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The Impossibility of Windmills

September 8, 2020

By Paul Homewood

 

 

Jan Smelik has sent me his video about windmills in the Netherlands.

 

It presents the impossibility of relying on wind power in a very visual and graphic way:

 

 

 

26 Comments
  1. Joe Public permalink
    September 8, 2020 4:11 pm

    “It presents the impossibility of relying on wind power in a very visual and graphic way”

    A picture can sometimes be worth a thousand words and a 6:48 video:

  2. September 8, 2020 4:25 pm

    Great video. Smart well informed man. Sadly, the issue is no longer one of logic and data. It is one of emotion and politics.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      September 8, 2020 7:01 pm

      Propaganda and politics, Chaam.

  3. Gerry, E permalink
    September 8, 2020 4:39 pm

    Better download and store it quickly before the Youtube Stasi take it down for breaking their rules against educating people.

  4. Gerry, England permalink
    September 8, 2020 4:52 pm

    Great battery car post on Forbes:

    New Electric Cars Perform Wonders In Towns, Rural Roads, But Run Out Of Puff On Highways

    Best bit was realistic motorway range of latest small cars just EIGHTY MILES!!!!!

  5. Frank Everest permalink
    September 8, 2020 5:07 pm

    He’s forgotten about the fact that if the wind blows for only half the time, say, then the windmills will need THREE times the output while filling the storage AND continuing to supply the power. And that’s just for a 50% load factor!
    Also, he’s ignored what I call the “garden rainwaterbutt problem”: it works well when the waterbutt isn’t empty, but if the waterbutt is full, you can’t store any more rainwater. It’s the same problem with electricity. Doh!

    • Joe Public permalink
      September 8, 2020 5:46 pm

      “And that’s just for a 50% load factor!”

      According to July 2020 DUKES

      “In 2019, the overall wind load factor was 32.0 per cent, an increase of 0.6 pp on 2018. When split by type of wind generation, the load factor for onshore wind was 26.6 per cent (up 0.2 pp) while the load factor for offshore wind was 40.4 per cent, up 0.3 pp compared to 2019. These increases came despite lower average wind speeds.”

      My bold.

    • Harry Passfield permalink
      September 8, 2020 7:05 pm

      Frank, that’s pretty much what I tell anyone who tells me that windmills are great when backed up with batteries: I ask them how the batteries were charged – while the customers were taking real-time power – and how long it took. Then I would ask them how long the wind blew,

  6. MrGrimNasty permalink
    September 8, 2020 5:58 pm

    I looked this up again as a result of a comment on ‘Pointless’ that reminded me, that parts of Jakarta have sunk 2.5m in 10 years. The first article is before the BBC turned their climate propaganda level up to ten. The second is just blatant.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27202192

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44636934

    How is a few mm of sea level rise a year as a result of climate change an issue in Jakarta or other rapidly sinking places? Especially in the second article notice how the BBC weaves the real reasons into the largely irrelevant climate change/rising sea/melting ice narrative. Deliberate obfuscation/deception and propaganda.

    “Doublethink is a process of indoctrination whereby the subject is expected to accept as true that which is clearly false, or to simultaneously accept two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in contravention to one’s own memories or sense of reality.”

    • Nancy & John Hultquist permalink
      September 8, 2020 7:07 pm

      Nasty,
      Perhaps if a new Northern Hemisphere glacial advance covered NYC with ice to a depth of 333 feet, or so, then the rapid sinking of Jakarta, Bangladesh’s mangrove coast, and the Mississippi Delta would not be an issue. As the ocean surface drops to a level not seen in 10,000 years all those places will become good living spaces for the new migrants.
      Send money and I will explain how “easy peasy” to make this happen.

      • AZ1971 permalink
        September 9, 2020 1:13 am

        John,

        Please accept my application to be a consultant for said educational programme. I could use a fair bit of that expense report to line my own pocket, the way other green tech programmes do for their investors.

        Regards,
        AZ1971

        😉

  7. Douglas Brodie permalink
    September 8, 2020 6:31 pm

    It’s frightening that greens activists and politicians can be so obtuse as to deny the engineering reality which Paul spells out daily and this video explains so clearly. The other day Nicola Sturgeon talked about her government’s plans “to end Scotland’s contribution to climate change for good”. Cretins like her get their kicks from imposing their misguided ideology on the rest of us with no regard to collateral damage, just like her unscientific prolonging of lockdown here in Scotland to try to “eliminate” Covid. I fear it will take a total national blackout before they are forced to backtrack on their obsession.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      September 9, 2020 10:06 am

      We live in an age where they will only learn by experience so the nation will have to suffer blackouts before they do. The worry is that even faced with a problem of their own making they don’t see that they caused it. The current consultation on our future waste management policy ignores that it is the Landfill Tax and the drive to recycle having failed to ensure that there is the infrastructure to do so or any end market for recycled material that has caused the flytipping epidemic. Organised crime is now involved in flytipping as it is easy money with low risk. And it is not just here that the EU’s ill-thought policy is not working – a French mayor was murdered for taking on the flytippers.

  8. Harry Passfield permalink
    September 8, 2020 7:30 pm

    When I watched this vid I thought how powerful was the message from it, and then:- if only the subject of the vid could deliver such power. Furthermore, I cannot see how ANY green conservationist worth his/her/hx (!) salt could look at the pictures of those monstrosities without wanting to get out there and pull them down. This should be filed under Green Porn (which would probably mean that young children shouldn’t watch it, when they are just the people who SHOULD see it!). I wonder why the Dutch aren’t out there demonstrating..

    • MrGrimNasty permalink
      September 8, 2020 9:11 pm

      Isn’t it strange how the eco-fruits find the sight of a fracking pad the size of a National Trust car park offensive, but the acres of industrialized countryside necessary to do the same job with turbines and/or solar PV, beautiful.

  9. MrGrimNasty permalink
    September 8, 2020 9:47 pm

    Much of the advocacy ‘science’ published as regards traffic pollution ‘killing’ people has focused on the dangers of particulate matter. Well that’s a dead duck now in the UK – dramatic car use decline from covid made no difference.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-8710499/Decline-vehicle-journeys-lockdown-did-NOT-reduce-emissions-toxic-particles.html

    They are still saying NO2 was down, but they are non-specific by how much (I can’t read the detailed paper). They also appear to be comparing to previous years rather than the period immediately before the traffic almost vanished – it is apparent NO2 levels spiked and dropped before the traffic decreased for whatever reason (meteorological probably).

    https://oem.bmj.com/content/early/2020/09/06/oemed-2020-106659

    Although there is some connection between traffic and NO2 levels, private motor vehicles are clearly not the primary sources – the level from roadside monitors in most congested busy areas simply did not respond with a significant correlation to the dramatic fall (23rd March) and resurgence of traffic. Of late NO2 levels have gone up a notch but that is almost certainly due to buses etc. getting back to normal service levels.

  10. I_am_not_a_robot permalink
    September 8, 2020 10:46 pm

    About 25% of the energy wind turbines produced is used up making replacement wind turbines and necessary storage:

    Solar panels in Germany have been found to be an energy sink:
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421516301379

  11. September 9, 2020 12:39 am

    Reblogged this on Climatism and commented:
    “The impossibility of windmills”. Nuff said.

  12. A Man of No Rank permalink
    September 9, 2020 12:50 pm

    And still the windmill video mentions the Green obsession with Hydrogen. The associated problems have long been listed on this forum but it is the production of a serious Greenhouse Gas i.e. Water Vapour which disturbs me. Destroy our society to remove one GG only to replace it with another?

  13. R. Nicholls permalink
    September 9, 2020 2:21 pm

    Unfortunately it’s not clear why each wind turbine needs 1 square km. A square km is not 1000m squared!

  14. Lez permalink
    September 9, 2020 7:42 pm

    I recall seeing an article some time ago, identifying how long it would take for your average wind turbine to break even, ie. how many years it would have to operate to compensate for the amount of CO2 produced in its construction, installation and maintenance.
    If anyone can provide a link to this article, I’d be most grateful.

  15. Factchecker1964 permalink
    September 10, 2020 6:32 pm

    SNIP

    [Any comments by “Factcheckers” are spammed by default, as they are more often than not wrong]

  16. John Wainwright permalink
    September 14, 2020 9:07 am

    And Netherlands population is only 25% of that of UK, so we’d have the same problems four times over!

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