Seaman Staines will remember, Roger the Cabin Boy may remember other things.

  24. Mark Hodgson permalink
    February 14, 2024 7:17 pm

    Paul, if I may:

    It Ain’t Half Hot Mum

  25. John Anderson permalink
    February 15, 2024 7:49 am

    All ships to be anchored at all times, no armaments to be discharged…all in the name of climate change

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