June temperatures at half the level of this time last year–Emma Gatten
June 12, 2024
By Paul Homewood
h/t Ian Magness
Silly Emma!!
Temperatures in June 2024 are at half the level of 2023, the Met Office has said, although warmer weather is predicted towards the end of the month.
While London was experiencing 32C (89.6F) a year ago, temperatures were around 16C (60.8F) in the capital on Tuesday. Similarly Cambridge had temperatures of 30.3C (86.5F) on June 11 2023, and 15C (59F) on the same day in 2024.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/06/11/june-temperatures-cold-half-2023-met-office-rain-summer/
As one commenter put it:
Where does the Telegraph get its dreadful reporters from?
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
Global cooling, then…
colloquially known as weather
Thank goodness the planet is on fire and oceans are boiling…………
Global Warming please!, sick to death of having to wear jumpers, coats and face dreary skies, wet/dry/wet daily weather.
Flamin’ June is how June was always described, not Freezing June.
We are on Anglesey & normally turn the Rayburn off mid-ish May; This year it’s still on & 2 nights ago we had to light the log burner.
A lot of the ‘May flowers’ are just starting to bloom, with average leaf growth on trees & shrubs.
All since we entered the era of ‘Glow-ball Boiling’
You’ll probably be glad to keep the Rayburn on. Electricity is cripplingly expensive as an alternative.
Glow-ball Bawling
the Daily Telegraph suggestion that the math prodigy Diane assist in showing that June ‘24 temperatures are different to June ‘23 has resulted in the following results;
June 2024 has a temperature that is 67,987degrees Celsius lower than June 2023, but it is 567,986degrees Celsius higher than June 1624, and we will also have 20,000 more Police costing £3 on the streets the day after July 56th (election, so get your votes ready).
If warm is a term relative to people, then to be ‘scientific’ body temperature would have to be the reference point. 30F would be -68.6 and 60F would be -38.6, which would make it ‘scientifically’ a bit less than two times colder.
But …
“so get your votes ready” ….
I thought that the Blessed Diane, and her differentiation and integration and equalisation [DIE] had ensured that the votes are already in.
Or should I not implicitly believe the BBC News?
Just askin’
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One can only hope that the Met Office quoted ’32C down to 16C’, and the tweenies at the Telegraph interpreted this as ‘halving’. Otherwise science is truly dead.
“This flamin’ June!” is a phrase I always took to mean, “This f*** awful June! But it’s England, innit?”
So this is what living in ‘the era of global boiling’ feels like.
We have gone back to the jetstream pattern that persisted from late
September to mid April – all over the place in the Atlantic, but always
coming ashore between Bristol and Manchester latitudes. And that means
cold/cool wet weather.
The jetstreams have a forecast horizon of about 10 days and things look
like they might improve in about a week, but unless it buggers off up
north as it usually does in the summer we will have a summer of no summer.
Ah, but:
https://news.ucar.edu/132935/jet-stream-winds-will-accelerate-warming-climate
New research by the University of Chicago and the U.S. National Science Foundation National Center for Atmospheric Research (NSF NCAR) finds that fast jet stream winds will get significantly faster by mid century because of climate change.
The study, in Nature Climate Change, suggests that the fastest upper-level jet stream winds will accelerate by about 2% for every degree Celsius (1.8° Fahrenheit) that the world warms. Furthermore, the fastest winds will speed up 2.5 times faster than the average wind.
Faster winds … so the UK will have three seasons – not in a day, but in nineteen hours … thanks to Climate Change [TM] and Global Boiling [TM].
Or have they misconstrued my logical deduction??
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I can remember a summer without a summer when my children were still quite young. So must have been in the mid 1980s. The whole summer was dull and cold until the schools went back in September when it improved and got warmer.
I’m still waiting for some climate disaster as the global temperature has past and been above the 1.5’C for over a year. Whether that happens before it warms up a bit is anyone’s guess
There was ca succession of poor summers 1985 to 1988 inclusive. I remember 1984 as terrible, I had moved house and was trying to get an unkempt garden under control. I wore a heavy donkey jacket working outside through June and July and August. Finished the work and then the weather improved!
One cannot over-estimate the ignorance of correspondents. Unfortunately most of the public and politicians are just as ignorant.
Is it “ignorance of correspondents”, or ‘obedience of correspondents’? I now cannot work out which it is, or both.
I believe the consultants told the media that editors are a waste of money and they can get rid of them.
The Telegraph’s climate articles are cognizant of Gates’ funding.
So you think Gates told her to say ‘half?’
strictly speaking one can only compare temperature changes in this way using an absolute baseline. In this case it only makes sense using the Kelvin scale , so the comparable temperatures are 305 K last year and 289 k this year, in which case the temperature has dropped by 5% and not 50%
anyway in summary, Emma is as thick as pigsh*t and a sad reflection of today’s education system
I came to object to “half”
But I see it is well covered already!
Shouldn’t they have user Fahrenheit?
/sarc
I’m not a member of LinkedIn, and I can’t find any details about Emma Gatten.
Specifically her qualifications, and their relevance to the job of Environment Editor. But hey, the BBC Environment Editor has a degree in PPE, and his predecessor in the post had a degree in English.
Personal Protection Equipment?
What relevance has that got to Environment reporting?
They need it to cope with the flak!
Most of the government is qualified in PPE also !
Yep, this morning’s weather on GB News commenting on the lack of warmth and that with clear skies overnight there is a risk of a frost, even nearly halfway through June and approaching the longest day.
Probably a bit like parts of the Little Ice Age [which the Mann who gave us Mann-Made Globul-Warming [TM] apparently considered never really existed – outside the globe, I think – thanks to one tree stump.
Belief systems, or what?
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Perhaps the electorate will remember all this when faced with Ed Miliband’s proposals to ban all boilers.
I do have a smidgin of sympathy with reporters (the sun is shining here and I’m in a good mood 🥴) having been a semi-detached, ie freelance, member of that community for several decades.
Trying to explain many things to the ‘man on the Clapham omnibus’ is not easy and simplification needs to be the order of the day. And in many respects reporters themselves are no brighter. If I had £1 for every time I have had to explain the difference between “degrees Fahrenheit/Celsius” and “Fahrenheit/Celsius degrees” I would be richer than I am now! As for the relationship between F and C ….
Alfred Harmsworth once defined journalism as “a profession whose business it is to explain to others what it personally does not understand”.
Not altogether wrong. Good journalists have several characteristics in common. A “way with words” obviously is one; a moderately thick hide combined with the tenacity of a leech is a big advantage; in-depth knowledge of every subject you are expected to report on is simply not a realistic option.
Since about 50% of the population (at a rough guess) know precious little about climate and their weather experience is limited to hot/cold/warm/wet/dry/calm/windy* it’s not surprising if your run-of-the-mill reporter is not much better qualified.
*And weather tends to be unreliable at best. This time yesterday I was enjoying cassis and lemonade on the terrasse in blazing sun; today I still have the blazing sun but a nasty little north-east wind has joined the party. Temperature both days 21° according to my own “official” thermometer.
“…the difference between ‘degrees Fahrenheit/Celsius’ and ‘Fahrenheit/ Celsius degrees’…”
What are the slashes for? For ‘per’? Are you trying to express a ratio? A quotient?
Although technically they are wrong, it does feel “half as hot” as last year.
David Stuart is not helpful in explaining why Emma Gates was being unscientific.
What do you expect him to say? “Twice as warm” is meaningless once you get above about 10°K. 275°K is not twice as warm as 274°K but that is what is being said if we suggest that 2°C is “twice as warm” as 1°C. And we have to wait for it to be 19°C before it becomes twice as warm if we are using Fahrenheit. 33°F=~1°C; 66°F=~19°C.
And if you care to tell me I’m talking rubbish I will happily agree with you. Temperature measurement in and of itself is meaningless. There are certain points on any temperature scale which are meaningful, the obvious ones on this planet being the boiling and freezing points of H2O. On Jupiter it is different and on Venus different again. We fall into the same trap when we talk of half as alkaline or twice as acid. It’s just not that simple and we do ourselves no favours by trying to pretend it is!
I have my birthday towards the end of June ( some day as Boris, I can see how he ‘charms the birds form the trees’ ) and have picked elderflowers for a cordial company from end of May – mid to late June most years for 30 years. The weather is either wet, cold, dull or dry, hot, then thunderstorm wet. I remember just as many good and bad ones.
We have a photo of us on holiday in Cornwall, August in the 1980’s I am playing sandcastles with another kid on the beach, we both have woolly jumpers on!
I have always taken ‘flaming June’ to mean, ‘it’s bloody cold and wet ’til sun comes out for a minute then it’s ruddy hot for seconds, then back behind cloud and freezing again!