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Storm Debi? – A Strong Breeze!

November 14, 2023
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By Paul Homewood

 

Yet again we find that a normal autumn storm has been blown out of all proportion:

 

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/nov/13/power-cuts-and-flooding-as-storm-debi-brings-70mph-winds-to-uk-and-ireland

According to this Guardian article, for instance, “Storm Debi has brought gusts of more than 70mph to parts of the UK”. Meanwhile the “Independent” talks of streets turning to rivers and dangerous winds.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/storm-debi-amber-warning-uk-winds-b2446345.html

And we even have the Met Office issuing a yellow warning for thunderstorms!

 

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Rainfall certainly was not exceptional, with the highest daily total of 53mm high up on Shap.

As for winds, the only places to see 70 mph gusts were the usual mix of highly exposed sites on cliff tops and so on:

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Aberdaron is an interesting case in point. The weather station there is at an altitude of 86m just a couple of hundred of yards away from the cliffs.

It sits at the tip of the Llyn Peninsula, which itself is a notoriously windy area, stuck out into the Irish Sea.

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There is however a private weather station only about three miles way, near Capel Carmel:

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As the map shows, it is not as close to the cliff tops, and crucially it sits at 57m above sea level. Here, the maximum gust yesterday was 44.1 mph, and the highest average speed was 38.7 mph:

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http://aberdaronweather.co.uk/yesterday.htm

Away from the Llyn and in lower lying areas, average winds in North Wales peaked at around 30 mph, a Strong Breeze according to Beaufort. This would indicate gusts up to around 40 mph:

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https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/@2639409/historic

Similar numbers were recorded at Denbigh and Hawarden.

Coincidentally we had similar winds here in Sheffield around the time I took the dog round our dam. Somehow we got home in one piece!

The many headlines saying that Britain was hit with 70 mph winds are grossly misleading. Hit with 40 mph winds might have been closer to the truth.

But the media are only taking their cue from the Met Office who refuse to report anything other than these highly unrepresentative sites.

We know of course why they do it – to crank up climate alarm. They even had the nerve to use the wind measurements on the Needles in their monthly extremes last month:

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31 Comments
  1. gezza1298 permalink
    November 14, 2023 5:55 pm

    GB News had a weatherman in the Yorkshire Dales who did at least stay away from the climate change bollocks and referred to the storms being blown in by the jetstream and coming over a warm sea. But yet he claimed a top wind gust of 94mph on the peak above him in Wensleydale. No mention of why the jeststream has been stuck on us but the forecast – he is MetOrifice so iffy – is for it to move and bring us northerlies.

  2. glen cullen permalink
    November 14, 2023 6:07 pm

    Once again I was warned that I might die …then I realised it was just normal winter weather

  3. Mark Hodgson permalink
    November 14, 2023 6:17 pm

    The Met Office and the BBC both regularly refer to gusts as wind, which is borderline dishonest, so far as I am concerned. Sustained wind speeds are what they should be talking about. If they are referring to gusts for a few seconds, they should make that clear. But often they don’t.

    • Andrew Harding permalink
      November 14, 2023 8:10 pm

      “If they are referring to gusts for a few seconds, they should make that clear. But often they don’t.”

      Because if they did, the false message that Earths’ climate is getting warmer would be lost!

      I have mentioned this before, but I think it is worth repeating? We have been bombarded with propaganda for several decades about AGW and ‘Climate Change’ My three children, born in 1987, 1989 and 1995 were terrified; not any longer! Why? Because all the dire predictions made 30-40 years ago have simply not happened!

      In my 68 years I have not seen any evidence whatsoever that there has been any significant change in the Earths’ climate! Thirty years ago we were told that ‘climate refugees’ would be heading towards the N/S Poles because of drought and crop failure. Has this occurred? No it hasn’t, despite an almost 50% increase in atmospheric CO2!

      Now, subjective scientific observations are quite rightly disregarded, however when scientific predictions fail to materialise, the ‘science’ needs to be questioned? Objectivity, over many decades, demonstrably shows that Earths’ climate has not changed by any significant amount! Atmospheric CO2 has a negligible effect on climate is the only possible conclusion!

  4. Yorkschris permalink
    November 14, 2023 6:30 pm

    The Needles Old Battery on the Isle of Wight is the most exposed location you could possibly imagine: high up above the sea, right at the narrowest point of land jutting out into the Solent. Almost as if the location was chosen to give high wind gust readings and not even representative of typical coastal locations.

    • Yorkschris permalink
      November 14, 2023 8:30 pm

      I’ve just looked at the other recorded peak gusts from a number of other official stations closest to The Needles on 29 October. The Met Office reported a gust of 86mph at the Needles Old Battery, yet at other official met stations on the south coast in the adjoining counties we find the following peak gusts that day: Isle of Portland (52mph), Thorney Island (44mph), Bournemouth (35mph) and Southampton Airpor (29mph). It just shows how the Needles old Battery weather station, with a gust of 86mph was just completely unrepresentative, other than the most peculiar, exposed location you could have possibly found.

    • Matthew Dalby permalink
      November 15, 2023 6:42 am

      Weather stations in exposed coastal locations are useful for providing up to date information to maritime users so it makes sense to have a few in known windy spots. Obviously the problem is the Met Office and MSM reporting measurements from these stations in isolation and out of context to try and scare us about climate change.

    • November 15, 2023 7:42 am

      Like using Heathrow as a metric for hot days…

  5. glenartney permalink
    November 14, 2023 6:41 pm

    O/T
    Plans for giant UK solar farm to be built on land equivalent to 40,000 football pitches

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1834559/solar-farm-england-plans#ICID=Android_ExpressNewApp_AppShare

    I make that 26000 hectares enough for 250000 tonnes of winter wheat.

    • Devoncamel permalink
      November 14, 2023 7:08 pm

      The carpeting of southern England’s green and pleasant fields with these ugly panels is gathering pace. Climate policy trumps food security and it’s very concerning at best, delusional at worst. The irony of all this miserable, but not unusual, weather is how it renders solar panels virtually useless.

      • November 14, 2023 7:33 pm

        Yes Devon it really is getting ridiculous. When are protected habitats no longer worth protecting? Whenever they want to plaster it with solar panels and battery packs. Down here in Kent we have a site where they are proposing to build a unit that could wipe out tens of thousands of people. But it’s okay because it’s Green.
        https://www.favershameye.co.uk/post/project-fortress-previously-known-as-cleve-hill
        I have regularly worked at Dungeness B Nuclear power station…that is perfectly safe – this monstrosity between Whitstable and Faversham is biblically dangerous.

    • November 14, 2023 7:25 pm

      The Express is always good for a laugh. ” but could provide the equivalent of 13 nuclear power stations in energy” What sort of goddamn unit is that?
      From a stroll on the downs above Dover I can often make out Gravelines NPP at 5.5GW in just 150Ha of land. The Kashiwazaki-Kariwa NPP is 8GW. How come this colossal area of solar panels at just 20GW peak and likely to generate at just a 10% capacity factor is anywhere near 13 of those.
      They might as well have used Right Whale Testicles as the yard stick cos they’re the biggest load of bollocks in the world.

    • Gamecock permalink
      November 14, 2023 8:14 pm

      ‘Plans for giant UK solar farm to be built on land equivalent to 40,000 football pitches’

      Rumor has it they will only be allowed to use it a few hours a day.

    • Gamecock permalink
      November 14, 2023 8:23 pm

      26000 hectares equates to 28% of Hiroshima.

  6. gezza1298 permalink
    November 14, 2023 7:02 pm

    Looking at TV Choice for next week – and assuming they just use handouts provided by the channels – Channel 4 has two programmes of climate lies next week presented by experts Mary Portas, Kevin McCloud and Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall. The blurb for the first part on Tuesday refers to why the UK is not investing in more onshore windmills, ‘one of the cheapest forms of energy.’ And the second on Wednesday refers to ‘subsidies for oil and gas’. A chance to see 2 hours of your life pass by that you won’t get back.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      November 15, 2023 8:08 am

      A wind turbine us neither cheap nor a “form of energy”. Nor are there subsides for fossil fuels. Where are Ofcom when you need them? But who watches this stuff anyway?

      • gezza1298 permalink
        November 15, 2023 11:26 am

        As I said, I believe TV Choice are just using information provided to them by Channel 4 as to what the programme is about. I lack the calmness to be able to actually spend the 2 hours required to watch the programmes next week to see if the lies are repeated. I wonder what the complaints process is for C4 compared to the BBC.

  7. Mewswithaview permalink
    November 14, 2023 7:14 pm

    Here is a good Tom Nelson interview covering the climate science lies and artificial intelligence topic.

  8. November 14, 2023 7:15 pm

    “the Met Office who refuse to report anything other than these highly unrepresentative sites.” The Met Office are a national disgrace who actively look out for unrepresentative sites for all their “records”.
    I recently pointed out to them that one of their sites had just been surrounded by a solar farm….they claimed it was still acceptable as a Class 1 site. How can you argue with such deliberate deceit?
    Here it is at Chertsey, Abbey Mead Pumping Station
    https://www.bing.com/maps?cp=51.398402~-0.494972&lvl=18.7&style=h
    Here is the full updated list of their sites with (approximate) coordinates.

  9. gezza1298 permalink
    November 14, 2023 7:25 pm

    The Daily Sceptic has Suella’s brilliant letter from the Telegraph taking down Sushi. Hopefully she might be one of the handful of Tory MPs left after the election – a shame she doesn’t follow Andrew Bridgen to Reclaim. Mind you, the people might have a say in May and Sushi goes back to playing with his £millions in the US.

    • Phoenix44 permalink
      November 15, 2023 8:11 am

      About time proper Tory MPs upped and left en masse. There’s probably enough to do away with Sunak’s majority (40 or so) which would stymie him and give their new party real weight.

  10. glenartney permalink
    November 14, 2023 7:29 pm

    The only word for this is bollox

    The “Great Storm” hit southern parts of the United Kingdom in October 1987 creating headlines for the damage it caused but also from the infamous Michael Fish moment.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/features/67417756

    • November 14, 2023 7:54 pm

      No that is way beyond unacceptable – another complaint to go in from me.
      Bare faced lying.

  11. It doesn't add up... permalink
    November 14, 2023 10:05 pm

    Somehow it seems appropriate that the Elmley Moor weather station is right beside the eponymous transmitter that broadcasts the BBC weather.

    https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=62b2009d-bf82-414c-81b2-4a0fa19f44cb&cp=53.612235~-1.668951&lvl=18.5&dir=113.63457&pi=20.517405&style=x&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027

    • November 15, 2023 8:58 am

      I often cycle up to it. It’s about 900ft up, so a bit windy!

  12. November 15, 2023 7:41 am

    Heard on the BBC

    “Storm Debi will bring strong winds and heavy rain”

    How unusual for a storm.

    • November 15, 2023 8:43 am

      Unprecedented…since the storm the week before.

  13. Phoenix44 permalink
    November 15, 2023 8:14 am

    So the UK was battered by dangerous winds but it was only an amber warning? There was no battering and no danger. We are deluged by pure propoganda, with the approval of government abdicate collusion of supposedly independent l, scientific agencies. Totalitarian behaviour.

  14. November 15, 2023 8:31 am

    The Met Office Thunderstorm yellow warning for the south coast was a complete non-event. No thunderstorms and not very much rain either (less than 7mm in Southampton, for example).
    If the Met Office keep crying wolf like this, people will soon stop paying them any attention.

  15. Roy Hartwell permalink
    November 15, 2023 9:19 am

    Rather like the dubious predictions of ‘record high temperatures approaching 90C’ we had at various times during the summer, the trick is that they know that a large proportion of the population will remember the predictions rather than the actual weather and will become the reality. We are being constantly manipulated and too few realise it !!

  16. energywise permalink
    November 15, 2023 10:17 am

    Yes, it was windy – personally, I don’t subscribe to storm names

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