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Daily Mail Readers Not Convinced By The Climate Emergency

November 18, 2019

By Paul Homewood

 

h/t Dave Ward

It appears Daily Mail readers are not quite so convinced by the Climate Emergency!

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28 Comments
  1. November 18, 2019 5:02 pm

    Reblogged this on Climate- Science.press.

  2. Nancy & John Hultquist permalink
    November 18, 2019 5:15 pm

    Covering land – development – has been studied for years, and is well understood. The reports often use graphs titled “the urban hydrograph.” An early report was by Luna B. Leopold:
    Circular 554 – 1968

    In short, precipitation comes off the land faster and rises higher.

    Another: Land Use and Land Cover Effects on Runoff Processes: Urban and Suburban Development”>

  3. November 18, 2019 5:33 pm

    Wow – at least the paper prints them. The Los Angeles Times, a number of years ago, publicly adopted a policy of not allowing any skeptical of AGW/ACC letters, nor op-eds, to be published in it’s ‘news’paper.

    • bobn permalink
      November 18, 2019 7:09 pm

      The Mail will print them but The guardian, The Times and the other leftie rags wont.

      • November 19, 2019 12:05 am

        Matt Ridley sometimes gets things in the Times.
        Most Times writers think they work at the Guardian
        but they get called out in the paid subscribers comments.
        Melane Phillips also has a column.

    • toby glyn permalink
      November 19, 2019 6:34 am

      The Sydney Morning Herald made the same decision 6 years ago.
      No “science deniers” articles, letters or comments.

      • November 19, 2019 11:16 am

        Just a fools’ echo chamber then.

  4. ianprsy permalink
    November 18, 2019 6:04 pm

    Don’t panic. It’s all under control. Look up SUDS- Sustainable Urban Drainage System.

    • john cooknell permalink
      November 18, 2019 8:11 pm

      Well, Well, Well !

      SUDS (Sustainable Urban Drainage System) sounds so inviting and even has sustainable in the title. However it has become the darling of those who don’t know much, so anybody political loves the idea, infiltration techniques how fashionable.

      But when you need it most your soak-away won’t soak-away, because the bl**dy things underwater!

      I would imagine nearly all the new developments in the areas now flooded have SUDS that is the planning requirement normal practice. Just shows how successful the system is!

      However SUDS design principles mean that on occasion flood design exceedance will occur, and then the water has to be put somewhere and it all gets very complicated, and in my opinion gets put in the “it’s just too hard box”, and we all know nobody will maintain the SUDS systems so why bother.

  5. November 18, 2019 6:18 pm

    Off-topic – this was 10 yrs ago – https://sci-hub.tw/10.1260/0958-305X.21.2.115

    FUEL FOR THOUGHT
    FACTS AND EVENTS
    CLIMATE SCIENCE AND ITS POLITICS
    CLIMATE POLICY AND POLITICS
    CARBON FINANCE AND GREEN TECHNOLOGY
    CARBONPHOBIA
    CARBON ENERGY IN DEMAND
    NUCLEAR DEVELOPMENTS
    EPILOGUE

  6. November 18, 2019 6:20 pm

    Another OT – https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/24eb/a2dceef94a1f95073a40a0eeac81a57b6d65.pdf

    Role of atmospheric carbon
    dioxide in climate change
    Martin Hertzberg and Hans Schreuder

  7. Mike Jackson permalink
    November 18, 2019 6:34 pm

    I’m with the painter and decorator! And anyone else who cares to confront an eco-idiot and demand an explanation as to how workers are to go about their work and goods are to be delivered if wheeled transport is, effectively, going to be banned or made so expensive/inconvenient as to make normal life impossible.

    And for every instance of “well of course we don’t mean …” point the finger and laugh. Ridiculing the ridiculous usually works wonders.

    • Joe Public permalink
      November 18, 2019 8:54 pm

      “Ridiculing the ridiculous usually works wonders.”

      Seconded.

    • Adam Gallon permalink
      November 19, 2019 10:22 am

      The Eco-idiots got quite a shock, it seems, when the protestor got chucked off the top of the tube train. Not something they were expecting.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      November 19, 2019 1:44 pm

      Will the bus wait while he loads on the ladders, dust sheets, tins of paint, rollers, trays, brushes, sugar soap, brush cleaner, brushes etc or will he have to make multiple trips? Could take a while to get everything there, work for a couple of hours, and then take it all back.

      What about other tradesmen? All they can bring are their tools, no spares that might be on their van.

  8. MrGrimNasty permalink
    November 18, 2019 6:40 pm

    The DM is a full on supporter of the CAGW narrative (since the change of editor).
    Most days there are multiple bogus stories on air pollution/climate change.
    And it is affecting the readers – many of the letters do spout the line about extreme weather getting worse and children dying/ill from air pollution as fact.

    On another theme, even the extended smart meter deadline is unrealistic.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7685735/Energy-chiefs-miss-smart-meter-roll-targets-deadline-extended-FOUR-years.html

    The UK can’t even replace 1 single small component in every house by 2024 – yet we can build 10s GWs of ‘green’ generation and storage – invent technologies that don’t yet exist, upgrade/rebuild the entire electricity distribution network, supply 10s millions of car charging points, get millions of electric cars on the road, covert all CH to hydrogen or electric/heat pump, and rebuild/insulate every house by……… never going to happen is it.

    • Bill Capron permalink
      November 18, 2019 7:50 pm

      Dead nuts, right on!

  9. Harry Passfield permalink
    November 18, 2019 8:14 pm

    And yet, R4 PM this evening managed, yet again, to wheel out David King to spread alarm and despondency. He has truly drunk of the Kool-Aid and is pushing the ‘climate emergency’ button for all its worth. My question is, what is it worth for him?

    • Mack permalink
      November 18, 2019 8:53 pm

      Lots! You know you’ve scraped the barrel when you have to drag David King out to depress the masses. But it is the BBC we’re talking about. That would be the very same David King that the Ruskis (not known for their generosity of spirit towards dissenting and off message voices) accused of censorship in the climate debate in the run up to Kyoto as a result of his juvenile and blatantly unscientific attempts to expunge the contribution of the world”s leading experts on sea level rise and vector borne diseases at the conference whose views, funnily enough, were diametrically opposed to his own. For the UKs ex Chief Scientific Officer, he has consistently demonstrated the predictive skills of a circus clown in the climate doom mongering department. And his forecasting abilities have not proved to be a very high bar for the global scientific ‘elite’ to surpass in recent years, alas.

      • Steve permalink
        November 18, 2019 9:24 pm

        I read that he qualified as a scientist in Africa. I can’t help wondering whether he qualified in the same place as my wife’s doctor, who told her that her leg could not be broken and refused an x ray because she could not have got there with a broken leg. (It was shown later to be broken in two places)

  10. November 18, 2019 10:23 pm

    Here in Austria, if you go into a public debate and just hints at doubts at the climate alarmist narrative, you are massacred. Nobody will come and help you. They will fall all over you and leave a tormented mess that you will be behind. But as soon as one talks to people in private, many do see alarmism as the scam it is. So many in fact that sometimes for days I hardly ever speak to an alarmist. People are afraid of the attention as the climate is one of witch trials. Soon there will be stakes burning.

    • It doesn't add up... permalink
      November 19, 2019 1:48 am

      When the stakes get high enough the witches will burn.

    • November 19, 2019 2:33 am

      Very sad. Whatever comes of the climate fad, huge public expenditures are at stake. Time to talk it over and pay attention to facts. Too bad Climate has become a religion.

  11. November 18, 2019 10:37 pm

    Urban development in the US has led up to an increase of 600% in flooding.

    https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs07603/

    • john cooknell permalink
      November 19, 2019 10:39 am

      So the population of USA rose from 100million to 320 million in 80 years, and that caused more people to be in the way of flooding.

      At the same time the biological environment has dealt with the increase in human excrement and a little bit of thought on how we dispose of our waste has resulted in almost nil pollution from human excrement. No emergency there or anywhere else!.

      Although the jury is still out on whether the currently favoured practice of dumping sewage sludge on landfill and the land, is better for the environment and us,than dumping it in the sea which is what we used to do.

  12. November 19, 2019 1:05 am

    Reblogged this on Climate Collections.

  13. MrGrimNasty permalink
    November 19, 2019 1:01 pm

    To prove my point, the DM duly delivers its daily propaganda story on air pollution.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7699099/Why-exercising-outside-bad-you.html

  14. Russ Wood permalink
    November 20, 2019 4:54 pm

    When I used to live in a suburb of Johannesburg, South Africa, there was a nice little stream through the neighbourhood. I used to describe its normal state as “about 4 or 5 bath taps full on”. But when it rained, the ‘stream’ went to a spate about 10 metres across by 2 metres deep. And since the suburb on the other side went from one house per plot with lots of garden to up to 10 town houses on the same plot, with LOTS of brick and concrete, the run-off became really serious, and the municipality finally put retention dams to slow down the flooding. Now, this was ONE little stream – which was sensibly handled. But the ‘environmentalists’ in the UK just don’t seem to have got it!

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