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Worst Ice Conditions In Hudson Bay For 20 Years

July 22, 2015

By Paul Homewood 


h/t Green Sand




A carefully planned, 115-day scientific expedition on board the floating research vessel, the CCGS Amundsen, has been derailed as the icebreaker was called to help resupply ships navigate heavy ice in Hudson Bay.

"Obviously it has a large impact on us," says Martin Fortier, executive director of ArcticNet, which coordinates research on the vessel. "It’s a frustrating situation."

During the summer, the  Amundsen operates as a floating research centre with experiments running 24 hours a day. This year it was scheduled to reach North Baffin Bay.


CCGS Amundsen

The CCGS Amundsen left port July 10 to head to the Arctic.


But the icebreaker has been rerouted to escort commercial ships en route to resupply communities in Northern Quebec on the eastern side of Hudson Bay.

Worst conditions in 20 years

Johnny Leclair, assistant commissioner for the Coast Guard, said Tuesday conditions in the area are the worst he’s seen in 20 years.

With only two icebreakers available in the Arctic — the CCGS Pierre Radisson has been escorting resupply ships through ice-choked Frobisher Bay — he said the only option was to re-deploy the Amundsen

Leclair did say there should be two more icebreakers headed to the Arctic in the next week, which should free up the Amundsen to return to its scientific mission.

Fortier is hopeful the season will still be productive.

"The people planning the large expeditions have a plan B," Fortier said. "We have already curtailed or either moved to a later date some of the stations and some of the areas we were suppose to sample."

  1. July 22, 2015 3:46 pm

    Thanks, Paul, for revealing the reality hidden by seventy years (1945-2015) of garbage science after WWII by Stalin’s decision to unite national academy of sciences into a new “Orwellian Ministry of Consensus Science (UN)Truths” after 24 Oct 1945.

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    Kepler’s 160 minute cycle

  2. July 22, 2015 4:20 pm

    More ice in Hudson Bay?
    But it’s supposed to be warming,
    Yet another part of the world
    That is not conforming;
    These real world observations
    We will have to curtail,
    Or the whole global warming scam
    Is likely to fail!

    • July 22, 2015 6:37 pm

      The news on Kepler’s 160 minute cycle assures us BIG BROTHER IS GOING DOWN FAST !

  3. July 22, 2015 4:44 pm

    Reblogged this on the WeatherAction News Blog.

  4. July 22, 2015 5:45 pm

    Let me guess, the Amundsen was heading to the Arctic to research the demise of the Arctic ice before it was re-routed due to too much ice in the Hudson Bay.

  5. July 22, 2015 5:56 pm

    It does seem that arctic sea ice may well be heading for a rebound, and that its recent history was nothing more than a regular declining portion of a natural cyclic variability.

  6. Jeffery permalink
    July 22, 2015 6:38 pm

    Would appreciate commentary on this:


    • July 22, 2015 6:50 pm

      Jeff, I do not use Facebook, but I assure you Big Brother Is Going Down!

    • July 22, 2015 7:32 pm

      Typical alarmist reaction from just looking at a few years data.

      Box knows full well that Greenland temperatures were just as high in the 1930’s and 40’s, he even wrote papers about it a few years ago.

    • July 23, 2015 8:47 am

      That article is a hoot, we must go easy on the heroic climatologists, the poor lambs are feeling the pressure:

      “As a recent study from the University of Bristol documented, climate scientists have been so distracted and intimidated by the relentless campaign against them that they tend to avoid any statements that might get them labeled “alarmists,” retreating into a world of charts and data”

      I believe the modern expression is ROFLAO

    • July 23, 2015 7:46 pm

      Fascinating discussions of the damage that we “deniers” are doing to the “believers”. We are apparently causing them psychoses by our continued attacks on the “proven science” and resistance to stopping all industrial activity.

      What is hard to understand is that the press, and more so the Beeb, is still largely refusing to publish any articles critical of “climate science”. So the blogs must be working!

  7. Mark Hodgson permalink
    July 22, 2015 7:13 pm

    Here in Cumbria we can’t match the ice in Hudson Bay, but we’re having a rubbish summer, as confirmed by our local newspaper:

    The article includes this: “Despite a brief spike in temperatures two weeks ago, forecasters have said that thermometers are unlikely to rise above the 16C mark before the end of the month – which the Met Office says is below average for this time of year.

    “Between July 1 and 15, the chance of rainfall across Cumbria was also above average, with between 48 and 50 per cent normally expected. However, the Met Office said this had risen to 61 per cent.

    “A spokeswoman told the News & Star: “Temperatures have been below average while rainfall has been above average, but it is the north west of England and people do tend to remember periods of bad weather rather than good weather.”

    Nice of the Met Office patronisingly to discount the weather here in the north west of England. But then Cumbria isn’t an urban heat Island like Heathrow, so we shouldn’t expect to set any heat records!

  8. Wayne Moore permalink
    July 22, 2015 7:18 pm

    Does any one know if the information about growing season length for the northern United States (USDA) and Canada for the prairie provinces? If global warming is occurring, this should be reflected in an extension to growing seasons, and to crops being able to be grown further north in the Northern Hemisphere.

    • July 23, 2015 11:48 am

      That is what happened during the Medieval Warming Period. England grew better grapes and produced better wines than did France. France got their panties in a wad over it. Then when the mini-ice age came, England, Germany, etc. moved to grains and beer, etc. but France refused to alter their eating habits and thus more of them died of starvation. Some things never change–at least w/ France.

    • Michael Olsen permalink
      July 25, 2015 12:21 am

      Unfortunately, the scope for increased agriculture in Canada will not be all that great even if there were global warming: the soil just isn’t good enough or plentiful enough. All the lakes in northern Canada? Carved out by glaciers, which transported the soil to the existing Canadian Prairies and US Great Plains.

  9. Green Sand permalink
    July 22, 2015 7:46 pm

    Hopefully the following illustrates some of the issues they are having in the Bay:-



    • Green Sand permalink
      July 22, 2015 7:53 pm

      Should have mentioned they are weekly charts with week ending dates.

  10. catweazle666 permalink
    July 23, 2015 12:38 am

    The expedition isn’t led by Chris Turkey is it?

    • AndyG55 permalink
      July 23, 2015 1:47 am

      CW, I think you have misinterpreted.

      The CCGS Amundsen is being called from it regular research duties to help out with ice in Hudson Bay.

      Turkey went were his ignorance/arrogance took him, in a boat not equipped for the situation.

      The CCGS Amundsen, being a proper icebreaker, is most certainly is properly equipped for current Arctic conditions.

  11. Green Sand permalink
    July 23, 2015 7:53 am

    Another earlier article about Hudson Bay has the Coast Guard’s assistant commissioner making the following statement:-

    “……..Contrary to predictions made earlier this year, Leclair said, the sea ice in the bay has not been melting.

    That, in combination with southeasterly winds, has meant that Frobisher Bay has not been able to “flush” its remaining ice. Instead, a large compacted pan of thick, first-year and multiyear ice has formed in the bay.

    It’s so thick that icebreakers and commercial ships alike have no choice but to skirt around it, which has led to delays………”

    “multiyear ice” in Hudson Bay? Isn’t the Bay ice free in summer?

    • Mark Hodgson permalink
      July 23, 2015 10:34 am

      “multiyear ice” in Hudson Bay? Isn’t the Bay ice free in summer?

      Another story that probably won’t be reported by the BBC…

  12. July 23, 2015 11:53 am

    The Arctic version of a couple of summers ago in the Antarctic. There should be a song in here somewhere. I remember laughing so hard at the antics of those who went to Antarctica to see the demise of the ice there and got trapped in the ice. And these loons still cling to their man-made global climate change story.

    • July 23, 2015 7:53 pm

      me too, I’m sure that “rhymeafterrhyme” could help you with the song.

  13. AndyG55 permalink
    July 24, 2015 1:31 am

    I must admit I’m getting confused messages.

    Here the Greenie captain saying, “conditions in the area are the WORST he’s seen in 20 years.”

    But I thought melting Arctic sea ice was meant to be BAD…

    so Shirley, wouldn’t all this sea ice in Hudson Bay be ….

    ” the BEST conditions in the are for 20 years”.?

  14. July 24, 2015 2:01 pm

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