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Net Zero Watch says SNP U-turn would leave Labour looking like ‘eco-extremists’

May 28, 2024

By Paul Homewood

 

 

London: 28 May 2024
Net Zero Watch says SNP U-turn would leave Labour looking like ‘eco-extremists’

Campaign group Net Zero Watch has welcomed suggestions that the Scottish National Party might be about to abandon its policy of shutting down the North Sea oilfields. This week, Aberdeen businesses warned that the city faced economic catastrophe if the politicians didn’t come to their senses [1], and the SNP’s Westminster leader, Stephen Flynn, has now hinted at a policy U-turn [2].

Net Zero Watch director Andrew Montford said:

“The UK can’t survive without fossil fuels, and can’t afford to shut down the oil industry and Aberdeen with it. Reversing course is therefore simply pragmatic acceptance of the facts. Labour will now have to follow suit, or risk being seen as impractical Eco-Extremists who are indifferent to human realities.”

In view of the fact that the SNP has already abandoned its decarbonisation target and also appears to be about to abandon its ban on woodburning stoves, Mr Montford continued:

"Net Zero Watch has been warning that the policy of abandoning the North Sea is dangerously misguided. Let’s hope the message is getting through.”

33 Comments
  1. May 28, 2024 5:50 pm

    impractical Eco-Extremists who are indifferent to human realities.”

    In other words, Ed Miliband.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 29, 2024 8:33 am

      Militant is a man made stupid by his own enormous vanity.

  2. dougbrodie1 permalink
    May 28, 2024 6:29 pm

    It’s a lovely thought and it might even happen to spike Labour’s pending rout of the SNP in Scotland.

    It reminds me of the time, after Theresa May’s resignation, when Boris Johnson was fighting for leadership of the Tories. While Mayor of London, Boris was a climate sceptic. I wrote then that the Tories could leave all the other parties out on an ideological limb if they would only reject the “climate change” hoax.

    Alas, Boris realised that his bread was buttered on the side of the globalists’ climate change hoax and here we are today heading for Net Zero economic ruination.

    Will the SNP stick with the globalists? They have done on every major issue so far.

    • May 28, 2024 6:55 pm

      Boris was courting – or married to – a watermelon.

      He thought – if at all – with his gonads.

      Auto

      • glenartney permalink
        May 28, 2024 7:01 pm

        I was thinking something along the lines of an Anne Boleyn strategy.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 29, 2024 8:36 am

      I doubt it. The SNP has failed on every major issue in Scotland. Having higher taxes, worse public services, corruption, crumbling education and absurd culture wars was fine when it looked possible the SNP might gain independence, but now that’s not going to happen, the incompetence matters. SNP voters will never vote Tory so Labour will get their vote. As in England, people are fed up with the ruling party.

  3. May 28, 2024 6:42 pm

    Scottish government to review wood burning stove restrictions

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cneeyej4jy4o

    [There is an election coming up ….]

    “The Scottish government will review a new law that effectively bans wood burning stoves in new build homes. The policy was designed to help reduce air pollution and tackle climate change, but rural communities had called for a rethink.
    “Gillian Martin, the minister for climate action, told Holyrood she would adapt the New Build Heat Standard regulations to suit the differing needs of urban and rural areas. Deputy First Minister Kate Forbes previously said she had concerns about the ban, citing the impact it could have on older people in her Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch constituency.
    “The Conservatives described the announcement as a “screeching u-turn” from the government.
    “The rules had aimed to ensure that heat pumps and heat networks were used instead of oil and gas boilers, or bioenergy sources such as wood and log burning stoves, fire places and firepits.
    “Protestors against the legislation had said they didn’t have access to the main gas supply and relied on log burners for heat during power cuts. Homes that already had the appliances in place were not affected by the new legislation, which took effect from 1 April.”

    There’s more – and some pretty pictures of log fires – at the link.

    Whilst Kate Forbes seems to be a little more switched on to the needs of a rural population, she is still by no means a wholly-sensible polly.
    And there’s an election coming up!
    Who’s a thunk??

    Auto [already written – at Jo Nova]

    • glenartney permalink
      May 28, 2024 7:15 pm

      An interesting person. Not a socialist in the modern sense. Strong views on marriage, gender amongst other things. Also spoken in the Scottish Parliament in Gaelic something I am in favour of happening more often not that I have more than a smattering .

      Hopefully tinged with more than a hint of realism.

    • dougbrodie1 permalink
      May 28, 2024 9:29 pm

      It’s all based on junk science.

  4. Cheshire Red permalink
    May 28, 2024 7:10 pm

    O/T. Has anyone seen this from Tom Nelson’s YT channel?

    David Hilderman BASc tracked and compared measured CO2 from 1960 to the present and found what he says is a remarkable discovery re absorption rates.

    One for the technical-minded folks on here. (:35 onwards for the important part.

    David Hilderman: CO2 Emissions and Atmospheric Levels | Nelson Pod #220 (youtube.com)

    • Cheshire Red permalink
      May 28, 2024 7:11 pm

      9:35 onwards.

    • michael shaw permalink
      May 28, 2024 9:09 pm

      Interesting video, definitely not for committed AGW believers, but short of verifiable truth I thought.

      • Devoncamel permalink
        May 29, 2024 7:55 am

        You could say the same to the alarmists. I thought he was excellent and revealed something that they would rather you didn’t know. There can be no doubt about the increase in greening for a start.

      • michael shaw permalink
        May 29, 2024 9:52 pm

        To DC – I agree the alarmists “proof” is laughably absent but his ‘theory’ would be dynamite if independently verified but of course funding is denied to non-believers. The skewing of academic research towards the ‘accepted line’ will hopefully someday be realised.

  5. Alwaysquestion permalink
    May 28, 2024 8:09 pm

    Ed Milliamp will totally bankrupt this country.

    • gezza1298 permalink
      May 29, 2024 1:03 am

      That won’t take long as the socialist Tories have nearly done that. On a slightly sadistic note it will make for interesting viewing to watch Labour trying to appease all the begging hands held out for taxpayers cash not to mention the demands of their union paymasters – representing only 25% of workers – and deliver their Net Zero fantasies. Plagiarist Reeves has already promised no income or corporation tax rises in 5 years just as their great source of income – VAT on private school fees – is unravelling before they have even implemented it. I can see moves to oust her in the first year if she won’t go on a tax and borrow spree.

  6. John Hultquist permalink
    May 28, 2024 8:32 pm

    Last time I checked the average winter temperature in Scotland was near freezing. Every residence should have two different sources of heat. 97% sure. Prove me wrong!

  7. micda67 permalink
    May 28, 2024 9:20 pm

    All the SNP and other Climate Cultists need to do is show the silent majority who do not believe in Nett/Not Zero that the alternative, high skill, high wage replacement jobs exist- exist in reality not in the febrile minds of the Cult followers- so far we know for a fact that each “Green” job created is costing the taxpayers several hundred thousand a year in subsidies on top of the salaries paid- but as yet, no stand alone, self financing jobs actually have been shown to exist- still time will prove either that the Cult is right or the Skeptics have been proved to be 100% on the money when describing the whole thing as Climate Ponzi scheme where the rich get richer and poor get considerably poorer.

    • May 28, 2024 10:17 pm

      You mentioned the critical word “believe” in your observation. Have you noticed the same people tell you to “believe the science” without understanding what they just said. This is an oxymoron. Science is not a belief system. It is the pursuit of truth a journey not a destination. For their Net Zero scam to have legs, it should be supported by science. It is clearly supported by political “science”!

      For something to qualify as based upon science, a theory/thesis has to be supported by statistically significant empirical data obtained by a repeatable and falsifiable methodology. If there is no data then there is only a claim or theory but there is no science. For all their wrong model building, that is not science because models produce statistical usually in the form of statistically probability. This is not empirical data.

      In respect of the claims, wild claims about CO2 returned to the Carbon Cycle by the actions of man, there exists no statistically significant empirical data of any kind which supports the claim. No data means no science Q.E.D.!

      So what the #¤%&/() are we doing people?

    • dougbrodie1 permalink
      May 28, 2024 10:48 pm

      We don’t have the luxury of waiting for “time to prove” that these nutters are wrong. We are living under a Con/Lab/Lib/SNP Uniparty tyranny. So-called “climate change” is a massive globalist hoax and it’s a waste of time trying to reason with puppet Uniparty politicians. The electorate now has a once-in-many-decades chance to vote them all out of office. People need to stop voting for the treasonous Uniparty:

      https://metatron.substack.com/p/debunking-the-climate-change-hoax

      • gezza1298 permalink
        May 29, 2024 1:06 am

        GBN didn’t have to try too hard to find voters whose view was f*ck the lot of them and not vote.

      • dougbrodie1 permalink
        May 29, 2024 6:47 am

        I didn’t say anything about not voting. And what’s GBN got to do with it? I will vote, but not for the treasonous Uniparty.

      • Chris Phillips permalink
        May 29, 2024 8:07 am

        So who should we vote for to get the Uniparty out of office? I agree we need to get rid of all of the climate zeolots but I don’t see any way of doing so.

      • dougbrodie1 permalink
        May 29, 2024 8:14 am

        Living in Scotland, I have a voting perspective that people in England may not have twigged, namely how the minority SNP separatists keep winning here in Scotland because the tribalist votes for the unionist Con/Lab/Lib parties get split.

        It’s an outside shot but In this UK GE, it is theoretically possible to mimic what happens here with the SNP if constituencies can somehow organise themselves to focus their votes on a single anti-Uniparty candidate who could then sneak through because the Con/Lab/Lib votes get split.

  8. jeremy23846 permalink
    May 28, 2024 9:33 pm

    There’s always the defence of the indefensible in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Scientists are good at that. Look at statins, where in the face of a total lack of any evidence that statins reduce the risk of heart disease in people with healthy hearts, the NHS are still recommending another 15 million take these unnecessary drugs that are known to cause muscle pain and brain fog. Going back a decade or two, when drugs that lowered cholesterol far more effectively than statins were invented, there was no effect on all cause mortality, and they were not used for that purpose. An eminent cardiologist who was asked why statins worked when the newer better drugs didn’t apparently said that it must be because the new drugs lowered cholesterol “in the wrong way.” How long will it be before the eco zealots decide that CO2 has to be lowered “in the right way?”

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      May 29, 2024 12:03 am

      Porridge every day & some grapefruit every week will do you more good than statins & no side effects (unless you are coeliac ).

      Statins damage your immune system (don’t ask how I know !!! ).

      • glenartney permalink
        May 29, 2024 6:29 am

        My standard breakfast some pink grapefruit, created originally by nuclear radiation, and porridge. As a treat a Lidl croissant once or twice a week.

        I’ve been offered stations but always refused.

      • 1saveenergy permalink
        May 29, 2024 7:00 am

        “I’ve been offered stations but always refused.”

        Would you like to buy some bridges or the Eiffel Tower instead ?? (:-))

  9. May 28, 2024 10:03 pm

    These people would sell their own children into slavery if they thought it would win them votes…….Not a moral compass or a useful thought between them….

  10. gezza1298 permalink
    May 29, 2024 1:10 am

    Labour need a strong showing in Scotland to offset the problem they have with the muslim vote no longer on their side over Gaza. If the SNP bounce back it will be another factor in producing a hung parliament. I wonder if Gaza was the reason Sushi went for a July election as it might all be over come November.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 29, 2024 8:24 am

      They really don’t. Latest polling shows them with a majority of 200. And within the margin of error of that polling, the Tories get only 50 seats.

      What’s interesting/annoying is that polling showed the LibDems on 50 seats but with a lower share of the vote than Reform with zero seats.

  11. dave permalink
    May 29, 2024 6:54 am

    A centipede was happy, quite

    Until a toad, in fun,

    Said, ‘Pray which leg goes after which?’

    This raised her doubts to such a pitch

    She fell distracted in the ditch,

    Not knowing how to run.”

    The Establishment does not have the brains of a centipede, and therefore has no doubts at all, as yet. We toads ask them, “Which step in net-zero goes after which?” but the Establishment is not listening. It keeps on running. But, one way or another, we are all going to go into that ditch.

  12. May 29, 2024 10:18 am

    Destroying the fossil fuel economy might sound great to a few idiots … but even they will change their mind when they realise there is no economy to replace it.

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