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No Potatoes, Warns Irish Times

June 2, 2024

By Paul Homewood

I though the British press was bad enough! 

 

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The latest climate change predictions for Ireland – with temperatures no higher than 10 degrees in summer, and as low as -15 in winter – would have a disastrous impact on agriculture. A climate similar to Iceland’s would make it impossible to grow vegetables such as potatoes and carrots, which means that food prices will soar.

The latest research from Irish and international climate experts shows that Europe is warming twice as fast as the global average. The melting Arctic ice is causing sea levels to rise and this disrupts the main Atlantic current that makes Ireland’s climate temperate. Coastal communities are already feeling the impact of extreme weather patterns. Our vulnerability to climate disruption was evident in 2023, the warmest year on record, when a severe marine heatwave caused damaging flash floods.

Last week’s landslide in Papua New Guinea – caused by extraordinary rainfall – killed 2,000 people. Could such a catastrophe happen in Ireland? In February, Dublin was named as one of 36 major cities most at risk from rising sea levels and flooding.

Then there is worsening air turbulence. One person died and more than 70 people were injured recently on a Singapore Airlines flight because of severe air turbulence and just days later 12 people were injured after a flight from Doha to Dublin experienced turbulence. Studies have found that this problem increased by 55 per cent over the North Atlantic between 1979 and 2020.

https://www.irishtimes.com/environment/climate-crisis/2024/06/01/imagine-it-being-impossible-to-grow-potatoes-and-carrots-in-ireland-because-of-climate-change-and-this-would-just-be-the-start/

62 Comments
  1. ThinkingScientist permalink
    June 2, 2024 8:58 am

    Good to that everywhere is still warming twice as fast as the global average…

  2. eromgiw permalink
    June 2, 2024 8:58 am

    When a headline begins, “Imagine…” you know you can safely save your time and not bother with the rest. Pure scaremongering.

    • Gamecock permalink
      June 2, 2024 11:23 am

      It’s easy if you try . . . .

  3. alanhaile permalink
    June 2, 2024 9:03 am

    The article says that melting Arctic ice is causing sea level rise.

    It is sea ice and so, no it isn’t.

    • 1saveenergy permalink
      June 2, 2024 10:16 am

      And the stupid cow who wrote that udder tripe (see what I did there ? ), Prof Fiona Regan is … Director of the DCU Water Institute, yet knows nothing about water !!

      • gezza1298 permalink
        June 2, 2024 11:42 am

        Fiona Regan is Professor in Chemistry at Dublin City University and Director of the DCU Water Institute. Fiona studied Environmental Science and Technology and later completed a PhD in analytical chemisty in 1994. Following postdoctoral research in optical sensing in DCU, in 1996 she took up a lecturing position at Limerick Institute of Technology. In 2002 Fiona joined the School of Chemical Sciences as a lecturer in analytical chemistry, in 2008 she became senior lecturer and in 2009 became the Beaufort Principal Investigator in Marine and Environmental Sensing.
        Fiona’s research focuses on environmental monitoring and she has special interest in priority and emerging contaminants as well as the establishment of decision support tools for environmental monitoring using novel technologies and data management tools. Her work includes the areas of separations and sensors (including microfluidics), materials for sensing and antifouling applications on aquatic deployed systems.
         

        Hands up anyone who is surprised to find that she doesn’t have any relevant qualifications? And the spelling mistake of ‘chemisty’ is on their website.

    • June 3, 2024 8:34 am

      Gezza1298. The Cpelinmisteak is possibly down to a DEI hiring policy where ability no longer plays a role in their hiring process. Now, not everyone is perfect at spelling but the lack of checking before publishing is concerning. The National Trust bless it, obsessed with DEI as it is, even has the effrontery to double down and defend the cpilinmisteaks and bad grammar of their DEI hires as somehow positive because we all know this is enriching our kulcha, innit.

  4. Martin Brumby permalink
    June 2, 2024 9:21 am

    Time to trot out all the old Irish jokes?

    Best loved by the Irish themselves.

    The Churnalists who printed this balderdash are like Father Jack, but on something stronger.

    • Nigel Sherratt permalink
      June 2, 2024 11:37 am

      “I hear you’re a climate catastrophist now Father”

      • June 2, 2024 1:57 pm

        “Yes, you can put your carbon indulgences in the collection box over there.”

  5. Barbara Fenney permalink
    June 2, 2024 9:27 am

    50+ years ago they were telling us that in 50 years time it would be warm enough for vineyards in the north west of England. 50 years on it’s still as cold, wet and windy as ever. And when are we going to get a decent summer? I think 2003 was the last one. Okay we may get the occasional dry spell, but that is mostly due to moderate to strong freezing cold and drying east or north-easterly winds. They don’t seem to ask those who remember the wet old days! ________________________________

    • gezza1298 permalink
      June 2, 2024 11:37 am

      First of June yesterday – first month of summer. Up early and heard a click from the thermostat – yep, had the CH been on it would have kicked in. Returning to my van in the hospital car park, the wind was blowing hard and cold. Global warming?

      • 1saveenergy permalink
        June 2, 2024 3:20 pm

        “Global warming?”

        No, the head of the UN said last year “Global warming is over, we’ve moved to ‘Global Boiling’

        Keep up !!

    • June 2, 2024 10:17 pm

      Well Barbara, according to the Met Office it is getting much warmer in the North West when measured at this weather station in Carlisle.

      https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.9347799,-2.9639696,3a,37.5y,152.34h,88.73t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sVLoAmQA1C9681e_QosZqWg!2e0!5s20090401T000000!7i13312!8i6656?coh=205409&entry=ttu

      It must be true because this is the lowest possible standard site, (just off Crindledyke lane by the M6) by the oil storage tanks, in front of the waste bins by the care home and the car park. Can’t possibly be wrong….can it?

      • glenartney permalink
        June 3, 2024 9:52 am

        Ray

        Thanks for the information on the other thread.

  6. saighdear permalink
    June 2, 2024 10:16 am

    Avoch …. awa ye go! Isn’t Ireland part of Europe ? According to some usual German Enviro Pseudo scientific problem ( I meant PROGRAM) Europe was heating up faster than any other COuntry …..
    As for the topic, well, I’ve been saying this quite often over past few years… maybe some truth in the headline. If we had to rely on our Fruit, the Birds are taking the first and major Cut: what do they ( M Nature) know that we can’t see ?For all the magnificent blossom this year on Apples Pears Plums Cherries & apricots, there is very little fruit hanging this now – apples may be doing best but lack of rain since the wet winter means there could be a large JuneDrop. As for the Tatties, well, even the Large MonoScale Producer scooping up the land here and terrorising the Earthworms ( hint) & Soil structure by destoning – we have Thousands of Miles of General SolanTuberum Roads going nowhere in a Maze formation across the country, encouraging rapid drainage out of the fields!
    So what does all this have to do with CLimate change / Food Security ? …. Another run on the Toilet Tissue stocks ? As for weather forecasting :German TV tells us today that they had Severe Flooding in Southern Germany ( where exactly they didn’t elucidate ) due to a COLD Northerly airstream over the N Sea ( already) meeting up with a hot Med airflow …. Well, that doesn’t match up with the way the weather has been forecast for us: WE had >22C yesterday all afternoon and a warm evening dropping down to 6C but NOW we have a COLD CHILL Airflow, when it should be coming on Wednesday … It is Sunday, innit ?

  7. June 2, 2024 10:25 am

    Climate Change is a term without meaning certainly in the minds of Arts graduates. Because of that they can weave any fanciful stupidity they like around the term and no one will challenge them let alone suggest they would be better employed flipping burgers, which have of course to be vegan, that other bit of dangerous asininity which has found common cause as part of the Klymytt family of civilization wrecking .

  8. Cheshire Red permalink
    June 2, 2024 10:55 am

    Never mind just kissing it, the Irish Times author of this fantasy piece seems to have spent an entire weekend with the Blarney stone. I hope they had a good time together.

  9. Phil O'Sophical permalink
    June 2, 2024 11:23 am

    Studies [what studies? – no reference] have found that this problem increased by 55 per cent over the North Atlantic between 1979 and 2020.

    Except there has been no increase as Jo Nova pointed out yesterday with an inconvenient graph.

    https://joannenova.com.au/2024/05/if-climate-change-is-making-turbulence-worse-pilots-and-planes-havent-noticed/

  10. Gamecock permalink
    June 2, 2024 11:38 am

    Our decarbonisation efforts need to be scaled up, and, with the predicted changes to our weather conditions, our adaptation plans. We must stop burning fossil fuels and make the transition to renewable energy sources. But there is one big problem: China.

    Fixed it.

  11. lordelate permalink
    June 2, 2024 11:41 am

    Even IF weather patterns/ climate/ temperature did change across regions, we would just grow crops in different places ,no?

    We have adapted to change for the last 2/300 000 years after all.

    • saighdear permalink
      June 2, 2024 12:34 pm

      DunNO ! Well you could try as in the Canaries: Grow tatties in GRAVEL halfway up Nevis or Snowdon Not much else in Scotland- our hills are not like the Green Hills of Tyrol. Hmmm Yes, Alpine farming – what went wrong in Scotland Generations ago that nobody farmed / existed like that, then or NOW . instead we choose to build on Arable Land – that which was cleared with the Blood, Sweat and Tears of our forefathers. SHAME on US for continuing to abuse the land we live on. … Haven’t we heard that Sentiment somewhere before – but in a different context ?

  12. Gamecock permalink
    June 2, 2024 11:43 am

    Who needs science when you have damaging flash floods and landslides?

    Where would climate science be without sob stories?

  13. gezza1298 permalink
    June 2, 2024 11:45 am

    And no doubt the Irish Times makes the claim like other versions that it is ‘the journal of record’.

    • June 2, 2024 4:47 pm

      The broken record of climate whingeing.

  14. June 2, 2024 12:19 pm

    Growing up in the fifties in Hull with an outside “lavvie”, most homes didn’t buy “toilet tissue”. We cut up squares of old newspaper and hung on string off the high level “clunk, clank” cistern. {the Hull Daily Mail was printed on green paper so could give some alarming results at times when used this way!}

    I always remember my mum once saying about a newspaper she didn’t like that it “wasn’t worth wrapping chips in”. To which my dad replied or “wiping out the “aftermath” of eating them”

    I would put the Irish Times in this worthless category.

  15. Derek T permalink
    June 2, 2024 12:22 pm

    According to this lot: EPA Climate Ireland | Future Climate of Ireland

    their prediction is for Ireland to carry on warming, so the spuds should continue to be fine.

  16. John Bowman permalink
    June 2, 2024 12:25 pm

    ”… with temperatures no higher than 10 degrees in summer, and as low as -15 in winter…”

    ”… shows that Europe is warming twice as fast as the global average.

    Aren’t these contradictory statements?

    Potatoes didn’t arrive until the 16th Century – what did Ireland do before then?

    Oranges and lemons don’t grow in Ireland – is there a shortage?

    If only we had global trade where we could buy stuff from a variety of places and climate zones.

  17. JohnAM permalink
    June 2, 2024 1:43 pm

    I have lived in Scotland, a little North of Oban; various places in England and Wales; and now in Western France (The same latitude as La Rochelle, but 100km inland). In all places I have grown potatoes, peas, beans, root crops, etc. One has to choose the variety, but they all grow well.

    This report is piffle.

    • Newminster permalink
      June 3, 2024 1:33 pm

      I was never further north than Edinburgh except for a 6-month secondment to Aberdeen (during the winter, needless to say!) and now live in southern Burgundy.

      Like you I have grown all the ‘standard’ vegetables and the only things I find problematic here are runner beans and summer-fruiting raspberries. There is the added benefit of being able (reliably) to grow salad vegetables out of doors and the obvious melons, aubergines and sweet corn which would struggle in Scotland.

      I might add that this year has the makings of a first class disaster unless there is an improvement in the weather very shortly. At least half the farmland in the area was under water for much of May and we have recorded a string of below average temperatures from March onwards.
      The culprit is, presumably, Hunga Tonga’s water vapour returning to earth since it patently is not global warming!

  18. Gamecock permalink
    June 2, 2024 1:58 pm

    UK emits 0.884% of human CO2 emissions, 0.03536% of global emissions.

    Ireland emits 0.098% of human CO2 emissions, 0.00392% of global emissions.

    As citizens we need to recognise that our daily actions, consumption, behaviour has an impact not only on us, but on Ireland and the world.

    We must stop burning fossil fuels and make the transition to renewable energy sources.

    The government is stuck on stupid. And . . .

    “You can’t fix stupid.” — Ron White

  19. tomo permalink
    June 2, 2024 2:28 pm

    Guinness to go green as present colour is racial appropriation?

  20. Tim Spence permalink
    June 2, 2024 2:30 pm

    These are not the words of a demented, hysterical alarmist. This is carefully loaded, repeat and rinse stuff. I know the news organizations are cash strapped but shame on any that take money i.e. taxpayers money, to print tripe like this as editorial.

    (2nd attempt)

  21. dearieme permalink
    June 2, 2024 3:18 pm

    My Irish grandfather used to say that all Irish history is lies. It seems to be true of Irish future histories too.

  22. Vanessa Crichton permalink
    June 2, 2024 3:47 pm

    Shame some basic English words cannot be spelt properly on this site??!! Why doesn’t anyone read through their “replies” to make sure they make sense ?? Just laziness !!!

    • Gamecock permalink
      June 2, 2024 4:48 pm

      Or Scottish lilt.

    • June 2, 2024 7:35 pm

      You’ve lost me on that one. There is only one word that I know of that can be spelled “properly” so every other word simply cannot be spelled “properly”.

      Can you be more specific in your “shaming” please or are you just being lazy?

      • Gamecock permalink
        June 2, 2024 9:29 pm

        I don’t think she’s been introduced to saighdear.

      • glenartney permalink
        June 3, 2024 5:00 pm

        Ah the soldier

        He’s using one of the languages of his country. If that upsets people then that’s their problem. The attempts of 19th century politicians to eradicate the Celtic languages and non-south of England English still have supporters.

  23. John Hultquist permalink
    June 2, 2024 3:59 pm

    I’m not an expert, but Dublin appears to be mostly 10 feet (3,000 mm) and multiples thereof above local sea level. Say rise could be about 3mm per year. (That’s likely a bit high.) My long-division skill is a bit rusty, but I make sea flooding to become a problem in a thousand years. That many years ago, a unified Kingdom of England was developing out of the various Anglo-Saxon units. I guess I’ll pass on the panic implied by this report.

    • Curious George permalink
      June 2, 2024 4:20 pm

      They are planning in the long term. RCP 8.5 projects an accelerated sea level rise. They may have only 250 years to react.

    • Gamecock permalink
      June 2, 2024 4:49 pm

      Tens of thousands will drown.

  24. jackminnock permalink
    June 2, 2024 4:01 pm

    This article reminds me of the old joke.

    Jesuuuus I’ve just cut my ear off and can’t find, Paddy yelled.

    Mick says, I’ll find it, here it is Paddy.

    No No, replied Paddy, that’s not my ear,

    How’s that queried Mick.

    Mine had a pencil behind it…

  25. Gamecock permalink
    June 2, 2024 6:51 pm

    Are the Irish going to blame the English again?

  26. Phoenix44 permalink
    June 2, 2024 8:00 pm

    So where is warming at half the global average?

    • Gamecock permalink
      June 2, 2024 9:31 pm

      No where, silly rabbit. Everywhere on earth is warming Twice as Fast as everywhere else. It’s science.

  27. rogerrankincrookbigpondcomau permalink
    June 3, 2024 6:26 am

    We have the same hysteria in Australia. We are 1% of global emissions China is 35% and rising year by year. We are going broke try to achieve net zero and it is and will make no difference to the world’s climate, even if I did believe in AGW, which I don’t. There is madness afoot.

  28. Iain Reid permalink
    June 3, 2024 8:17 am

    Typically in such articles the ‘experts’ are never identified or a link to their research paper.

  29. June 3, 2024 8:57 am

    For the associated Degrothers, JSO, XE and Trannies for klymutt action masochists, do not worry your pretty little heads. The second part of the current Ice Age is on it’s way, and my you will be “impressed”.

    As Douglas Murray points out, it is fine acting out all these fashionable masochistic fantasies, until the day you meet a real sadist.

  30. europeanonion permalink
    June 3, 2024 9:21 am

    Once before in history the Irish over-relied on potatoes and it led to a
    disaster. Perhaps it is necessary for Ireland to move beyond that narrative the weddedness? Nature works in mysterious ways. maybe they are being led towards a banana or kiwi fruit future?. Amazing how their stubborn self-reliance misserves them. They refuse modernity to enable them to regurgitate the old ‘it’s not our fault’ narrative. Fancy that Ireland might be famed for sunshine one day; the junking of all those awful Irish laments and their reliance on dampness and poverty, replace them with calypsos, it could do wonders for their psyche.

  31. Mewswithaview permalink
    June 3, 2024 11:10 am

    There is an election coming up on June 07th for local council and European elections. This is a Green party press release disguised redrafted by Irish Times resident climate alarmist Kevin O’Sullivan.

    Realise that Irish media is a small circle primarily based in Dublin and churnalists move in the same circles as the political class and often become public relations advisors to said ministers or get to sit on quangos. There has been a lot of “news management” in the national media in recent weeks trying to persuade the electorate the coalition government (FF, FG + Greens) are doing something about the increased cost of living, accommodation, hospital overcrowding and inward welfare migration or as the government operated NGOs like to call them “international protection applicants”

    Irelands political selection uses a proportional representation scheme instead of first past the post, this allows many boutique parties and independent representatives to get elected. The boutique parties including the Greens are various woke iterations of Marxism, the largest parties (FF & FG) are woke populists and the largest opposition party, Sinn Fein, are woke national socialist party. The only real opposition is Irish politics comes from individual independent representatives. It is looking like independents may get a higher share of the vote in this election, possibly at the expense of government parties.

    Governing Ireland means having to balance the needs of the golden goose (i.e. multinationals), the EU and the welfare class (both social & corporate). Imagine letting your living room out to a tenant and counting the tenants income as your own, that in a nutshell is Irish GDP. Budget surplus comes from a handful of tax efficient multinationals, who do provide employment here, but they route the income from “intellectual property” through various shell companies. Irish Government spending has been out of control across the board in recent years.

    The EU presents both an opportunity and problem. Irish voters have no autonomy, (they gave it away in various treaties after first voting the wrong way and rejecting them), laws created in Brussels, get rubber stamped by the local parliament (Dáil). With a Green party minister in the department affecting energy, environment and communications and a class of entrepreneur and public serpent that drinks at the taxpayer trough, there is no end of press releases about Ireland to be the “Saudia Arabia of Wind”, The “green hydrogen” wishful thinking and in recent months after the last COP meeting, “carbon capture” is the new buzzword.

    In reality, The Irish establishment is rushing us headlong into an infrastructure crisis, this currently shows up in the price of energy and food. Over the next few years that will translate into employment, food and energy scarcity as a lack of gas (imported from UK via Moffat in Scotland), wind and solar combined with yet more increased carbon taxes and restrictions on oil and gas energy exploration and dumb “green” schemes where farmers are paid to take land out of production (re-wetting land schemes) and harvest subsidies instead of producing food.

    Irish ministers are usually good at balancing the multinationals, EU and welfare class. However, a disconnect has arisen as the political class has implemented policies that the native population has not voted for and increasingly rejects outright, despite their control of the established media outlets, us plebeians are looking for alternatives and not seeing them in the current establishment.

    • June 3, 2024 12:55 pm

      Always assumed MSM news is PRasNews .. unless you are told otherwise
      Churnalists cut&paste PR material from charities, NGOs and their mates.

    • Gamecock permalink
      June 3, 2024 2:07 pm

      Thank you for your analysis.

  32. June 3, 2024 1:08 pm

    O/T today’s PR is “Siemens to build battery electric trains in Google meaning cheaper fuel costs”
    Really ? diesel is relatively cheap
    Batteries mean extra weight ALL the time.

    Anyways greens think transporting trains around the world by truck and ship . Is green

    https://x.com/Basavar40890402/status/1797488595164594532

    • June 3, 2024 1:09 pm

      Auto embed seems to need X.com to be changed to Twitter com

    • June 3, 2024 1:12 pm

      Local BBC is repeating this Siemens press release.
      “Siemens Mobility has calculated that its new battery bi-mode trains could save Britain’s railways £3.5 billion and 12 million tonnes of CO2 over 35 years”

      • Gamecock permalink
        June 3, 2024 2:27 pm

        New battery trains which could replace ageing diesel fleets at a slew of rail companies will save Britain’s struggling railways £3.5bn, new research shows.

        I presume these new trainy things are free, else how could a struggling railway companies buy them? None of the news articles say anything about them costing anything.

        And what kind of dick would quote a savings over THIRTY-FIVE YEARS ?!?!

      • June 3, 2024 3:28 pm

        12m tons! 12m tons?? The atmosphere is 5.75 quadrillion (5,750,000,000 million) tons, so 12m tons wouldn’t even register.

  33. June 3, 2024 1:27 pm

    As commenters have pointed out, the article is labelled as COMMENT and attributed at the end
    “Prof Fiona Regan is Director of the DCU Water Institute”
    DCU tweeted the article twice
    … Got 2 Likes, then 1 Like

    I note the comment about her error saying melting Arctic ice causes sea level rise.

  34. June 3, 2024 6:10 pm

    Skynews CCBGB’d for this
    Met Office say ‘look it was cold, but we reckon clouds meant night were warmer, so we say it was hot’

    • June 3, 2024 6:11 pm

      Sky currently having a bit of a ‘mare today.

      Maybe they should drop the ‘News’ bit?

    • tomo permalink
      June 4, 2024 2:07 pm

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