The West’s electric car giants now risk destroying themselves
By Paul Homewood
h/t Ian Magness
It’s nice to see that Ben Marlow has finally woken up to reality, after years of promoting Net Zero:
For an industry built on the quiet purr of its expensive technology, the sound of the electric car market screeching to a halt is too loud not to be heard.
The ensuing pile-up threatens to turn into a battle for survival – the car industry’s equivalent of the Hunger Games that some of the biggest names may not walk away from.
The dynamics are very simple.
It is a classic case of supply greatly exceeding demand, in this instance brought about by politicians and regulators determined to impose arbitrary deadlines on carmakers regardless of whether they are realistic and without any consideration for the wider fallout.
It is further evidence, if any was needed, of the wrong-headed pursuit of net zero at all costs. Almost eight in 10 new electric cars are now being sold at a discount as demand stalls – a sharp increase on just over half a year ago. And while a similar proportion of petrol cars are experiencing price cuts, electric vehicle (EV) prices are being cut more sharply.
Meanwhile, the market is increasingly being propped up by tax-efficient corporate schemes as appetite among private buyers goes into reverse.
Fleet purchases have accounted for 60pc of registrations so far this year, up from a little over half over the same period in 2022.
Private sales have fallen nearly 10pc, suggesting the so-called early adopter phase that drove the first wave of purchases is already over. In Germany, Sweden and Italy, electric sales have plunged 30pc.
As carmakers scramble to meet strict deadlines for phasing out petrol and diesel models that have been imposed on them by complicit governments, overproduction of electric cars is taking place on a massive scale.
The industry may argue that it has no choice as companies which fail to hit targets must pay fines or trade carbon credits. But the result will still be the same: millions of unsold electric cars piling up in giant lots and at dealerships.
Major European ports are already being turned into giant car depots, as manufacturers, distributors, and retailers struggle with the demand slowdown.
And despite all the fears about Western brands being unable to compete with the cheap Chinese models flooding the market, cars from the East Asia are a big contributor to the bottlenecks being experienced at many major ports.
Some Chinese brands have been sitting in European ports for up to 18 months, prompting some to demand proof of onward transport from importers, according to reports.
Without the demand to support the vast number of cars flying off the production line, new data shows that the global car industry is on course to produce as many as 20 million more electric cars over the next three years than the market can absorb. It is hard to think of another example of such a staggering misallocation of capital. The dot-com bubble perhaps? That is one analyst’s analogy.
The optimistic take is that such a vast glut will be great for consumers because it means prices will come tumbling down, paving the way for the next wave of consumers – those that American sociologist Everett Rogers dubbed the “early adopters” – for whom cost is a key factor.
Yet, price is only one reason why the majority of consumers continue to stick with petrol and diesel models.
The obstacles to mass adoption are by now well-trodden but it is worth recalling that they are numerous: range anxiety; lack of charging points; fears over reliability; repair bills; insurance costs; concerns about qualified technician numbers; limited selection; and of course, affordability.
Prices are coming down fairly sharply. Tesla has just announced a string of price cuts in China, the US and Europe following a slowdown in sales.
The expected influx of cheap Chinese versions will help to bring down prices further. There will be bargains to be had for those that time their first purchase right.
But equally, there is every reason to think there will be a whole generation of consumers that led the way for whom the depreciation will be so severe that in a couple of years, they will be sitting on huge losses and the mess will put them off buying again.
A more realistic view is that the EV market is on the cusp of a major reckoning that will claim some serious scalps.
The cracks are already emerging.
Arrival, the electric van start-up that some laughably called “Britain’s Tesla”, has declared bankruptcy in the UK, just months after Sweden’s electric lorry outfit Volta Trucks went bust.
California’s Fisker, which even more preposterously once likened itself to Apple, is expected to go the same way.
These are the weaker players but it would be a mistake to assume the big manufacturers are immune by virtue of size alone. A rethink is already taking place. Ford is considering partnerships with General Motors after warning that some battery-operated models have become unprofitable because of spiralling raw material prices.
Rental giant Hertz has blamed high repair costs for a decision to dump 20,000 electric vehicles. Others are tentatively pulling back.
Yet, the bigger picture is still one in which the industry goliaths have set aside billions to build entirely new line-ups from scratch.
Stellantis, maker of Fiat and Peugeot, is planning to introduce more than 75 fully electric models this decade, while Volkswagen has earmarked €180bn for electrification. It is a massive throw of the dice.
Elon Musk recently said that China’s electric upstarts will demolish most Western carmakers unless trade barriers are erected. But it may not come to that. Some could end up squandering such vast sums of capital that they end up destroying themselves.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/04/23/the-electric-car-revolution-is-eating-its-children/
So why not take the next logical step Ben, and start campaigning not just for the ending of the ZEV Mandate and the ban on ICEs, but the abolition of the Net Zero Act itself?
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Forgive me for repeating myself but I hug myself with glee every time I read an article on the bursting of the EV balloon. If you will allow full language, Mr Blogger, I’ll quote Kingsley Amis pretending to be Robert Conquest.
I told you so, you fucking fools!
As I have previously remarked, NetZero is just one big Con, rivalled only by the Pandemic Jab Con?
Net Poverty.
Totally agree!!
So if the Chinese were to flood the market with cheap typewriters and VCRs everyone would ditch their computers and cancel their streaming services and chuck DVD players in the bin and rush out to buy the cheap Chinese stuff, because it cheap – no other considerations?
There’s that nice story about the new dog food in the US that had been carefully designed to tick all the boxes: nutrition, flavour, appearance, packaging, price, huge ad campaign – and it flopped.
A marketing specialist was called in to discover why the product had failed. The answer: the dogs didn’t like it.
Price is not the only deciding factor. Cheap BEVs will not solve range issues, cold weather issues, lack of infrastructure, time taken to recharge, lack of convenience, high insurance premiums, high repair costs, poor second hand value, fire risk associated with the batteries.
Deadlines, mandates, subsidies won’t either.
The EV scam was set up to fail from the outset in order to destroy the motor manufacturing industry. If this was not the case, there would have been a concerted effort from all concerned to ensure a widespread and reliable charging infrastructure. Mr Global wants to drive us off the roads and consign us to 15 minute cities, otherwise known as ghettos.
I don’t agree. It is just a good example of unintended consequences resulting from allowing mentally retarded people to run your country and make decisions they are incapable of understanding.
But who voted for ‘mentally retarded people to run the country and make decisions they are incapable of understanding’.???
But the policies and to a great extent the details of those policies are identical across the UK, Europe and the US. All are forcing ICEs of the roads, all are subsidising EVs, all are discouraging investment in oil & gas, all are subsidising renewables. Virtually every party in every Western country supports it all. I’d agree all politicians of every stripe are stupid everywhere, but how come they are now all stupid in the same way?
but how come they are now all stupid in the same way?
There will be a variety of reasons, one of which is that the believers’ forecast date for the end of the world – possibly by boiling – is not next year, it’s an undetermined future date, which allows for frenzied (expensive) activity with no means to accurately measure the effectiveness of the activity and no date set for the end of the activity.
It’s a “dream” situation for control freaks.
While quite a good article Pile has not realised that battery car production is being cut or stopped as the cars are not selling. While the big manufacturers may have committed money to building battery cars that doesn’t translate into them actually building them if nobody wants the ones they have already made. As the government imposed deadlines get closer it seems likely that to generate income the companies will ramp up production of cars people do want to buy. The UK with its own brand of ignorant socialists in charge is the only European country to have a system of fines on imposed on manufacturers so is a unique case. With a decade to go before EU restrictions kick in, there is a lot that can change during that period as the full horror of what Net Zero means takes its toll on prosperity.
Heating products manufacturer Grundfos is the latest company to announce it is pulling out of Germany to focus production in Denmark, Hungary and Serbia. 530 jobs will go in Wahlstedt which is 25% of their manufacturing employment and will hit city’s income when they stop paying business taxes. No doubt expensive energy costs is the main driver of the need to shift production.
The IEA recently said
“Prices of electricity for energy intensive industry in the EU in 2023 were almost double those in the US and China and the gap has widened putting EU energy intensive industry competitiveness under pressure.”
IEA ‘Electricity 2024 Analysis and forecast to 2026’
Autos “ have been sitting in European ports for up to 18 months, “
This is worthy of more information. A car made in 2022 is not yet on a lot ready for sale. Doesn’t this present problems? A two-year cycle of innovations means very soon these will compete with 2025 models. More questions than mosquitos in a swamp!
Autos “ have been sitting in European ports for up to 18 months, “
now Chinese EVs face the same fate :-
Stunning aerial images show thousands of electric cars arriving in Bristol
In a significant development last week, the Port of Bristol welcomed its largest ever single shipment of cars, predominantly consisting of Chinese-manufactured MG EVs.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/gallery/stunning-aerial-images-show-thousands-9243276
At £9,495 each, I’ll get two or three. Seems, though, this is a 5-year-old model. Maybe we should wait for the 2020 model.
At £9,495 each…
At that price, it could be a useful source of components to convert a classic ICE Brit car to a BEV.
In my opinion, the primary reason why BEVs sold in the UK was the tax breaks
Spare a thought (or not) for Volvo, who have not only put all their eggs in the EV basket, but also decided that they willl only build SUVs – and SUVs will be the next deeply unfashionable type of car.
Volvo is owned by a Chinese company, Geely Holding Group.
BEV obituary is premature.
A market correction is what we see.
A gross exaggeration.
It appears to be reversing, with some private and fleet buyers reverting to ICEs. What seems to be true is that there is currently significant overproduction and there is no sign that further planned increases in production will have any market. The industry has invested billions but getting little or no return on that investment. If that doesn’t change, it will go bust.
“The West’s electric car giants now risk destroying themselves”
Another good news story;
They knew the technology wasn’t up to the targets, so should have fought the legislators at the beginning & refused to comply from day one.
should have fought the legislators at the beginning
For manufacturers selling in the UK, it was a gift: the opportunity to sell new cars subsidised by the taxpayer, with the added benefit of legislation that financially penalises some aspects of owning older cars.
But many senior execs in these businesses are in the cult. And many are quite happy for consumers to be forced to buy what they make. The rot runs very deep.
The politicians don’t mind. Indeed, they are pleased. As with the concerted fake campaigns against water and rail companies, it allows them to intervene, interfere and ultimately nationalise. We saw this with energy: in France EdF got nationalised and there were calls in the UK for the “profiteering” energy companies to be nationalised – instead their profits were simply seized with punitive taxation. Failing businesses get taken over, successful ones get their profits taken over. We are marching towards totalitarianism again, but this time its a strange mix of Socialism and fascist corporatism.
Too early for a distinction; no need to specialize.
I know people who hate freedom. They will support either Marxists or Nazis, whoever promises to take freedom from the people. An all-powerful state is just fine with them.
I know people who hate freedom.
December 2023, UK: “New polling has suggested that around a fifth of the British public would back the return of Covid measures.”
https://www.gbnews.com/news/covid-lockdown-measures-uk-latest-polling
Defies logic.
And for most, once sold the dis/misinformation that drove the lockdowns, nothing, not even evidence, will change their minds. It’s always “Yes, but <illogical reason for keeping doing it>”, i.e. they may not disbelieve you/the facts, but ‘they know better’. Example: Fact: Masks are totally ineffective against the virus. Response: Yes, but I’ll still wear it to keep me safe.
The hatred of freedom isn’t logical, because it implies the haters losing their freedom, too. They will literally give up their freedom to keep you from being free. I.e., they will give up their freedom to keep strangers from being free.
The Marxists will give up their chances for prosperity to keep others from being prosperous. It’s not the wealth they hate, it’s the freedom wealth brings. Kulaks must die.
Anyone thinking of buying a new car is caught betthe Scylla of a not fit for purpose BEV and the Charybdis of a great ICE vehicle shortly to be legislated off the roads.
This achieves one of the long held objectives of the Uniparty getting people out of cars and restricting mobility.
It’s also an economic win for the Chinese, who own the majority of battery raw material supply globally.
Just prior to reaching my state pension age (2 years ago) I was considering buying a new car to “last me out”. With all the uncertainty I thought it wasn’t worth the risk, however, a friend had offered a very good price for my big diesel cruiser so I sold it to him. We use the wife’s car for longer journeys and I use the 20 year little Peugeot 107 (that I had bought secondhand for my children to learn to drive in), as the runaround.
All this uncertainty means that I have not contributed anything to the auto industry. I suspect many others are holding off on buying as well so in the end who is suffering apart from the car makers.
Only superior commenters get their thoughts duplicated!:)
I bought a used pickup (2019) three years ago and I expect it to be my last purchase. If I move from rural to urban, I may change my mind. Still, it will be a 2 or 3 year old vehicle.
Just prior to reaching my state pension age (2 years ago) I was considering buying a new car to “last me out”. With all the uncertainty I thought it wasn’t worth the risk, however, a friend had offered a very good price for my big diesel cruiser so I sold it to him. We use the wife’s car for longer journeys and I use the 20 year little Peugeot 107 (that I had bought secondhand for my children to learn to drive in), as the runaround.
All this uncertainty means that I have not contributed anything to the auto industry. I suspect many others are holding off on buying as well so in the end who is suffering apart from the car makers.
Am I seeing double? Or is this New York, New York so good they named it twice! Why are so many posts duplicating?
IIt’s obvious EV’s are not the solution, and neither is the ICE. Automobiles are a huge waste of resources for the majority of people. A single person riding around in a gas guzzling SUV is not a solution. Electro-mechanical propulsion is the solution that benefits consumers,not manufacturers. You don’t need cars loaded up with a bunch of overpriced electronics that are expensive to repair. The consumer is the one that will find out the hard way.
“ bunch of overpriced electronics” & much else
In fact, those things produce the income the companies need to proceed with EV introductions, Carbon credits, and fees for not selling more EVs. Musk’s Tesla made a bundle collecting fees that came from the high prices of pick-up trucks and fancy SUVs.
Automobiles are a huge waste of resources for the majority of people
For many, an automobile = freedom. e.g. in the UK, this can mean having the freedom to travel when the train drivers are on strike.
The UK train drivers have announced strikes for May 7th, 8th and 9th 2024
Freedom is a huge waste of resources for the majority of people.
Fixed it.
Individuals decide for themselves what is “a huge waste of resources.” Third parties don’t get to decide, except in totalitarian states. But the totalitarian state doesn’t need a reason. So Tucker’s comment can be contracted to, “You can’t have nice things, because I say so.”
This is what happens when governments kow tow to Marxist ideology and try to force markets. The manufacturers where told, actually forced with legislation, to adopt EVs or be pushed out of business. They listened because they had to, not because they wanted to. Now they are left holding the bag. Welcome to our brave new world.
I expect the European manufacturers will be lobbying for large import duties on Chinese supplied evs and keeping their fingers crossed that when fines on all ices reaches £15K/vehicle (2030 onwards or sooner) their customers will reluctantly accept their evs. However, if evs by 2030 are still having weight, battery, range, insurance and explosion issues then the government may well need to increase the 15K fine and increase the ved on ices each year until there are no ices left on the roads.
Any government can force through the transition from ices to evs it just has to be far left enough.
I feel the actual intent is to end private transport for the general public. Get us to use public transport, ride-share or rent on an as-need basis. All of which will result in us not going very far very often. Substantially reduce personal travel.
15-minute cities anyone? This would be an example of the WEF comment about how, in the future, we wouldn’t own anything but be happy. Homes never owned but rented from large corporations, and, later, carehomes run by the government. They could even kick us out if larger homes when our kids left, we got divorced or widowed ir they decided we were too informed to maintain “their” home.
I feel we look at these issues too narrowly and assess them on their own “logic”. I feel they are part of a bigger crackdown on energy and resource use by the general population. the background concept is that there isn’t enough 1st workd lifestyle for everyone, but there is for the powerful, governing, “worthy” elite if they can, by stealth, convince us that less will be more.
Asset accumulation will be stopped because we won’t “need” it to be secure when we’re old. Maybe we’ll only travel digitally through AI, and told its just as good but much cheaper, safer, lower carbon footprint and amenable to individual interests – in other words, better. Mostly better, however, for the elites who continue their premiere lifestyle of toys, travels and pleasures.
Really: do you see any Climate Change proposals that hinder the lives of top politicians, CEOs or aristocrats?
I feel the actual intent is to end private transport for the general public. Get us to use public transport, ride-share or rent on an as-need basis. All of which will result in us not going very far very often. Substantially reduce personal travel.
15-minute cities anyone? This would be an example of the WEF comment about how, in the future, we wouldn’t own anything but be happy. Homes never owned but rented from large corporations, and, later, carehomes run by the government. They could even kick us out if larger homes when our kids left, we got divorced or widowed ir they decided we were too infirmed to maintain “their” home.
I feel we look at these issues too narrowly and assess them on their own “logic”. I feel they are part of a bigger crackdown on energy and resource use by the general population. The background concept is that there isn’t enough 1st workd lifestyle for everyone, but there is for the powerful, governing, “worthy” elite if they can, by stealth, convince us that less will be more.
Asset accumulation will be stopped because we won’t “need” it to be secure when we’re old. Maybe we’ll only travel digitally through AI, and told its just as good but much cheaper, safer, lower carbon footprint and amenable to individual interests – in other words, better. Mostly better, however, for the elites who continue their premiere lifestyle of toys, travels and pleasures.
Really: do you see any Climate Change proposals that hinder the lives of top politicians, CEOs or aristocrats?
You give them too much credit. They want to end private transport. Period. They have no interest beyond that.