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How Wet Was The Spring?

June 12, 2024

By Paul Homewood

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  After all the hype about how wet it’s been this spring, and how it’s due to climate change, the actual figures confirm that it has actually been far from unprecedented.

Much wetter were the springs of 1979, 1981 and 1983, all occurring during the period of global cooling, which set in after the 1940s.

More to the point, there are no long term trends to either drier or wetter springs. It’s all just weather:

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Nor has any month been unusually wet:

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27 Comments
  1. June 12, 2024 10:25 am

    Only slightly o/t but I have been invited to have a one to one video conference with this guy.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/karl-shepherdson-5981b6102/?trk=people_directory&originalSubdomain=uk

    here is a bio of him

    https://sites.reading.ac.uk/connected/2021/09/23/the-indisputable-truth/

    It seems the Met Office feels I should be re-educated for having the audacity to question their integrity! ho, ho ,ho.

    Anybody got any specific questions/topics they would like me to include if I can?

    • GeoffB permalink
      June 12, 2024 10:34 am

      Try asking him why the Met Office twist the facts to create a climate

      emergency.

    • Gamecock permalink
      June 12, 2024 10:43 am

      Ask him when the Met Office is going to get back to being a weather service.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      June 12, 2024 11:14 am

      Karl is now a Regional Network Manager for the Met Office, looking after all the weather stations in the north of England.

      I’d plan to attack him on his home turf. Find some plainly inadequate weather stations in his home region and use them to undermine his waffle.

      • Joe Public permalink
        June 12, 2024 6:02 pm

        Great tactic IDAU!

    • gezza1298 permalink
      June 12, 2024 12:28 pm

      Ask how can the Met Office make claims of global warming when their network of weather stations is not fit for purpose.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      June 12, 2024 6:03 pm

      I woukd ask him what the UK temperature trend is using only the highest standard and long-dated sites. And why, if that trend is different from the one they claim, they aren’t sceptical of the different trend.

    • glenartney permalink
      June 12, 2024 6:29 pm

      Good luck Ray, from his bio you might be subjected to an harangue. The first thing I’d tell him if he describes you or anyone as a “climate denier” then he’s lost the argument.

      Apart from the good questions above I’d ask why someone who wants to independently verify the veracity of claimed weather records should face the trials and tribulations of dealing with the Met Office to get the information’ and then be invited to a one to one with a expert.

      It all sounds all very much like re-education in The Ministry Of Love, if I’ve remembered correctly

    • Joe Public permalink
      June 12, 2024 6:35 pm

      Perhaps ask him what the chances were of so many airports / airfields being originally built at the precise locations that *years later* would ‘coincidentally’ enable weather stations to report temperature ‘records’ for their general area / county / country region / month / year etc!

      Ask if he can think of any common factor that enables those specific locations to report higher temperatures than other spots in their locality?

      Acres of concrete maybe? Enormous quantities of fuels being burnt AND *directed downwards* in the immediate locality of thermometers virtually simultaneously with ‘record’ warmth being recorded by multiple planes warming-up, taxi-ing & thrust for take-off AND during reverse-thrust for landing? Busy airports with multiple runways (e.g heat-magnet Heathrow) can have planes simultaneously taking off & landing, so that virtuallydoubles the local heat-energy dumping.

      Apparently:

      1 megajoule = 0.277777778 kilowatt-hour

      The energy density of aviation fuel is generally between 43 and 48 MJ/kg (so say 45.5MJ/kg)

      An A380 would consume 17,250kg for take-off

      https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/105123/airbus-a380-and-boeing-747-fuel-consumption-while-taking-off#:~:text=With%20a%20quite%20good%20approximation,fuel%20during%20the%20climb%20phase.

      If those figures are correct, that’s 218MW *raising* the temperature of localised air *being thrust DOWNWARDS*

      Good luck with your vid conference Ray!

    • vickimh234 permalink
      June 13, 2024 7:23 am

      Why do you use class 4 and 5 weather stations for climate data when they have a WMO 2-5 c?

    • liardetg permalink
      June 13, 2024 9:44 am

      Yes, ask him whether there’s a chance that the Keeling Curve will be checked given ocean outgassing and Asian coal burning. How does this affect the drivelling climate change chapter on the Met Office website?

  2. Citizen K permalink
    June 12, 2024 11:12 am

    Ask him how climate change is responsible for a global rise in quicksand sinkings:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13517075/quicksand-woman-swallowed-beach-husband.html

  3. Artyjoke permalink
    June 12, 2024 12:34 pm

    First graph “Rainfall Amount England Spring” shows a rising trendline?

    • ThinkingScientist permalink
      June 12, 2024 12:41 pm

      Agree. Gentle linear trend upwards with a periodic behaviour superimposed which looks suspiciously like it might relate to AMO, a similar response to what is seen in temps and in glacial retreat data since the LIA.

      And the trend looks similar throughout the record, suggesting it has nothing to do with AGW which would have to be post-1950s to be consistent with IPCC AR5 & AR6

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        June 12, 2024 6:09 pm

        There’s no trend. That’s a random walk. Look at 1860 to 1960 – it’s absolutely trendless. The apparent rise is caused by 3 very wet years, but that’s just a classic random clump. The data then reverts to its previous pattern.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      June 12, 2024 6:05 pm

      No it doesn’t. That’s just a calculation, not a trend. Look at the actual data – it’s clearly trendless. Look at the trend line – it moves up and down all the time.

      The trend line is calculated over far too short a period to be meaningful.

  4. michael shaw permalink
    June 12, 2024 2:56 pm

    Ray : Karl Sheperdson states “the climate does not stop at borders”. So what does he propose in the unlikely situation that the UK actually achieves NZ50 ? A giant geodesic dome over the UK that somehow follows the NI border and that allows rain to enter ? Or shall we just allow “our” CO2 free atmosphere to disperse around the world ? We may currently “lead” in our decarbonisation/deindustrialisation plans but is anybody following ?

    Mr Shepherdson also refers to “key Met Office objectives” but should a supposed observational reporting organisation also have it’s own “objectives” ?. My Regards & Thanks for your efforts.

  5. Phoenix44 permalink
    June 12, 2024 6:11 pm

    Those graphs are about as random.as you could get within a system that has some constraints.

  6. steve permalink
    June 12, 2024 9:38 pm

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cl55ggjqvx7o

    BBC advises that Swiss glaciers are important for European water supply.

    😀

  7. June 12, 2024 9:58 pm

    These Met Office time series graphs are puzzling me. Looking at “summer” and “rainfall” together with UK overall or any particular nation, and 1959 does NOT appear particularly out of the ordinary (or am I mis-reading something?)

    So how come the period from May to September 1959 was reported at the time as outstandingly dry by none other than the Met Office?

    https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/j.1477-8696.1960.tb00655.x#:~:text=The%20most%20settled%20part%20of,no%20measurable%20rain%20at%20all.

    In fact the whole year was quite exceptional but none of it appears to show now in the “official” records.

    https://www.trevorharley.com/1959.html#:~:text=Overall%20cold%20with%20frequent%20fog,but%20dull%20in%20the%20east.

    Psychologist and amateur meteorologist Trevor Harley above equates the year to on a close par with 1976 in many aspects but this just does not show in the records. This makes me think the Met Office “Averages” calculations are quite meaningless (or more likely manipulated) in the real world.

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