Icebreaker headed for North Pole turned back by thicker ice than expected
By Paul Homewood
h/t Joe Public
It was not supposed to be like this!
From Ice Age Now:
15 July 2019 – The Norwegian icebreaker “Kronprins Haakon” (Crown Prince Haakon), on a mission to the North Pole for the Institute of Marine Research, was forced to turn back north of Svalbard after meeting considerably thicker and more massive ice masses than expected, which the vessel was not capable of breaking through.
We had expected more melting and that the ice was more disintegrating, says Captain Johnny Peder Hansen at “Crown Prince Haakon”.
Thick one-year ice combined with large batches of multi-year ice joined together into powerful helmets, and several of these are impenetrable to us, said Captain Johnny Peder Hansen.
The ice is up to three meters (almost 10 feet) thick in the middle of July, and not even the researchers’ long special-purpose chainsaws were able to penetrate the ice.
Polar bears were seen on Bjørnøya this past winter in the middle of the Barents Sea, which shows that the ice edge was very far south, writes Klassekampen.
“In the middle of July we see few signs of thawing and that spring has come. We had expected more melting and that the ice was more disintegrating, ”says Captain Hansen, who for several decades has worked on various vessels in the Arctic.
Secondary source
https://resett.no/2019/07/15/norsk-isbryter-matte-snu-nord-for-svalbard-motte-betydelig-tjukkere-ismasser-enn-forventet/
The original source is Klassekampen (“The class struggle”), a well known and respected newspaper for the radical left in Norway.
https://dagens.klassekampen.no/2019-07-15/stanset-av-isen
Background info about the mission organized by the Norwegian Institute of Marine Research:
https://kronprinshaakon.hi.no/
We can see that three metre thick ice north of Svalbard very clearly on the DMI charts, and it extends all the way to the North Pole, and all the way down to the Greenland coast and Canadian Archipelago:
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icethickness/thk.uk.php
This contrasts strongly with the position on the same date in 2008, when most of the Arctic basin was full of thin ice, and the sliver of thick ice was about to be swept out through the Fram Strait:
Currently high pressure over Svalbard is pushing the thick ice back towards the middle of the Arctic basin.
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Hear of this time and time and – last year a fish survey in Barents could not take place due to early ice
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That’s the *rapidly melting* Arctic for you 😆
Maybe Greta’s school strikes are working!
I forget his name, he does the ‘weather programme’ the weather bod, at the beeb were going mental about ‘Alert’ town in Northern Canada recently reporting a temp of + 21ºC.
Will we see it on the BBC?
No ! …. the truth is always the first casualty
Rhetorical of course Scotty.
Have we heard all about the July cold records in Europe?!
“We had expected more melting and that the ice was more disintegrating, says Captain Johnny Peder Hansen at “Crown Prince Haakon”. – that’s what that nice Prof Wadhams told us.
“The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance – it is the illusion of knowledge.”
Daniel J. Boorstin
“Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance.”
Confucius
Maybe Norwegians are using Danish meteorological data.
“…expected…that the ice was more disintegrating…”
The last stage of ice-melting is a cellular, almost rotting, texture. This is vulnerable to disruption by windshears, and early bad weather explains the occasional dramatic – but meaningless – reduction in ice-cover in late summer. Even when the ice has apparently disappeared, there can still be microscopic spicules throughout the water, and these are nuclei for rapid regrowth of obvious ice in early winter.
In rivers, in the cold season, the first ice often comes back in an unexpected position, namely stuck to the BOTTOM, as the spicules in the super-cooled water are forced together by turbulence to form “fast ice.” Not a lot of people understand this, nowadays, although it was well known to thoughtful scientists in the middle of the 19th Century. They had to work out the ice-danger to structures such as the bridges at Montreal over the St Lawrence.
Funny!
There is always next year.
There were reports of polar bears reaching Scotland during the Little Ice Age. Did they swim there?
Wasn’t the Arctic supposed to be ice-free by now? I am sure that this ice breaker just did not employ the right ice-breaking techniques. They should have fixed Al Gore to the bow of the ship and the ice would have disappeared magically. Why haven’t they thought of this themselves? Do we have to tell them everything?
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I often wonder about the impact of all of the ice-breakers going through the Arctic ice, loosening the pack and allowing it to escape. Has anyone ever looked at ice-breaker tracks, the number of vessels and ice break up? I’ve not seen a paper, but it might be out there.
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Tony Heller predicted exactly this scenario a year or two back. Multi-year ice was remaining in-situ rather then melting, ensuring that it would layer up with new ice to create impossible conditions.
He even got the region correct too, calling it as ice packs were building up east of Greenland.
The only thing he needed to fall in his favour was winds and currents not blowing ice out into the north Atlantic. It clearly hasn’t, and here we are.
OK, there’s a lot of covering all bases in climate science but Heller specifically set out his reasons….and here he is being proved correct yet again.
So he was right and for the right reasons. Try making those predictions for alarmism and there’s huge failures everywhere you look.
Another slam-dunk for Heller and scepticism.
So these clowns set off without “knowing” the extent of the ice? Have they heard of satellite data? Do they know how to look at a picture from said satellite? We also have recent experience from previous clowns. Do they have a cell phone? Call someone.
Good grief!!
The sooner one of these dumb expeditions comes to grief with loss of life the better.
Agreed, Joan. If bloggers can look at
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icethickness/thk.uk.php
. . . why can’t sea captains or navigators?
And if they did, why would they just steer a more easterly course? From the pic, it should be no problem. It’s like they intentionally steered into the heavy ice.
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Worth revisiting the article showing submarines at the North Pole in the late 50’s/early 60’s – https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/26/ice-at-the-north-pole-in-1958-not-so-thick/
Priceless
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It’s the new ‘globally warmed’ ice, its thicker because it’s warmer obviously. Scientists demand another £100 BILLION to investigate this, and PROVE it’s the warmer climate that’s caused it.
Did something happen in the year 1891, which we should all know about?