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EV Illusions

May 10, 2023

By Paul Homewood

 

 

No one can really say whether widespread adoption of EVs will cut carbon emissions.


A dozen states have joined California and many countries in passing legislation to ban the sale of conventional cars and push everyone into electric vehicles (EVs), many within the decade. Similarly, in a feat of regulatory legerdemain, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has proposed emissions rules that would effectively require automakers to sell mostly EVs. And of course, the ill-named Inflation Reduction Act, a.k.a. the Green New Deal, gushes subsidies across the EV ecosystem.
The rush to subsidize and mandate EVs is animated by a fatal conceit: the assumption that they will radically reduce CO2 emissions. That assumption is embedded orthodoxy not just among green pundits and administrators of the regulatory state but also among EV critics, who take issue with a forced transition mainly on grounds of lost freedoms, costs, and market distortions.
But the truth is, because of the nature of uncertainties in global industrial ecosystems, no one really knows how much widespread adoption of EVs could reduce emissions, or whether they might even increase them. (And no, this has nothing to do with the truth / joke that Teslas are coal-fired when fueled at night in many places.) While grid realities will indeed matter more than most realize, the relevant and surprising emissions wildcard comes from the gargantuan, energy-hungry processes needed to make EV batteries. This is one of those technical issues that tends to attract slogans, simplifications, and illusions of accuracy; a better understanding requires some patience.
EV emissions realities start with physics. To match the energy stored in one pound of oil requires 15 pounds of lithium battery, which in turn entails digging up about 7,000 pounds of rock and dirt to get the minerals needed—lithium, graphite, copper, nickel, aluminum, zinc, neodymium, manganese, and so on. Thus, fabricating a typical, single half-ton EV battery requires mining and processing about 250 tons of materials. (These figures hold roughly true for all lithium chemistries.) For the carbon-counters tracking such things, the global mining and minerals sector uses 40 percent of all industrial energy—dominated by oil, coal, and natural gas—and that’s before we take into consideration the massive expansion that would be required to supply all the battery factories planned for widespread EV adoption.
The inherent uncertainties about calculating real-world EV emissions arise from myriad “known unknowns” about mining and refining activities. Those all happen elsewhere, upstream, before assembly at a battery or EV factory—that is, before the first mile driven on a grid-supplied kilowatt-hour. Of course, a conventional car also has upstream emissions, though these derive mainly from steel and iron, which account for
85 percent of its weight. For conventional cars, those upstream emissions are a minor factor; burning gasoline dominates the CO2 footprint. But the need for far more materials, and different types, dominates an EV’s total footprint. Production of those metals, such as copper, nickel, and aluminum, uses on average three to ten times more energy per pound than does steel production. All the other EV minerals are similarly energy-intense.
The International Energy Agency (IEA) flagged these realities in a 2021 report. While that report focused on the inadequacy of the supplies of “energy minerals” (something that has since, finally, become widely known), the researchers noted that upstream CO2 emissions from fabricating an EV can “vary considerably across companies and regions.” Indeed. Changing the source of copper or nickel, for example, can lead to doubling or more than tripling those metals’ emissions intensities, depending on a facility’s age, process types, and locations. Building an EV requires several hundred more pounds of copper than building an internal-combustion car.
Assumptions about aluminum matter too, because EVs also typically require several hundred pounds more of that material, and two-thirds of global aluminum production comes from coal-fired grids in China, Russia, and India. (The U.S. produces just
2 percent.) In general, refineries in China, which account for 50 percent to 80 percent of global “energy minerals” supply, have emissions 1.5 times greater than those in the European Union or U.S.
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review of dozens of studies of upstream emissions revealed that the bottom-line estimates of EV lifecycle emissions varied by fivefold. It gets worse. That same review found that, across those studies, the median size of the battery assumed for the analyses was 30 kilowatt-hours. But the overwhelming majority of U.S. EVs bought last year sported batteries two to three times bigger. Tripling battery size triples the upstream emissions.
None of these variabilities appears in government forecasts for “zero emissions” cars. In fact, the range of upstream emissions is so wide that it renders meaningless any use of an average number to calculate an EV’s overall carbon footprint. But that’s what analysts do, whether at the IEA or EPA.

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40 Comments
  1. In The Real World permalink
    May 10, 2023 12:37 pm

    The whole point of all of the net zero fraud is to destroy the economy of western nations .https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism/

    During the Covid lockdown , with about 80% reduction in traffic across the world , the total levels of CO2 in the atmosphere did not change .

    And in the UK , total Co2 emissions from vehicles make up just 0.00001% of the atmosphere ,[ or 1 in 50 million parts .]

    So all of the propaganda for EVs has no effect other than to take massive amounts of money from everybody .

    • lordelate permalink
      May 10, 2023 9:39 pm

      I concur.

  2. May 10, 2023 12:47 pm

    They don’t care about emissions really. Its about control and money.

    • May 10, 2023 12:54 pm

      They know that “we” don’t care about emissions, this can be seen in the “smart” meter ads, which are now about monitoring costs and reducing imports.

    • chriskshaw permalink
      May 10, 2023 2:50 pm

      Today’s Climate Discussion Nexus newsletter (from Canada) clearly outlined the case that it is not CO2. It is a combination of transfer of wealth and white privileged guilt (we must discontinue pillaging the finite resources Gaia has so kindly provided and reallocate said resources to all the world’s poor)… or similar. This is eco-Marxist philosophy that follows James lindsay’s European Parliament speech definition and aligns with cov19 and QE responses from the West’s governments.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 11, 2023 8:53 am

      For some yes but for others it is about irrational hatred of things like oil and pesticides and for others an absurd and childish hatred of capitalism and free markets that belongs (if it belongs anywhere) at the start of the Industrial Revolution.

  3. Bruce Schlink permalink
    May 10, 2023 12:57 pm

    Although mining is a big deal when it comes to making EV’s the long charging times are often overlooked carpared to the refueling times for gasoline vehicles.

    • Realist permalink
      May 10, 2023 2:30 pm

      They also overlook that those recharges for EVs have to be done more often than refilling a proper car with diesel or petrol.
      They also overlook that the range of EVs today is still less than it was for petrol (let alone diesel) vehicles of the 1960s

      >>long charging times are often overlooked

  4. Sean Galbally permalink
    May 10, 2023 1:05 pm

    It doesn’t matter. There is no climate crisis and the insignificant amount of man made carbon dioxide has no effect on the climate. Man cannot change the climate. This is scientifically provable unlike the alarmist statements.

    • lordelate permalink
      May 10, 2023 9:40 pm

      Correct.

    • Caro permalink
      May 12, 2023 10:59 am

      Exactly. I despair at the number of reasonably intelligent people I know that are falling for this nonsense. I have started asking friends if they know how much carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere and how much of that is man made and they haven’t a clue.

  5. May 10, 2023 1:27 pm

    China ships in a lot of its battery minerals from south America (lithium) and Africa (cobalt), so add in transport ’emissions’.

    Lithium mining, as even the BBC admits, has issues…

    Hard rock mining – where the mineral is extracted from open pit mines and then roasted using fossil fuels – leaves scars in the landscape, requires a large amount of water and releases 15 tonnes of CO2 for every tonne of lithium, according to an analysis

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20201124-how-geothermal-lithium-could-revolutionise-green-energy

    • Graeme No.3 permalink
      May 10, 2023 10:52 pm

      Ah! But Chile is nationalising its lithium mining and wants the lithium to be processed in the country, meaning more jobs (and more electricity).
      I haven’t good an up-to-date figures but “As of August 2020 Chile the National Electric System hydropower represented around 26.7% of its installed capacity, biomass 1.8%, wind power 8.8%, solar 12.1%, geothermal 0.2%, natural gas 18.9%, coal 20.3%, and petroleum-based capacity 11.3%
      Chile began its first Liquified natural gas terminal and re-gasification plant near the capital city of Santiago to secure supply for its existing and upcoming gas-fired thermal plants. In addition, it had engaged in the construction of several new hydropower and coal-fired thermal plants.”
      It might mean less emissions than shipping it to China where they have large plants (coal fired mainly) feeding their battery production.

    • Matt Dalby permalink
      May 11, 2023 1:58 am

      A lot of the lithium produced in South America comes from salt deposits in arid parts of the Andes and involves the use of huge amounts of water to dissolve the lithium compounds and bring them to the surface rather than hard rock mining. This has led to a lowering of the water table in many places meaning that indigenous people’s traditional irrigation systems can no longer provide enough water and they’re pushed into poverty and forced to migrate to urban slums. This is currently more of a problem in Bolivia than Chile, but is bound to spread along with lithium extraction.

  6. Realist permalink
    May 10, 2023 1:31 pm

    But Mother Nature will do whatever she wants irrespective of politicians wrecking economies and making life difficult and expensive for ordinary people.
    Politicians are obsessed with “emissions” that are only just about even measurable.
    Younger politicians have been brainwashed by the so-called education system, but older politicians seem to have forgotten everything about actual science and recorded history

  7. dearieme permalink
    May 10, 2023 1:42 pm

    It’s past time that our rulers were sobered up by our abbreviating some of them. There’s a suitable tool to hand.
    https://www.nms.ac.uk/explore-our-collections/stories/scottish-history-and-archaeology/the-maiden/

  8. CheshireRed permalink
    May 10, 2023 1:43 pm

    I can’t help but expect EV’s will wreck western automotive superiority off the map.
    BMW M power, Porsche’s 911 flat six and Mercedes’ AMG series engines are all world-renowned.
    For many buyers that’s what tips the balance for those makes, yet the west is about to transfer huge battery and motor tech advantages to China.
    We’re not even protecting those world-leading engines by allowing limited production runs.
    BMW have already moved their Mini assembly plant from Swindon to China; I see no other outcome than our other car-makers will move en-masse.
    The only possible obstacle would be EU-style protectionism (eg battery country of origin) but in the long-term that seldom ends well either.

  9. CheshireRed permalink
    May 10, 2023 1:47 pm

    There’s also the small matter of national transport security.

    Currently we have diesel, petrol, EV, hybrid and LNG, with hydrogen knocking at the door.

    Do we really want to replace all those energy sources with just one; electric?

    We’d be just one big system failure, super-hack or terror attack from possibly our entire transport system grinding to a stop.

    I don’t see that as a desirable position to put ourselves in.

  10. Broadlands permalink
    May 10, 2023 2:15 pm

    Reducing CO2 emissions takes no CO2 out of what has already been added to the atmosphere. So, it doesn’t matter to this global warming hysteria. It does matter that any reductions will make it harder to make and complete the transition to renewables and all-electric transportation simply because conventional vehicles are doing all of the work. They run on gasolines and the biofuels that use gasolines. Net-zero emission strategies need those fuels.

  11. liardetg permalink
    May 10, 2023 2:35 pm

    It will never happen

    • chriskshaw permalink
      May 10, 2023 2:54 pm

      I venture that it can never happen

    • Realist permalink
      May 10, 2023 4:48 pm

      Wishful thinking. What person (even if EVs were affordable) is going to buy a LESS practical vehicle?

      >>widespread adoption of EVs

  12. May 10, 2023 3:31 pm

    In related news, a ‘Mr Brian Leyland, MSc, DistFEngNZ, FIMechE, FIEE(rtd) is a power systems engineer with more than 60 years experience on projects around the world,’ has written an excoriating piece, in todays Telegraph, on why ” Wind and solar are, in fact, completely pointless.”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/10/wind-solar-renewables-pointless-waste/

  13. May 10, 2023 9:20 pm

    Because they don’t pay fuel tax EV drivers are freeloading on the road system at our expense. Charge them £1500 per year tax and they don’t look so attractive

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      May 11, 2023 8:59 am

      If you think fuel tax and road tax gets spent on roads! They raise far more tax than the roads budget. EV drivers get subsidies to buy their cars and then their overall rather burdenis significantly reduced. The wealthy are being wealthier by literally taking money from the less wealthy and giving it to them.

      • Realist permalink
        May 11, 2023 9:36 am

        It is an absolute disgrace that the revenue from the extortionate taxes on petrol and diesel (look at the tax element of the actual price at the pump) and road tax (conveniently renamed to vehicle excise duty) gets spent anywhere other than on maintaining the roads and building the still missing ones.

        >>If you think fuel tax and road tax gets spent on roads

  14. MrGrimNasty permalink
    May 10, 2023 9:20 pm

    Another EV fire, firefighting policy is let it burn.

  15. Ian PRSY permalink
    May 10, 2023 10:59 pm

    For the few who haven’t seen it, some classic videoed examples of the stupidity of trying to convert from fossil fuels;

    A Heavy Dose of Reality for Electric-Truck Mandates

    • Douglas Dragonfly permalink
      May 11, 2023 2:59 am

      What more evidence is required ? Electric trucks cannot presently take over from diesel power. So maybe the agenda is to actually clip everyone’s wings ? By removing wet fuel powered vehicles people will have to live and work on their doorstep.

      • Phoenix44 permalink
        May 11, 2023 9:00 am

        And somehow live within 15 minutes of fields producing everything we need? These lunatics have no understanding of the complexity of our economy because it is made to look so simple.

  16. cookers52 permalink
    May 11, 2023 6:38 am

    My Toyota Corolla TS self charging hybrid works just fine, the smoothest and most efficient car I have ever driven.
    My petrol head friends all are amazed when they drive it as the car speed and acceleration is not related to engine revs.
    Range with a full tank of petrol is over 600 miles.
    Such things will have to be banned.

    • May 11, 2023 11:31 am

      Cookers52,

      my sceptical and cynical mind tells me that the reason hybrids are to be banned is that they cannot be controlled via the electricity smart meter rationing of what electricity there is available?

      • Realist permalink
        May 11, 2023 1:50 pm

        More sensible than having to use charging points. But even hybrids are automatics and not manual transmissions.
        There must be some loss in converting petrol/diesel to electricity rather than using it directly.
        >>self charging hybrid

  17. dave permalink
    May 11, 2023 8:48 am

    OTT, but still relevant to the question of our future.

    Trump is showing clear, early signs of dementia. ‘Sniffer’ Biden, of course, is in the middle stage of dementia.

    So, the choices to be ‘the leader of the Western World,’ until the end of this decade, likely will be two geriatric, demented, sex-pests! And the election will be carried out with due solemnity and gravity, for all the world as if two mighty statesmen are presenting their compelling visions for the wise American voter to ponder.

  18. Phoenix44 permalink
    May 11, 2023 9:05 am

    Since the electricity in many countries comes from fossil fuels and will continue to do so, EVs are fossil fuelled anyway.

    • Mikehig permalink
      May 11, 2023 10:55 am

      True, especially when comparing EV to ICE when it’s the source of incremental power that should be used. That will be fossil fuels in almost every country bar a few like Norway and France.

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