Climate Assembly Wants “Green Recovery”–Surprise, Surprise!
By Paul Homewood
Now, who would have thought that??
Interim report published by UK’s first citizens assembly for the climate crisis urges government to use forthcoming economic stimulus to move closer to net zero goal, while highlighting that public is prepared to make emissions-slashing lifestyle changes.
From handwashing to homeworking, the coronavirus crisis has highlighted how rapid behaviour change is possible, prompting questions about whether policymakers should capitalise on the public’s new found…
As I warned at the very start, this nonsensical “Climate Assembly” would only result in one conclusion. After all, why was the Green Party so keen on the idea from the start.
A group of people with virtually no knowledge of the subject have been assembled, fed a pack of lies by so-called “climate scientists”, and deliberately starved of the relevant facts. In their midst there will no doubt have been a small number of green activists, able to practice the same entryism as their Momentum and its predecessor, the Militant Tendency to ensure its minority views are carried.
Nowhere, I very much doubt, was it explained to the members of the Assembly that this emission slashing would cost £50bn a year – some £2000 for every household in the country. Nor, I doubt, was it explained to this naive collection any reduction in UK emissions would have no effect at all on the climate, as most of the rest of the world will still continue to maintain a rapid rise in their own emissions.
This whole idea, backed to its eternal shame by pretty much all of our Parliament, has been a travesty of democracy. The idea that the votes of a few hundred brainwashed fools should override the wishes of the public at large is a return to the rotten borough politics of the 19thC.
It is time for a full public debate about climate policies, with the public being given all of the facts. Politicians of all parties also need to be honest, and tell us which taxes or spending cuts they propose to pay for all of this green nonsense.
It is also time for the media to step up to the plate, and start to give us the real facts.
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NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT 
Even more disgraceful than shameful, folly and ignorance and corruption.
Costly waste of resources in a near-bankrupt nation.
Let them get on with it. This lot deserve to reap the whirlwind. A load of mindless jerks.
Yeah, but we don’t deserve to reap it with them.
“most of the rest of the world will still continue to maintain a rapid rise in their own emissions.”
Which will also have no effect on the climate.
Paul, a tad naive in hoping that the public will be given all of the facts.
Everyone in a position to give the ‘great unwashed’ the full facts are the people entirely responsible for their future misery. In the short term, they and theirs benefit through our ignorance. How’s Gummer and his family interests doing these days? Every major political party in the U.K. and across the Western World are fully signed up to the the lengthy environmental suicide note that our betters keep scribbling upon. I wouldn’t mind, but by their support and actions they just make the environment worse. And, oh, how do our former colonial cousins and their neighbours laugh at us for our virtue signalling?
On a side note, the old Russki collectivist, Lysenko, was responsible, via his good chum Stalin, for one of the greatest purges of honest scientists in the modern era. Interestingly, the more modern crop of Russian scientists and meteorologists have been allowed a lot more vocal discretion recently than their predecessors were allowed. They fell out with our finest Ouija scientist, Sir David King, when he was the world’s leading climate suicidalist, by contradicting him with facts not feelings. It’s probably no surprise that the Russians have been building the strongest and most powerful ice breaking ships that the world has ever seen in recent years and that their long tern climate forecasting models are consistently more accurate than those conjured up by the doomsters at NASA/NOAA. Perhaps they might just know something that our top bods might just have missed?
Are our MPs aware that on these matters an unelected group will make them superfluous? Pleae suggest additions to that group who already include Climate Emergency, Climate Assembly, the Greens and the various factions who believe that Greta Th. has something more than childish hysteria to offer.
Time to write to our MPs a challenging text distilled from the many facts collated by Paul and Commentators’ rational criticisms.
The whole idea of the ‘citizens assembly’ is a virtual veneer of democracy within the communist framework The Politicians do not become superfluous they become Commissars.
Then, the citizens assembly miraculously produce policy ideas that closely match those of the Commissars but are presented as coming from the general public. Marxism 101.
The sad truth is that it is unlikely to make as any difference as the next election is way off so MPs have no need to take any notice of voters. Tories will be worse as it would take a record swing for Labour to get back in power and even a Johnson government couldn’t be so poor as to allow that. Mind you, Johnson is unlikely to see out 2021 if it is true that the party grandees are looking at alternatives.
Hello Thomas, I have been writing to my MP, one of the few with scientific training, for years. Initially my letters were forwarded to the relevant minister from whom I received a short reply.
More recently my MP has not even bothered to acknowledge my letters!
And given that all the existing parties (and most of the mainstream media) seem to be part of the greenie bubble, I therefore suspect that the only way forward in much of the West is to form political parties that have as their primary goal lower energy prices for ordinary people. What else would work?
Regards,
John Cullen.
I think it might be quite revealing to run some polling where propositions are stated, and the answer alternative are
1) I know this is true
2) I believe this is true
3) I don’t know about this
4) I believe this is false
5) I know this is false
It would be particularly revealing to be able to poll MPs in this way. My bet is that many of them would make assertions on the extreme ends (according to how the issue was phrased), despite in reality knowing next to nothing about the issues and facts, especially if they are couched in mildly unfamiliar terms.
I look forward to seeing your questionnaire.
“It is also time for the media to step up to the plate, and start to give us the real facts.”
Yes indeed… but that is not going to happen anytime soon. The current climate change frenzy has inertia from the UN’s IPCC and the Paris Accord’s ‘green’ policy makers that is too large. And facts are subject to adjustments to suit the narrative. Even the last 20 years of no warming hasn’t sunk in…”an artifact”? What to do realistically without media help? A serious question.
MOre evidence of La Niñas and Little Ice Age conditions – this time in the South Pacific?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8451897/Climate-triggered-collapse-Rapa-Nui-society-scientists-say.html
Theres no legislation establishing this assembly or giving it any powers. It seems to have minimal funding from the House of Commons budget.
Its merely a creation of Commons select committees and as such its toothless, if you could call something that is just hot air as related to that orifice rather than another more obvious place.
who now remembers the previous Citizens Assembly on Social Care, Im not even going to bother looking it up, as whats the point.
The best that can be hoped is the ‘Nett Zero Assembly’ takes some wind out of the sails of XR and they both end up becalmed as attention is moved to survival from infectious diseases.
Politicians of all parties also need to be honest
Re climate they seem mostly just as brainwashed as the climate stooges, er…assembly.
DEFRA’s new report: Impacts of Net Zero pathways on
future air quality in the UK
Click to access 2006240802_Impacts_of_Net_Zero_pathways_on_future_air_quality_in_the_UK.pdf
Air quality is the selling point of climate policy here. Eat 20-50% less meat and dairy produce, get an electric car, dump the gas heating, etc. Get your government-mandated lifestyle here.
Looks like WordPress choked on the pdf link 😕
Find it here: https://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/library/reports.php?report_id=1002
Apparently, the problems with renewable energy have been solved and will bring down the costs. These people believe their own hype.
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/renewable-generators-are-uks-latest-tool-to-smooth-out-renewable-generation
“the coronavirus crisis has highlighted how rapid behaviour change is possible” This in fact shows that people will respond when they perceive a threat, but as recent weeks have shown, they will only put up with the change for a short period.
There has been much talk about permanent lifestyle changes, but people go with things whilst they are novel and enjoyable, but will revert to their old, lazy ways in a short space of time, as evidenced by the many crazes that have flared and faded over the years.
“the coronavirus crisis has highlighted how rapid behaviour change is possible”
Yes indeed. The lockdown created a social and economic disaster, world-wide. If that’s the “green” plan going forward it can only get worse. And, CO2 in the atmosphere will not be lowered…a requirement for Net zero.
These people, and those that make law based on their beliefs, should be bound by having to define the outcomes of their laws: they should be able to state what will happen if they promote ‘x’ and ban ‘y’. They should also be able to say what it will cost.
But they won’t. They know this is the most perfect scam being that any outcomes (or not) will occur – or not – long after they have shuffled off this mortal coil (leaving, in the case of people like Deben, their ill-gotten fortunes to their offspring).
BTW: It seems that all sorts of virtue-signallers are getting in on the act. This is part of a newsletter I received from a local farm shop. Further comment seems pointless:
Or you you could look at the repair cafe calculator here…
https://frc.cfsd.org.uk/index.php/rc-carbon-calculator-standard/
I think the main point here is that the reduction in emissions will have no effect on the climate, as human activity is inconsequential to the planet. It barely notices all the CO2 we pump out, what with all the other, more ‘natural’ processes going on. The Green Agenda is entirely focused on anti-capitalism and nothing else. The committee presumably aren’t told that the fairies at the bottom of their gardens, are also not real, just a test to see exactly how gullible they are. (Oh, and for God’s sake don’t give them a copy of The War of the Worlds)
We don’t hear much about CO2 levels going down in the worldwide shutdown.
If they did decrease, the BBC would be crowing about it- so I’m guessing the levels worldwide are unchanged .
Am I wrong?
You are wrong. They went up. even the Guardian admitted it!
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jun/04/atmospheric-co2-levels-rise-sharply-despite-covid-19-lockdowns
Sad to hear Owen Patterson’s wife has died.
Amen to that. He is a wasted talent.
I came across this and found it very interesting. Voodoo modeling is,and will continue to be, a conspiracy of fear both for Climate Change and COVID 19
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/ross-mckitrick-the-flaw-in-relying-on-worst-case-scenario-climate-model/ar-BB15RKIR?ocid=spartan-dhp-feeds
This one minute clip will cheer you up. Shame this girl wasnt invited to the climate goonfest.
How about a Monarchy Assembly? Or a Peerage Assembly?
This citizen’s assembly or whatever they like to call it was always a method of keeping the XR’s, and the like, quiet as the Government were too weak to confront the law breaking protesters in Oxford Street. I’d admit that it would be like culling a herd of bambis but the Government is there to uphold the law and confront anarchists. Priti Patel has been given a space with this lockdown to formulate the response when the protests start again, as they will. Be interesting to see if she lives up to her reputation for strength. I somehow doubt it.
Halifax Nova Scotia Canada has just come up with this: https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default/files/documents/city-hall/regional-council/200623rc916pres.pdf
A bit off topic, I have a small petrol car which pays zero tax because it is very economical and creates under 100 grams CO2 per km. I have had it for 3 years and it has always done 51.7miles /gallon of unleaded. I have just started to drive it on the motorway and A roads after lock down and noticed that on the same trip it was using 47.7 mpg. That’s an 8% drop in economy and it was in ideal conditions with little traffic and dry. I just remembered that the petrol was labelled E10 as this has 10% ethanol content instead of 5% in E5. I read that, because ethanol has less energy content than unleaded the economy of cars with small engines will see an increase in fuel consumption. Can anyone explain how putting an extra 5% of biofuel into the tank results in, 8% more fuel being used at 108 g CO2 /100 km and this is going to save the planet?
MPs and Scottish MPs ignore me. To engage, they’d have to admit they are fools, got it badly wrong to think their climate legislation would save the planet, wasted billions of taxpayers’ money, created huge powerful financial interests with their renewables contracts and they’d have to tell the gullible voters that they got it all wrong too. Not a hope.
I can’t explain it, Steve. When the U.S. went from straight petrol to E10, the gas mileage drop off did not match theoretical here, either.
What csr magazine tested various cars and found reductions of around 10% in the 998cc engine cars, only, 4% in bigger less economical models. Mine is a 998cc Toyota engined mini. There’s s sensible policy. Put alcohol in the fuel of economical cars to make them make more CO2. And most ethanol comes from American corn, which SEWTHA found to be the worst crop for efficient biofuel production. I will see about putting half a tank of the other more expensive petrol in and see if the economy meter goes back up.
It’s also an 8% increase in fuel taxes… and they don’t have to change the rate by even 0.01ppl. Plus more wasteful growing of crops we don’t eat. Count yourself lucky though. Some cars fare much worse.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-e10-fuel-could-reduce-cars-economy-10-cent
You just have to hope the fuel doesn’t damage your fuel pump or fuel lines, which can be a very expensive repair. You’re probably OK with your newish car, at least for now. But it may also be a way to build in some “obsolescence” to encourage you to buy that EV. Personally, I think the move to E10 is evil. They already postponed it once for fear of backlash on the consequences. Now, they simply don’t care: pseudo-green trumps everything. Even the habitat of orang-utans, under threat to make biodiesel.
“Remarkable consensus Climate Assembly supports green recovery and longer-term low carbon lifestyle changes”
Except that the pandemic’s emission reduction did not slow down the rise of atmospheric CO2. What good is net zero if atmospheric CO2 concentration continues to rise unabated?
https://tambonthongchai.com/2020/05/18/12479/
Paul, your forensic disparaging of the (the whole!) ‘Climate Change’ fraud is as ever faultless. We now just need to fire up those MPs with an open mind to make their own judgements. I remain incredulous that the Government of the day is still led by the nose by the unscientific and mesmerised Climate Change Committee, which has been pumping out nonsense for well beyond its ‘use by’ date. The CCC needs to be investigated by an independent agency as a matter of national importance. Otherwise we are heading for global embarrassment, let alone the waste of money!
Absolutely right. The Climate Change department was closed down. We must get the Climate Change Committee closed down. The members earn fat salaries and the Carbon Budgets are the scam of not just the century, but forever. The entire set up since the 2008 UK Climate Change Act is utterly atrocious, Wicked. I have run out of adjectives.