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Gas bills could rise by £1,000 to pay for wind power

May 26, 2024

By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Philip Bratby

 

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Gas bills are projected to rise by around £1,000 to pay for wind power under official plans currently being considered by the Energy Secretary.

Claire Coutinho received a report earlier this year that suggested moving some or all green levies from household electricity bills to gas bills, or shifting them into general taxation.

Both proposals, presented by officials at the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero (DESNZ), have been put forward amid concerns that the weight of green levies on household costs is stifling progress on net zero.

But they could prove controversial because of the likely costs to households relying on gas, as well as it being seen as fairer to apply levies to electricity bills.

A new analysis by Cadent, a gas distribution company, found energy bills would rise by £1,045 a year for millions of homes reliant on gas by 2035 if Ms Coutinho opted to move all green tariffs from electricity bills to gas bills.

It calculated that low-income families would be hit the hardest by the move, which would account for almost half (47 per cent) of energy bills for households reliant on gas.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/05/25/gas-bills-could-rise-by-1000-to-pay-for-wind-power/

Would the Telegraph stop calling these GREEN LEVIES, and call them what they really are – SUBSIDIES FOR WIND FARMS?

And let’s be absolutely clear – this would be a punitive tax on gas, designed to make it too expensive for people to use.

The Government has run into one of the inherent self contradictions of the Net Zero nonsense. They want us to use electricity for everything, such as cars and heating, but have also had to massively subsidise renewable energy, thus making the electrification option unaffordable for everybody.

20 Comments
  1. glenartney permalink
    May 26, 2024 9:46 am

    When is the worm going to turn? When are people to say enough is enough.

    Reading this has depressed me no end.

    • dave permalink
      May 26, 2024 10:03 am

      “When is the worm going to turn?”

      When it is ordered to turn by its masters and not before. If metrics of global temperatures were to actually drop by, say, two degrees, the tiny brain in the worm might get a wee bit anxious, but the worm will be told that this terrible turn to cold is another symptom of carbon dioxide pollution – and the worm will instantly believe it.

  2. Penda100 permalink
    May 26, 2024 10:02 am

    Totally insane. Truly, those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

  3. May 26, 2024 10:02 am

    Its like the road tax exemption for EVs. Eventually if gas is priced out of the market, the government can’t make the sums work and either income tax or electricity bills have to take the strain. And 50% plus of the population will either get very sick or have their energy costs subsidised, which will increase public borrowing, leading to more tax increases, leading to economic stagnation or worse, etc etc.

    Whatever they do they can’t make the ridiculous costs of this insanity go away.

    Either the UK ( and much of western Europe) is doomed or this has to end. Unfortunately my money is on the first.

    The US is now facing similar issues after the totally inconsistent policies of the Biden admin. The emission targets for gas-fired generation will lead to closures and no new build just as the subsidies for ‘everything electric’ kick in. They are about to find out big time that their loosely interconnected grid systems will not cope with relying on solar and wind.

    The consolidated West has a death wish.

    • gezza1298 permalink
      May 26, 2024 11:20 am

      Take a look at Germany for who is leading the race to extinction. They have the highest electricity costs so have offset the cost by subsidising consumers with tax income and are now finding this cost is soaring and causing them budget problems. The courts banning them from using 60m euros set aside for Covid has hurt them. On top of this is the slow collapse of their industry as shown by BASF and their quiet exit from Germany as they switch production to China and other locations where they can make a profit.

  4. Artyjoke permalink
    May 26, 2024 10:04 am

    Shifting the levy from electricity to gas and probably increasing it in the process is inevitable, it is the only way that switching from a gas boiler to a heat pump will make economic sense, they won’t be able to stop themselves.

    Out of interest I got a quote recently for a heat pump and it would cost me £6k after the taxpayer has chipped in £7.5k. Even assuming similar running and maintenance costs, which I doubt, it means swapping an unobtrusive, flexible, quiet, reliable, responsive, easily maintained gas boiler for a big ugly heat pump that has none of those attributes.

    If Ed Milibacon doubles or triples the price of gas and reduces the price of electricity the equation changes.

    • gezza1298 permalink
      May 26, 2024 11:26 am

      What will not change is the ineffectiveness of heat pumps in housing stock not designed for them. And neither will be there be enough power on the grid to cope with demand. Nor is there the means to upgrade the grid to deliver more power or create more generation. As the narrator in a WW2 documentary series said at the outset of the Battle of Stalingrad ‘What could possibly go wrong?’

      • Artyjoke permalink
        May 26, 2024 1:58 pm

        Indeed, but we are facing “Just Stop Oil” not “Just Reduce Oil Without Impacting Your Quality of Life”. They don’t care.

  5. May 26, 2024 10:07 am

    The insanity is everywhere in Whitehall and Westminster. I am not on the gas grid, so please don’t tell the ptb that many people have oil-fired boilers.

    • gezza1298 permalink
      May 26, 2024 11:36 am

      It could become a popular heat source. Yes, they might try and tax it higher but that could open a very lucrative smuggling opportunity. Down in the South West they could be rolling barrels of heating oil ashore at night in small coves. Small boats crossing the Channel with oil fired boilers.

      • T Walker permalink
        May 26, 2024 11:48 am

        Surely Gezza they could just stop the boats crossing the Channel – Oh! wait a minute.

  6. williamkhewitt permalink
    May 26, 2024 10:59 am

    Fortunately (?) Claire won’t get to decide.

    For that we may have – MILLIBRAIN !

    Gawd save us all.

  7. Gamecock permalink
    May 26, 2024 11:01 am

    found energy bills would rise by £1,045 a year for millions of homes reliant on gas by 2035 if Ms Coutinho opted to move all green tariffs from electricity bills to gas bills

    “In an unrelated story, the Government has announced that residential use of gas will end by 2035.”

    • dave permalink
      May 26, 2024 1:24 pm

      The Government announcing what will be what in 2035? That would be the Government (and political Party) which will be dead in five weeks’ time? Of course the Uniparty will keep on rolling along, I suppose.

  8. john cheshire permalink
    May 26, 2024 8:11 pm

    When I conclude that the odious creatures in Westminster and Whitehall cannot degenerate any further, they develop a post graduate degree in utter depravity.

  9. Nicholas Lewis permalink
    May 26, 2024 8:20 pm

    You can be sure that Milliband will take up this option

  10. micda67 permalink
    May 26, 2024 9:43 pm

    Gas provides the majority of home heating, thus to “encourage” the move to ASHP which use electricity, pushing all the subsidies onto gas will soddenly make the “peasants” realise that ASHP as a source of inferior heating is considerably cheaper. This is all happening in a democracy, where is the pushback from the opposition?, where is the pushback from the MSM?, or are we just being told to change or die of cold/ choice between Heat or Eat.

    • michael shaw permalink
      May 28, 2024 4:02 pm

      Yes imdeed Micda, where IS the pushback ? There ain’t none, from which I conclude it’s all a prearranged fiddle.

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