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Net Zero Watch calls on energy minister to come clean about renewables costs

May 17, 2024

By Paul Homewood

 

Net Zero Watch has called on Lord Callanan to come clean about the costs of renewable energy. The demand came after the minister’s refusal to address a question posed by Lord Frost in the House of Lords.

In oral questions on Thursday, Lord Frost noted Whitehall claims that renewables are half the cost of gas-fired electricity, and asked for an explanation of why subsidies were still required, and why the strike prices on offer to windfarms this year are twice what Lord Callanan says they need to make a profit. As Hansard shows, Lord Callanan failed to answer the question, simply reiterating his false claims about levelized costs.[i]

Net Zero Watch director Andrew Montford said:

If wind power is as cheap as Lord Callanan claims, then no subsidies are necessary. He can’t have it both ways. It’s painfully obvious that he is trying to hide the truth from the public. This can’t go on.

During the subsequent discussion, Lord Callanan told Lord Howell that the levelised cost figures he was quoting “take account of other system costs”.[ii] This is incorrect.

Notes

[i] https://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?id=2024-05-16a.685.0

[ii] https://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?id=2024-05-16a.684.4#g687.0

21 Comments
  1. saighdear permalink
    May 17, 2024 3:14 pm

    Aye it seems, for sure, Wash it’s hands of it. (” It ” can be what it likes). IOW Clear out! and BTW , ..WHERE’s the wind today ? AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & AGAIN & Again ….. All the batteries are sure to be flat now, Sumitomo is dredging new canals for the currents of food ….. … not exactly Main/frontline news for supposedly such a BIG DEAL eh ? But maybe the Nigg-ers there will be happy

  2. May 17, 2024 4:08 pm

    That’ll be the day.

  3. John Hultquist permalink
    May 17, 2024 4:09 pm

    Hansard = The text of many parliamentary debates

    Answer to a question by a colonist of the western edge of North America. 

  4. liardetg permalink
    May 17, 2024 5:04 pm

    What is Callanan behind that moniker? He’s either incompetent or a liar.

    • catweazle666 permalink
      May 17, 2024 10:07 pm

      Both, and then some.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 18, 2024 7:47 am

      No, he’s a politician. So he tows the line, and the line us wind is cheap. He knows its not true, he knows many of us know its not true, but so what? I can’t recall a claim made by any politician in the last five years about anything that was true.

      • gezza1298 permalink
        May 18, 2024 10:13 pm

        And they scratch their heads wondering why nobody trusts them and election turnout is so low.

  5. glenartney permalink
    May 17, 2024 5:28 pm

    The scholars will love it when they don’t get to school.

    A half-million school buses across US could become EV battery powerhouse feeding energy back onto the grid

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/15/half-million-school-buses-in-us-could-be-an-ev-powerhouse-feeding-grid.html

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 18, 2024 7:49 am

      Because by magic supply:demand will be just right to recharge them before 7am…

      • Sean permalink
        May 18, 2024 6:13 pm

        And you’ve got all of that ‘free’ excess solar power available after 10 PM for charging the buses, too…

  6. renewablesbp permalink
    May 17, 2024 5:57 pm

    Tosser.

  7. glenartney permalink
    May 17, 2024 6:10 pm

    This is all very well but how can you charge 10 in parallel?

    China develops revolutionary electric car battery that can charge in 10 minutes

    ‘Remarkable’ developments in chemistry allow vehicles to travel 600 miles between charges

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/05/17/china-revolutionary-electric-car-battery-charge-10-minutes/

    • Penda100 permalink
      May 17, 2024 7:12 pm

      depends on how many Uighars are pushing.

  8. It doesn't add up... permalink
    May 17, 2024 11:52 pm

    What retailers are paying to wind farms (excluding other costs of remoteness – more pylons, curtailment and turn-up of alternative generation because of lack of pylons; intermittency – turn up of alternative generation, keeping generation on standby, Capacity Market costs; and curtailment due to surplus supply that appear in network and balancing charges):

    Day Ahead Market prices are typically determined by gas generation, or imports from nuclear (France), hydro (Norway) or coal/co-firing (BritNed). To a small but growing extent they can be set by renewables surpluses.

  9. Phoenix44 permalink
    May 18, 2024 7:38 am

    “Breakthrough in battery technology” is the new “Revolutionary cancer treatment”.

    • Chris Phillips permalink
      May 19, 2024 7:46 pm

      Or “fusion power is just 10 yrs away from providing abundant free energy”

  10. Phoenix44 permalink
    May 18, 2024 7:45 am

    Just for info, European wholesale gas prices are currently around one-tenth of their peak. But that’s still around five times US gas prices. So if fracking were to work in the UK and halved gas pruces here, the cost of gas generation would fall by around 25%.

    Maybe Paul should remind the government about all those forecasts for gas prices from “experts” that claimed prices would never fall?

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      May 18, 2024 9:29 pm

      There isn’t a single US gas price: there are at times quite big regional variations. But if we take Henry Hub as the basis (there will be distribution costs making for higher Citygate prices in almost any US city fed from there – cheapest supply is close to Alberta), it settled on Friday at $2.64/MMBtu, worth about 20.8p/therm, against NBP at 74.27p/therm a factor of just under 3.6.

      You can get an idea of the spread of Citygate prices here:

      https://www3.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_pri_sum_a_EPG0_PG1_DMcf_m.htm

  11. cookieeon permalink
    May 18, 2024 8:47 am

    Steady on. You’ll be asking for a concise statement of the scientific background to MMGW. You know, experiment, observation, process, causation. The end of the climate scam brought about by… debate.

  12. Adam permalink
    May 18, 2024 9:10 am

    Well done and good luck to you …thank you for holding these people to account

  13. christreise permalink
    May 18, 2024 12:03 pm

    Speaking of subsidies. Drax is now (allegedly) commissioning a “wood chip powered cargo vessel” To take woodchips from the DRAX OWNED forests to Japan. How the heck can a power plant that should be running at a loss expend that kind of Capital?

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