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BBC Explain Climate Change

November 11, 2016
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By Paul Homewood 

 

h/t Stewgreen

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37936740/what-climate-change-deniers-like-donald-trump-believe

 

BBC Newsbeat is the flagship news programme for Radio 1, and its remit is to provide news tailored for a specifically younger audience. In fact, ever since its early days, it has tended to treat its listeners as babies, totally incapable of taking in any serious news for more than a few seconds.

One of its functions is to indoctrinate young listeners into the BBC’s world of climate change, hence today’s attempt to convince them that Donald Trump knows little about the subject.

Unfortunately it seems neither does the BBC!

Their report included this:

 

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https://web.archive.org/web/20161111124317/http://www.loopvanuatu.com/content/what-climate-change-deniers-donald-trump-believe

 

Note the bit about the ozone layer:

 

When humans burn fossil fuels such as coal and oil for transport, heating and industry it produces greenhouse gases which destroy the ozone layer, allowing more rays from the sun into our atmosphere and raising temperatures across the world.

 

Somebody must have spotted this little faux pas, and deleted it, so the piece now looks like this:

 

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/37936740/what-climate-change-deniers-like-donald-trump-believe

 

The BBC have made no mention of the deletion, and the original version is only available now on the Wayback Machine.

How convenient!

 

Perhaps they should send their Newsbeat correspondent to ask Donald Trump for the facts about climate change in future.

31 Comments leave one →
  1. November 11, 2016 6:51 pm

    Reblogged this on Wolsten and commented:
    Stew Green and Paul Homewood catch the BBC Propaganda and Indoctrination Team working overtime again.

  2. November 11, 2016 7:00 pm

    Here I did a side by side before/after screengrab I retrieved from Googles cache this morning

    So BBC admit making basic Climate Science error, in a news post which is intended to show that the BBC know more about Climate Science that Dumb Donald Trump
    I say “admit”, cos they admitted it by making a stealth correction 7 hours after publication
    So they abuse by shouting #Denier, but their hysteria is akin to Don-ialists demonstrating in Portland

    More screen shots etc in our BH discussion here

    BHers point out the R1 News-Botch post contain many more misleading claims

  3. Roy Hartwell permalink
    November 11, 2016 7:06 pm

    ‘Some climate change deniers say the sun should be blamed for global warming’…………So, BBC experts, where do you think the heat is coming from, then !!! It beggars belief they can say that without blushing !!!

  4. SteveB permalink
    November 11, 2016 7:31 pm

    Off topic, but I reckon some Swedes might welcome a little global warming right now.

    http://www.thelocal.se/20161110/stockholm-just-set-a-new-snow-record

    • wert permalink
      November 11, 2016 8:16 pm

      New rotten snow, caused by global warming.

  5. November 11, 2016 7:42 pm

    This week’s Inside Science on Radio 4 is unbelievably bad. Don’t listen to it if you want to retain your sanity. But just in case you want to take the risk and hear the propaganda (Miles Allen for one), here it is:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b081l87w

    • November 11, 2016 8:08 pm

      My notes : They open by talking about Paris Agmt coming in and Marrakech meeting
      Myles Allan doing the fallacy of certainty beyond evidence
      “To stabilise climate we have to make net CO2 to zero……blah blah this is a SIMPLE sum”

      ……………If Fusion comes in, the game is over
      If you think fusion is unrealistic
      then the girl talking about Biomass did a long bit and then said ….”oh it only works if you have CCS” ffs

      Now it’s some vegan who is saying that is a magic solution

      I don’t accept his maths assertions
      plus they av vegan would probably then jump into their big car with 4 kids and say “oh look how green I am”

  6. BLACK PEARL permalink
    November 11, 2016 8:13 pm

    The BBC is unfit for purpose

    • wert permalink
      November 11, 2016 8:18 pm

      Comes without warranty, including but not limited to the implied warranty of fitness to a particular purpose.

  7. HotScot permalink
    November 11, 2016 9:50 pm

    Never mind folks. The Trumpet is as mad as a bag of frogs, but he’s no fool.

    Of all the claims made in his ‘pledge to America’ or whatever it’s called, the environmental agenda seems to me the most achievable and the most profitable short term. And as the guy only has 4 years to make a real difference, in my opinion, the EPA is low hanging, extremely profitable fruit.

    Unlike all his other stated objectives, eliminating the green blob costs nothing. Just by stopping international funds that stimulate the wacky AGW green brigade, he saves billions. No raising funds, no campaigning, no lobbying, no delays etc. He just instantly hands America back a big fat cheque.

    Similarly, with internal funding of anything that mentions climate in its title, he will also save a large fortune. So with a flick of a switch, he’s ahead.

    Switching on coal, oil and gas production is a little more fraught, but not much, as he has oil companies champing at the bit to pay for new projects, so again, no cost.

    And the gains will hit the pockets of Americans in a very short period when their energy bills drop. Businesses will also benefit when fossil fuel production rises rapidly, imported oil and gas are no longer needed and US manufacturing becomes a viable proposition once again.

    Employment goes up the moment oil, gas and fracking increases followed by manufacturing growth.

    So far, America hasn’t spent a brass farthing, in fact, they have made money by not funding the Jolly Green Giant.

    In 4 years time, he can claim to have created employment and got America back to work just as he promised. In the meantime, the more difficult promises to achieve he made will need more time. So a second term is necessary.

    Like many of us, in and out the climate debate, I despised Trump for his public persona. But I was always slightly in awe of him for backing himself and largely funding his own electoral campaign. The guy owes nobody anything, so when a lobbyist or campaigner approaches him, they had better have a damn good case to present. Our own ‘sparkling white’ democracy in the UK can’t avoid the influence of outside commercials donors or unions so Trump is a political enigma, and all the better for it.

    Clinton spent $400M on her campaign, twice Trumps budget and yet she lost. With all the inside information Bill she have, they comprehensively blew it. And $75M of that campaign money was from a single ‘green industrialist’. Guess what favours would have to be returned to him? And they claim the oil industry is corrupt!

    I don’t know if Donald is a good president or not, but then I didn’t know if Obama was good or not but because he was a charming, slim, elegant black guy, a brilliant speaker, and the first black POTUS, I think we all rejoiced; then he fizzled like a damp squib. Even the thinking black US community despise him because he did nothing for them either.

    And I learned a long time ago that the things you hate the most invariably turn out to be the best thing you ever did because your expectations are so low, things can’t get any worse, they can only get better.

    I’m hoping my simplistic philosophy, which hasn’t let me down in 50 years, continues to hold true and that the bumbling buffoon Trump, turns out to be the western world’s (and potentially the planet’s) knight in shining armour.

    If he does nothing more than consign the climate lie to history, he will have succeeded as far as I’m concerned. Will he cause WW3? He’s a businessman, if it happened he would profit from it, like the spiv in Dad’s Army. But the guy knows there is a lot more profit in peace.

    Frankly, I hope the guy makes peace with Putin and start’s trading goods rather than threats.

    • TonyM permalink
      November 12, 2016 2:29 am

      Trump will probably authorize the Keystone pipeline right away as it only takes a stroke of the pen. It will be a great middle finger to the environmentalists (and also Obama). I can’t wait.

    • Ex-expat Colin permalink
      November 12, 2016 7:45 am

      Its a well deserved and heavy slap down for the faux virtuous. Its a builder and I hope the dirty boots are truly powered in. The worry is…Republican support. Its also about sour grapes and he has said that pretty much before. You won’t survive long in business if you are silly/soft. And I don’t think he needed to do this…he’s been talking wayback about some of it as in America being ripped off. Oprah Winfrey show 1988:

      I suppose the blubbering snowflakes need a warning when Trump opens up..like, this man says it as it is..bring your snot wipes/nappies!

      We’ll see.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      November 12, 2016 10:15 am

      Obummer reminded me of the Blair creature – promised a lot but delivered nothing.

  8. November 11, 2016 10:41 pm

    The BBC climate crew make Mickey Mouse look like a genius.

  9. Bloke down the pub permalink
    November 11, 2016 10:52 pm

    So when the alarmists claim that we deny climate science, does that include denying that CO2 destroys the ozone layer?

  10. November 11, 2016 11:07 pm

    Reblogged this on WeatherAction News and commented:
    Patronising Aunty knows best😉

  11. November 11, 2016 11:14 pm

    You’ve just reminded me I bought a bottle of bubbly I was going to open tonight – guess it will have to wait till tomorrow.

  12. Athelstan permalink
    November 12, 2016 12:41 am

    I think very much that, HotScot makes some very pertinent points concerning Mr. Trump and his promised de coupling of the great green scam from not only its egregious association with the previous incompetent – the US presidency and indeed more importantly for, all America.

    Trump ‘get America working’ strategy to gradually phasing out all the green bollox, bureaucracy and loaded taxes policies which are strangling American attempts to compete on a level playing field against the developing…… world economies and not least India and the PRC.

    Donald Trump will also, initiate massive supply side reforms something the British should have done back in 2010 but then the other lot to the red lot were always part of the same problem – Statist.
    Cutting taxes, cheaper fossil fuel bills = cheaper transport cost and paring back red tape, putting money back in people’s pockets and see the USA economy go!

    “Like many of us, in and out the climate debate, I despised Trump for his public persona.”

    I disagree, we live in a very big bad world and no one, certainly not me, is perfect, the world has room for all shapes and sizes.

    I really cannot abide the simplification between Good [Clinton] and evil monster incarnate – Trump. Trump is a family man, does numerous unreported good works for society and particularly Vets charities, he has undoubtedly priapic tendencies but by God it’s better than J. Edgar predilictions and besides married superstar JFK f88ked anything that moved – in a skirt.

    I am a pragmatist, you really should read some history, Donald John Trump is a pussycat by comparison and what about that snake – Bill Clinton – whom Hillary protected and defended, and the rest of their sordid history and cover ups. Crikey! presidents of the past most were no altruistic paragons of virtue and neither should we expect it now – Trump he’s a businessman turned politician……………

    he isn’t trying for the Vatican.

  13. RAH permalink
    November 12, 2016 2:17 am

    The plethora of pure hateful BS and primordial screams of agony from the leftist press in this country is something to behold. They have come completely unhinged! Nothing the BBC would write or broadcast can come close to the pure hate and loathing that I’ve seen expressed in the US press since the election including in the MSM. It really is something to behold and a clear indication of what will be coming when they dry their tears and change their diapers and get down to the serious business of conspiring to undermine Trump in any way, shape, and form they can.

    • TonyM permalink
      November 12, 2016 2:30 am

      They are just warming up. Wait until they really get going. It will be merciless.

      • RAH permalink
        November 12, 2016 3:13 am

        What the dumb asses in the press. don’t seem to realize is that the voters that elected Trump were rejecting the MSM every bit as much as they were rejecting Hillary. They HAD to in order to vote for Trump. Now lets add to the Trump voters those that voted for third party candidates because they too had to reject the MSM to reject either of the two major party candidates. Months ago I said that no matter who wins this election the real loser will be the MSM and that has not changed. That “4th Branch” of the American government lost big time and will not recover because to be quite frank, we get better and more balanced reporting and analysis from the internet than comes over the tube or printed on dead trees.

  14. John F. Hultquist permalink
    November 12, 2016 5:03 am

    It is hard to understand why they are still on the Polar Bear line. They are doing fine. All it took was to stop hunting them with airplanes and snowmobiles. They mostly feed in the spring when there is no lack of ice. The September low ice is of little concern to them.

    https://polarbearscience.com/

    • Gerry, England permalink
      November 12, 2016 10:18 am

      Come on, John, don’t bring scientific fact into the argument. You’ll only upset the BBC. It is an alien concept there.

  15. Gerry, England permalink
    November 12, 2016 10:21 am

    Can you just imagine it if we get a clean sweep next year. Geert Wilders. Marine Le Pen. The end of the Stasi Hausfrau. The BBC will probably switch to just playing solemn music – Morrisey and The Smiths probably – and the Guardian will just publish all black issues. Oh how blissful it would be.

    • wert permalink
      November 12, 2016 8:41 pm

      Yeah they really play with black to make a show. Communists are not happy.

  16. Tim Hammond permalink
    November 12, 2016 10:26 am

    Once again the BBC shows it is the one that denies science.

    I don’t “believe” in anything. I disbelieve the claims made by climate scientists because I think their science is extremely poor and riddled with scientific, statistical and logical errors.

    I don’t have to be in favour of an alternative theory. And thinking that i do is not just bad science but begging the question – there may not be the need for an alternative theory.

    Science is not dialectical.

    • Gerry, England permalink
      November 13, 2016 2:10 pm

      It is quite reasonable not to believe in the myth and not be able to offer an alternative explanation on the grounds of simply not knowing. Mankind’s knowledge is like an inverted pyramid where we started knowing very little but learn more all the time in every sphere. Many of the so-called settled science areas are anything but, based on dodgy research that made it through the much vaunted peer review.

  17. November 12, 2016 10:36 am

    The first resource of which any incoming army wishes to gain control is the state media centre. Once you have that, you can reliably trust that repetition of lies, lies, and more lies will do the job for you.

    Hence the Polar Bear lies about them all being under dreadful duress. (Although don’t they say there is more Ozone by the seaside? ! ) It all helps keep Kate Humble and the excruciatingly self-righteous David Attenborough in very well paid jobs.

    The BBC advises its dimmer audience that the bears hunt “most” of their food in the Arctic. I may ask the BBC where the Polar Bears hunt for the balance of their food – do they head for Florida in the winter perhaps like the Canadians? As we know Polar Bear numbers have not declined, but perhaps the BBC is not good at counting and haven’t included the bears now visiting Disney World.

    Writing to the programme makers doesn’t get you anywhere. I’ve tried it. Writing to the mis-named BBC Trust doesn’t get you anywhere. I’ve tried it. Nothing gets you anywhere, at least not quickly. What happens is that in this new era of alternative media such as this excellent blog the truth slowly leaks out.

    This is because the BBC / WWF / IPCC / Greenpeace fraternity either don’t notice, or are too filled with chutzpah and self-righteousness they don’t care. Trust in hitherto respected institutions like the BBC and the Royal Academy, is steadily eroded.

    This is corrosive for a previously cohesive society, and eventually the populace votes for anyone who is NOT a politician or establishment figure. Berlusconi in Italy, Trump in the USA, Hugo Chavez in Venezuala, Brexit in the UK.

    Our society here is slowly getting its come-uppance. It is being delivered by the BBC, Westminster, and others. But one day, the truth will out, mainstream. We need to be patient and persistent.

  18. November 12, 2016 12:54 pm

    I also am a “climate change denier” as is President-Elect Donald John Trump. He is a very successful worldwide businessman and I have a PhD in Ecosystematics. We both reached the same conclusion which leads me to posit that the whole issue is one of common sense.

    One learned poster referred to President-Elect Trump as: “bumbling buffoon Trump”. British General Edward Braddock, fostered the same arrogant opinion of the Colonial troops, especially the young George Washington, and the American Indians and their method of fighting. He was killed at Great Meadows near Fort Necessity, PA on July 13, 1755 after not listening to anyone or taking the Indians seriously. He was buried under what is now Rte. 40, The National Road (ca. 45 mins. from where I live). His remains were found by roadworkers and now reside beneath a roadside marker.

    It would be wise to take President-Elect Donald John Trump very seriously. You who complain about the BBC apparently obtain your opinions from the very same BBC.

  19. November 12, 2016 1:01 pm

    Always a pleasure and privilege to see the mighty scientific brains of the BBC at work.

  20. Ex-expat Colin permalink
    November 13, 2016 8:41 am

    My son works at BBC Shepherds Bush…he briefed me yesterday about the atmosphere in there. Its as you might suspect…very, very sad. I cannot say too much here, lets say we can be very, very gleeful.

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