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Voters will not pay extra to achieve Boris’s Net Zero targets – POLL

May 3, 2022

By Paul Homewood

 

While polls show overwhelming support for Net Zero, it appears that very few actually want to pay for it!

 

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The poll for Express.co.uk has shown that 53 percent will only support ending traditional gas boilers if they do not need to pay more for the alternative. Another 14 percent oppose the ban altogether while a mere 28 percent support it whatever the cost.

The results come amid fears carbon neutral heat pumps for houses will cost between £15,000 and £22,000 to install, crippling people in the cost of living crisis.

Under current plans, new homes will not be allowed gas central heating from 2025 and will have to use heat pumps or other alternatives.

From 2035, the Government plans to ban all new gas boilers altogether meaning that any replacement from then will have to be environmentally friendly.

Along with electric cars, which currently cost significantly more than petrol and diesel vehicles, there is a significant concern that people will be unable to afford the so called Green alternatives.

The findings of the poll have boosted calls for a referendum on Boris Johnson’s Net Zero plans which he agreed at the COP26 summit in Glasgow and at G7 meeting in Cornwall both last year.

Reform Party leader Richard Tice, who has led demands for a referendum on the Net Zero by 2050 goal, said: “There is no prospect of alternatives to gas boilers being cost neutral or actually costing less.

“That means this poll confirms that around seven in 10 people oppose these plans and only just over one in four support them.”

He went on: “It shows that Boris Johnson and the Government are completely out of touch with the views and concerns on this issue with ordinary people across Britain.

“With the cost of living crisis people are really despairing on how they can afford to pay the bills and this government is just adding to them with these green measures.

“It is all unnecessary and totally irresponsible.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1603296/Boris-Johnson-news-voters-poll-net-zero-targets-gas-boilers?mc_cid=008224116f&mc_eid=4961da7cb1

30 Comments
  1. Teddy Lee permalink
    May 3, 2022 3:32 pm

    Let the 28% lead by example.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 4, 2022 9:07 am

      Much of the 28% believe either there won’t be much cost or somebody else will pay.

  2. Roland Smith permalink
    May 3, 2022 3:34 pm

    The fact is, whether we like it or not, we’re already paying dearly for the Net Zero scam.

  3. May 3, 2022 3:40 pm

    carbon neutral heat pumps

    ‘Carbon neutrality’ is an irrelevant nonsense. Are they water vapour neutral as well?

  4. TrevorC permalink
    May 3, 2022 3:44 pm

    As a pensioner living on just a little more than the state pension, the idea that I could possibly spend £20,000 installing a heat pump is pure fantasy. But none of the elite in government could possibly comprehend my situation. Boris probably spends that much on a holiday.

    • catweazle666 permalink
      May 3, 2022 5:08 pm

      “Boris probably spends that much on a holiday.”
      I doubt it, his last one was paid for by Zac Goldsmith.
      But his wife spent more than that on wallpaper!

    • The Informed Consumer permalink
      May 3, 2022 7:03 pm

      We installed a new gas boiler a couple of years ago. I’m seriously considering buying another identical one and storing it for when this one expires.

    • Adam Gallon permalink
      May 4, 2022 6:28 am

      Just ride around all day on a nice, warm bus & carry on voting for the LibLabCons party.

  5. Philip Butterfield permalink
    May 3, 2022 4:21 pm

    A poll means nothing. Consumers are stiched up big style and no longer have any choice in the matter.

  6. GeoffB permalink
    May 3, 2022 4:22 pm

    I worry for the 28% that find the cost irrelevant. Rich and stupid.

    • Adam Gallon permalink
      May 4, 2022 6:30 am

      Alternatively, they’ve bought into the “Save the Planet” message.

      • May 4, 2022 8:34 am

        Most are saying what they imagine makes them sound virtuous to the pollster

      • catweazle666 permalink
        May 4, 2022 4:41 pm

        Stupid either way.

  7. Stephen Lord permalink
    May 3, 2022 4:33 pm

    The Ukrainian war has revealed the absolute failure of the green agenda.

  8. Harry Passfield permalink
    May 3, 2022 4:40 pm

    If new-home owners aren’t going to be on the gas grid I wonder if there will be a surge in large Calor gas bottles – allowing gas boilers to function?

  9. jimlemaistre permalink
    May 3, 2022 5:30 pm

    I wish that every politician and every bureaucrat and every media personality would read these ‘Facts’ and ‘get a grip’ on this whole ‘Net Zero’ fraud . . . the whole Clean Green agenda is fairy tales on STEROIDS !

    https://www.academia.edu/76965285/Clean_Green_Energy_and_Net_Zero_Fairy_Tales_on_Steroids

    • Thomas Carr permalink
      May 3, 2022 5:56 pm

      Quite right Jim. Strange that the public should be unaware of the inflated prices paid to sustain the racket that is renewables which you could regard as the halfway house to net zero. One must conclude that the public and our MPs have never understood where their sleep walking has taken them.

      • Broadlands permalink
        May 3, 2022 6:15 pm

        Most of the public (and probably all of the politicians?) do not really understand what Net-Zero actually means. Negative emissions! Taking out of the atmosphere as least as much as was put in…carbon neutrality.
        If they understood what that would entail, how long it would take and what it would cost this scam would have never taken off.

      • Adam Gallon permalink
        May 3, 2022 6:38 pm

        The public’s been told that wind & solar are cheap, after all, their CfD bids have been cheaper than gas!

  10. David Delaney permalink
    May 3, 2022 6:40 pm

    How long will it take before everyone realises that the so called climate crisis is a delusion based on junk science? By arbitrarily choosing an ECS of 1.5 and above when it should be 0.8 or lower demonstrates it is a politically motivated choice. Anyway it is likely C02 has already reached saturation and The Pause will continue on its current path so we can all enjoy the increased plant growth with no fear of catastrophic global warming.
    Regards

    DaveD.

  11. robertliddell1 permalink
    May 3, 2022 7:32 pm

    Amazing that 28% are stupid enough to support net zero whatever the cost.

  12. daveR permalink
    May 3, 2022 7:54 pm

    Off-topic and for a bit of humour, this vid from 2013

    ‘Ex-Navy Nuclear Engineer Trevor Jackson has developed a highly energy dense aluminium fuel cell. Why will the government not support bringing it to market?

    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/aluminium-fuel-cell-why-government-blocking-it

    • May 4, 2022 8:35 am

      If it worked you’d think private investors would be hammering at his door

    • catweazle666 permalink
      May 4, 2022 6:15 pm

      Because the energy to mine the bauxite ore and refine the aluminium from it would considerably exceed the energy acquired from the battery?

  13. Coeur de Lion permalink
    May 3, 2022 10:15 pm

    Net Zero will fail on cost first, then on futility. Our problem is the percentage of the population that are deluded, thinking that NZ is a Good Thing. Of course they won’t pay for it.

  14. Bob Webster permalink
    May 3, 2022 11:39 pm

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  15. May 4, 2022 3:38 am

    ‘Why will the government not support bringing it to market?’

    Probably because aluminium is ‘bottled electricity’. The efficiency losses from electricity to aluminium and back again would be enormous but more importantly the electricity supply to the aluminium pot lines needs to consistent and RELIABLE. Solidified pot lines following a power interruption are not an option.

  16. Up2snuff permalink
    May 4, 2022 11:53 am

    PH: ” Reform Party leader Richard Tice, who has led demands for a referendum on the Net Zero by 2050 goal, said: “There is no prospect of alternatives to gas boilers being cost neutral or actually costing less.” ”

    Quite correct and no-one – especially in Government or the Civil Service has considered the waste mountain that will be created of redundant gas boilers that may contain hazardous substances.

  17. Realist permalink
    May 10, 2022 6:46 am

    More likely the exact opposite if they actually asked ordinary people and businesses instead of only alarmists and other fanatics who hate everybody else.

    >>overwhelming support for Net Zero

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