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BBC Did Change Their Temperature Colours

May 3, 2024
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By Paul Homewood

 

I now have proof that the BBC lied about changing the colours on their weather maps:

 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/66293839

Let’s first check out today’s weather forecast:

 

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Note how 12C is coloured bright yellow; this colour is used for 11C to 12C according to the BBC chart.

Now contrast with this Michael Fish forecast for Christmas 1998, in the runup to the Boxing Day storm.

The same 11 to 12C temperatures were depicted in green:

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https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/12/31/the-boxing-day-storm-of-1998/

The new maps may have greater local detail, but the quite blatant colour change has nothing to do with that, nor the pathetic excuse about people with visual impairments.

Their claim that there have been no changes since 2017 is a palpable lie.

45 Comments
  1. Bill Hayter permalink
    May 3, 2024 10:48 am

    I don’t follow your argument – the BBC say they have not changed their colours since 2017 and you refute this by showing the colours of 1998. What were the colours in 2017? Bill

    • Chris Phillips permalink
      May 3, 2024 11:29 am

      But this is typical BBC obfuscation. They were asked if they’d had changed the map colours and they answered “no, the map colours have not changed since 2017”.

      This may be true but doesn’t answer the question and obscures the fact that they HAVE ver time changed the colours to be more alarmist.

    • May 3, 2024 11:57 am

      Their article is ambiguous.

      Are they saying they did change the colouring in 2017? If they did they are admitting the criticism is right.

      Or are they saying they only made the graphics clearer then, which is what the article states?

      Either way, they did change colour schemes at some stage, and are being deceitful in covering it up.

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        May 3, 2024 6:13 pm

        I think their statement quite clearly admits they changed the colours in 2017.

  2. terryfwall permalink
    May 3, 2024 11:00 am

    Bill just beat me to it. The only real discrepancy I can see, when clicking on the BBC link to the detail, is that the 1990s colours for Rangoon and Beijing (28-30C) are almost identical to the current colour coding chart for 19-20C!

    I think I would question the “colour blindness” justification. The most common issue I have heard of is red/green differentiation, yet they have green and red on either side of the moderate yellow temperatures, though not many people would confuse 10C with 25C, I suppose, unless they were flying in from abroad.

  3. May 3, 2024 11:17 am

    The weather maps should reflect the declared inaccuracy of the measuring equipment i.e. plus/minus 5° C

  4. Martin Brumby permalink
    May 3, 2024 11:18 am

    They also used to have little smiling suns indicating good weather.

    Whatever happened to “good” weather?

    • Chris Phillips permalink
      May 3, 2024 11:32 am

      According to the climate catastrophists there is now no such thing as good weather. Hot or cold, wet or dry, rain or shine, it’s all incontrovertible evidence of the “climate crisis”. And the BBC seems to think its mission is to scare us all daily about this myth.

      • Chaswarnertoo permalink
        May 3, 2024 1:10 pm

        It’s climate breakdown, now, you bigot.

  5. saighdear permalink
    May 3, 2024 11:21 am

    Well, I still say : Huh color temp contours be-damned. Like the hockey stick rainbow colors ( Ohp, sorry – that’s Shinty with the colored tape) the contours should be to a BS Standard and not be changed on the fly. … And it DOES seem to be on the fly: One day it’s BLUE ( when there’s no snow / ice related temperatures) then its back to Green(s) and suddenly its Orange / Reds … and it wasn’t even summer.
    Ohhhhhh! Ahso! It is RELATIVE temperatures! Why didn’t they say that !  Like the stupid yellow and AMBER and Red warnings … which are way off the mark, even non existent up here when we get worse than the previous Amber warnings, etc etc etc.  Just saying!
    And where’s the wind these days ? Only to be seen 10 minutes before a downpour – and then some – enough to do damage / cause mayhem in the gusts. 6 GWs eh? enough for how many households? OHHHHH AH SEEE .. not for all these houses total needs – only for a PART of their energy needs – the rest is supplied by other means….. Oh, you mean JUST for their Lighting and watching the bbc ? 
    Huh, what a joke,  NO ? Oh! “the BBC Pension funds” in there somewhere ….ahhhhh explains it all.

  6. It doesn't add up... permalink
    May 3, 2024 1:37 pm

    Confirmation that your heat pump will be controlled by the government.

    New proposals set out in a consultation today will introduce minimum requirements for cyber security and grid stability, and minimum product standards for energy smart appliances to give consumers confidence to take up smart devices and make it easier for them to benefit from cheaper bills. Electric heating appliances with the greatest flexibility potential – like heat pumps – could also be required to have smart functionality.

    It’s a very stupid idea. If the government switches off your heat pump you will have to run you electric fire to compensate, consuming 3 times as much electricity….

    Oops!

  7. Harry Davidson permalink
    May 3, 2024 2:03 pm

    If you want to be sure of the truth, you could ask BBC Verify to check it?

    • Gamecock permalink
      May 3, 2024 2:13 pm

      BBC Verify is run by Dr Tarr and Professor Fether.

      • May 3, 2024 3:13 pm

        That’s very good indeed GC!

        “It’s a wise thing if you’re clever”

    • frankobaysio permalink
      May 3, 2024 2:18 pm

      BBC Verify, employing apparently 60 people, don’t check the validity of BBC statements, come on, just their competitors like GB News who they are, in conjunction with Ofcom, trying to close down. Doubtful. Check the Podcast Thursday last week 11.30 pm on BBC Sounds with Nick Robinson and the CEO of Ofcom ……

      • col1664 permalink
        May 4, 2024 7:43 am

        Gamecock / Ray Sanders, all this talk of a climate crisis is simply a mystery of tales and imagination.

  8. It doesn't add up... permalink
    May 3, 2024 2:45 pm

    The court seems to think that Net Zero is feasible.

    Someone should tell them uf isn’t.

    The UK Government faced a setback as the High Court ruled against its climate plans.

    The decision followed legal challenges by environmental groups, including Friends of the Earth, ClientEarth and Good Law Project, citing inadequate evidence of feasibility.

    On Friday, the High Court mandated the government to revise its plan.

    https://www.energylivenews.com/2024/05/03/uk-government-loses-high-court-battle-over-climate-plans/

    • May 4, 2024 7:55 am

      ^^

      From the “Energy Live News” article, so presumably the opinion of the editor / publisher:

      Net zero is a way to cut your costs and help the planet

      There must be a formal way to challenge these continuing unsupportable statements (and similar) that does not require ££££ of personal expenditure

  9. May 3, 2024 2:50 pm

    “… because of improvements in forcasting …”

    Ok … Today, the accuracy of a weather forecast is acceptable within 100h. Back in the 1980’s it was 100h. What has improved?

  10. John Bowman permalink
    May 3, 2024 3:54 pm

    Entirely unconnected, by sheer coincidence the transition to redder, hotter colours is occurring in other Countries like Germany and France.

    Like I said, just coincidence. 

  11. Gamecock permalink
    May 3, 2024 4:00 pm

    Folks, 33.8% of the color spectrum is RED.

    Get over it.

    • Gamecock permalink
      May 3, 2024 4:08 pm

      BBC has picked – apparently arbitrarily – a temperature range of -22 to 41, a range of 63 degrees. 33.8% of 63 is 21 degrees, EXACTLY what BBC shows in red.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 3, 2024 6:18 pm

      I’m assuming this is a joke, as the assignment of a colour to a portion of the spectrum is entirely arbitrary? Indeed, many cultures had no words for some colours until very recently e.g. the Japanese and green.

      • Gamecock permalink
        May 3, 2024 6:42 pm

        Wut?

        Light of specific wavelengths have specific colors. For example, light of 625-750 nm appears red.

      • May 4, 2024 12:14 am

        “midori”
        There was a popular myth that the ancient Greeks had no word for blue
        I believe in Japanese the bit of the spectrum we call green and blue they used to use one word for
        but within the spectrum they have different words for what we would call different shades of green
        https://nihonshock.com/2014/06/advanced-japanese-colors/

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        May 4, 2024 8:42 am

        Gamecock, its a spectrum. “Red” is a human designation, not Physics.

      • Gamecock permalink
        May 4, 2024 11:15 am

        “Human” is a human designation.

      • Gamecock permalink
        May 4, 2024 11:44 am

        Most of BBC’s audience is human, so it works out.

      • dave permalink
        May 5, 2024 9:30 am

        It is correct to say that a single pure light with a wavelength of 700 nm reaching the eye will produce a sensation in a normal nervous system of “red.” It is not correct to say that a sensation in the brain of “red” necessarily means your eye is receiving ANY light of that wavelength. Most lights are mixtures and our optical apparatus interprets them in complex ways. For example, a mixture of ultraviolet (which you cannot actually perceive on its own) and purple will also produce the sensation “red.” This is the principle of “additive mixing of colours” (Red, Green, Yellow). This actually is a mistaken description, since “colours” refer to subjective sensations, while what is mixed before reaching the eye is physical objective light.

        There is also “subtractive mixing of colours” (Magenta, Yellow, Cyan – approximately Red, Yellow, Blue). This has to be understood as a way of producing additive mixing, using reflected light.

        It is a complete mistake to thing that the retina has separate receptors for lights of different wavelengths. All the receptors respond to visible light but with different responsivities. The optic nerves leading from the retina “encode” the whole effect and the brain processes this code further and the result is (somehow!) a sensation.

        As for the BBC, yellow and black and red are the “scary” colours typical of our natural enemies such as wasps and lions. THAT is the sole reason the propagandists use them. Any fule kno that!

  12. glenartney permalink
    May 3, 2024 7:54 pm

    The BBC made an interesting choice of picture to illustrate this story.

    Government defeated in High Court over climate plans

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-68947242

    • May 3, 2024 10:46 pm

      @Glenarneyinteresting that that is the web version of story I mention
      however the web version doesn’t use cooling towers
      it just uses a deceptive backlit pic of smokestack chimneys

      • glenartney permalink
        May 3, 2024 11:28 pm

        I was thinking that a picture of a power station on a windless day was an odd choice for a story involving plans fir decarbonisation.

    • May 4, 2024 11:46 am

      The BBC made an interesting choice of picture to illustrate this story.

      Some comments from sceptics on the BBC website; it will be interesting to see if the scepticism is censored.

  13. May 3, 2024 10:10 pm

    Paul, BiasedBBC commenters alerted me , that BBC News have once again broken Editorial Guidelines by CHOOSING to insert a PRtrickery photo of backlit cooling towers on the thumbnail to their new YouTube video.
    The actual news item didn’t feature any cooling tower footage
    Such news breaches are against Ofcom rules.

    • glenartney permalink
      May 3, 2024 11:30 pm

      Good luck if you complain to Ofcom. 9 of the 13 members of the Ofcom Content Board responsible for overseeing the BBC’s impartiality are ex-BBC employees

      • May 4, 2024 12:01 am

        You can’t complain to Ofcom about the BBC anyway, until you have exhausted the entire BBC internal complaints procedure

      • glenartney permalink
        May 4, 2024 6:20 am

        I know and it is equally futile, unless you consider that dripping water penetrates the stone.

  14. May 4, 2024 9:46 am

    A huge 300 tonne new Wärtsilä gas engine has just been delivered to Brigg Power Station.
    Not the straw one, but the Centrica 50MW gas fast start grid balancing, that’s next door.
    Since it opened in 2018, why is a new engine being delivered?
    Have they bust one already or is it expansion ?
    Since October 2023 they’ve been testing injecting hydrogen into the gas mix.

    2017 PR
    “The 50 MW Wärtsilä-built plant in Brigg will balance the stability of the grid
    That plant has five, Wartsila 20V34SG engines that can go from start to full load in less than two minutes”

    The engine is so big, the village road has to be closed as the engine is 25ft wide and will be parked on the road for 3 days.

    • May 4, 2024 10:58 am

      start to full load in less than two minutes”

      Is that quick enough to stabilise the grid after a frequency “dip” ? I suppose that the answer is “how quickly is the frequency falling? ”

      • May 4, 2024 3:25 pm

        Is that quick enough … ?

        I thought I’d replied to myself, but no text visible. It will take me a while to reassemble my reply to myself, so I’ll summarise:

        The 34SG’s time from cold to full load and synchronised is stated as 10 minutes by the manufacturer.

        On 10 January 2019, the frequency of the European grid dropped markedly in approx three minutes, leading to substantial emergency load shedding in continental Europe. The 34SG might have been useful from a warm start in this situation, but far too slow from a cold start.

      • May 5, 2024 10:59 am

        34SG start time from cold = 10 minutes, as stated by the manufacturer, page 3 of 6 on this pdf https://cdn.wartsila.com/docs/default-source/articles-files/in-detail—defining-true-flexibility.pdf?sfvrsn=0 , although the design does offer pre-heating of coolant and pre-lubrication of bearings to speed up the starting process.

        Graph of a frequency dip during a 2.5 minute period on 10th January 2019 on this webpage https://www.next-kraftwerke.com/energy-blog/who-is-disrupting-the-utility-frequency

        As posted previously by several on here, the inertia response offered by the traditional design of synchronised steam-powered turbo-alternators is a more efficient means to manage frequency dips.

        A graph to show a typical traditional inertia response to a frequency dip, the response is almost immediately effective.

        PFR = primary frequency response; typically, this used to be provided by the governor operation of a steam-powered turbo-alternator, followed by Dinorwig. Other posters will have greater, more up-to-date knowledge of this.

  15. May 4, 2024 12:35 pm

    Ricky Gervais with the message that star actors are the true ecological gurus

    • lordelate permalink
      May 4, 2024 1:42 pm

      Sums it all up.

  16. lordelate permalink
    May 4, 2024 1:40 pm

    My favorite weather report was from the ‘Fast Show’.

    Scorchio!🌞.

  17. May 5, 2024 6:18 pm

    Telegraph: The BBC’s confusing weather forecast is nothing new – but AI could change everything

    The broadcaster’s colour-coded map bewildered viewers this week, but – as history shows – forecasting has never been a precise science – 3 May 2024 

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2024/05/03/bbcs-confusing-weather-forecast-colour-scheme/

    The headline story is mostly an excuse for an article on the past, present and future of weather forecasting in general.

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