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RSS Continues To Diverge From GISS

December 6, 2015

By Paul Homewood   

  

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http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/enso/mei/

 

RSS figures for November are now out, and also show a small fall on October, as did UAH. The 12-month running average still refuses to go above earlier years, despite the strongest El Nino conditions since 1998.

 

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http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/enso/mei/

 

 

Although temperatures are likely to rise still further in the next few months, there is absolutely no way this year will come close to approaching either 1998 or even 2010.

 

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Between 1979 and 2001, the RSS satellite data increased at virtually the same rate as GISS. Since then, there has been a massive divergence, with GISS claiming that the pace of increase has barely reduced from the earlier period.

In contrast RSS (and also UAH) confirm that, if anything, temperatures have been dropping.

 

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http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1979/plot/gistemp/from:1979/plot/rss/from:1979/to:2001/trend/plot/rss/from:2001/trend/plot/gistemp/from:1979/to:2001/trend/plot/gistemp/from:2001/trend

  

 

 

   It’s time to call the fraud squad in.

23 Comments leave one →
  1. Adrian permalink
    December 6, 2015 2:51 pm

    I haven’t got time to worry about this.

    “moderate breeze and bit of rain Donald” has just gone through and the gardens wet

    I’m worried in case it kills all the cacti I planted 15 years ago on the advice of the BBC and Met Office ‘boiler’s

    • Mark Hodgson permalink
      December 7, 2015 10:01 am

      Adrian

      I share the aims of this website, and am always grateful for the work Paul does in exposing the lies, stupidity, numbers fiddling and other nonsense of those who would have us waste billions on trying, Canute-like, to hold back global warming or climate change (or whatever it’s called this week).

      However, living in Cockermouth as I do, I can assure you that the ludicrously named latest storm has done rather more than wet the gardens with a moderate breeze and a bit of rain.

      Not that the supposed record rainfall and the awful aftermath of the storm make me change my views. If anything, this demonstrates the futility of wasting billions in this country trying to reduce our CO2 emissions while the rest of the world largely continues to increase its CO2 emissions by a factor that dwarfs our efforts. Surely the moral to be drawn from these events is to stop wasting money trying in vain to prevent climate change, and to spend it instead on dealing with the effects of climate change. I don’t know whether the flood defences in Cumbria would have been more effective if more money had been spent on them, but spending money on flood defences looks to me like a better way to spend our money (together with a fund allowing a rapid response to events like these, e,g. to repair badly damaged roads).

      • NeilC permalink
        December 7, 2015 10:46 am

        Totally agree, well said.

    • December 7, 2015 10:57 am

      Sorry, but you can’t deny the storm happened in the NW, just because the weather was fine in your garden, in another part of the country,

  2. December 6, 2015 3:20 pm

    Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
    Perhaps Gavin forgot to adjust-out the UHI effect of ‘hot-air’ belched from 40,000 climate warriors in Paris?

  3. December 6, 2015 3:30 pm

    Thanks, Paul.
    I guess this is because GISS shows real man-made global temperatures while the satellites can only sense natural temperatures. /sarc

    It seems to me that the MEI peaked in November, but NOAA-NWS Climate Prediction Center – CPC says:
    “El Niño will likely peak during the Northern Hemisphere winter 2015-16, with a transition to ENSO-neutral anticipated during the late spring or early summer 2016.”
    See ENSO Diagnostic Discussion – 12 November 2015, at http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_disc_nov2015/ensodisc.html

  4. December 6, 2015 3:43 pm

    That final graph there is pretty revealing. Before 2001, global temps went up and so they felt no need to adjust. After 2001, global temps didn’t anymore and so their ‘anthropogenic global warming’ narrative was threatened. Hence, the process of relentless revisioning started …

    You see the same pattern if you compare with HadCRUt version 3:

    It didn’t show enough warming post 1998 and so they had to “upgrade” it.

  5. December 6, 2015 3:57 pm

    The Times reports that atmospheric CO2 data to be released soon will show a decrease, which would come about from a dominant oceanic flux that is reducing due to lower temperatures. It will be interesting to see how the AGW industry reacts to this potential Game Over data.

    • Lawrence13 permalink
      December 6, 2015 4:41 pm

      Climanrecon.

      Is that a fact , I’d love to see that data but surely Mauna Loa would reflect this ?

      • December 7, 2015 10:03 am

        Thanks.

        Headline: “Revealed: greenhouse gases to fall”

        Subsequent text: “Scientists will say this week that man-made emissions “nearly stalled” at 37bn tonnes of CO2 last year — and are on track to stabilise or drop slightly this year.”

        Personally, I would believe the concentration figures, rather than the “theoretical” emission figures. They can’t possibly measure all of the emissions.

        But still, it will be interesting to see what happens if the theoretical emissions fall but the concentrations keep going up.

    • December 6, 2015 9:22 pm

      Have you a link?

    • David Gurk permalink
      December 7, 2015 8:00 am

      You’re talking about CO2 emissions, not CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere. Hopefully annual CO2 emissions will be leveling off soon (though they haven’t yet) and hopefully they will start plummeting shortly thereafter. But until emissions are a small fraction of what they are now, CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere will continue to rise.

  6. Coeur de Lion permalink
    December 6, 2015 6:16 pm

    Oh dear! I fear the COLD that is surely coming with El Nina and Solar Cycle 24 . My old bones.

  7. December 6, 2015 6:58 pm

    This is why GHGs have no net thermal effect:

    http://joannenova.com.au/2015/10/for-discussion-can-convection-neutralize-the-effect-of-greenhouse-gases/

    and this is how solar variations account for observed climate changes:

    http://joannenova.com.au/2015/01/is-the-sun-driving-ozone-and-changing-the-climate/

    Those are the two most critical issues to be determined.

  8. Francois Stallbom permalink
    December 7, 2015 8:14 am

    How does anyone measure a “global” temperature? Could it ever be possible?

    • December 7, 2015 5:46 pm

      It is possible to measure global temperature using thermometers but not very precisely.
      There is a huge margin of error on even the best measures, which is rarely mentioned in the mainstream media.
      According to HatCrut4, the temperature at end of 2014 was somewhere between 0.493c and 0.773c above the 1961-90 average, taking the total error margins into account.
      At October 2015 it was somewhere between 0.676c and 0.951c.
      So in fact, taking error margins into account the anomaly could have gone up from 0.493c to 0.951c, or down from 0.773c to 0.676c, or anything in between.
      Of course if you created an equally spaced, regular grid of identical thermometers, across the entire globe, you could measure the temperature more precisely, with lower error margins. but there would always be errors.
      The same applies to all of the datasets other than HadCrut4.
      The fact is, all we can say is that the global temperature anomaly is somewhere between ???? and ???? and nothing more.

    • justanotherpersonii permalink
      December 7, 2015 11:49 pm

      There is a peer-reviewed paper on that topic here: http://dx.doi.org/10.1515/JNETDY.2007.001, and here for the full paper: http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/globaltemp/GlobTemp.JNET.pdf.

  9. December 7, 2015 7:25 pm

    Considering the fraud squad, it is worth thinking how long it has taken to uncover Sep Blatter and his cronies. Everyone knew that the whole operation was corrupt but it took one of the least interested nations (the USA) to prove it.

    The IPCC / Climate lobby is a much more diffuse Big Brother than Sep was: not much chance of it being dismantled soon.

  10. Paul Deverson permalink
    December 28, 2015 8:48 pm

    Great blog! And really useful to see updated data.

    There’s just one problem.

    It doesn’t matter how much data you provide that argues against prevailing views about ‘climate change’, it’ll never convince proponents that they’re wrong. It’s because of the confirmation bias.

    Views that we all have are influenced by cognitive biases. The confirmation bias is one of these. This occurs when people focus on evidence that supports their beliefs or what they want or believe to be true, while ignoring evidence that challenges those beliefs.

    It would be good if your blog could invite some debate on how we can overcome this problem. It’s really important because a widespread belief in anthropogenic global warming is resulting in an incredible waste of taxpayers’ money being spent on trying to reduce production of CO2 instead of addressing real issues.

    • December 30, 2015 9:53 am

      I quite agree. Indeed I have said much the same thing myself for several years.
      The problem is, there are more sources than ever of CB, in the media, with every extreme weather event reported and none of the normal events.
      Also, people with no real knowledge of weather history are allowed to comment, confirming that any unusual event obviously being caused by “climate change” (without precisely defining what they mean by the term) and anyone with the opposing view not being allowed to express an opinion.
      However, until the panic subsides, and the weather patterns change, it will be very difficult to resist.

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